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Swedish Voters Keelhaul Pirate Party 299

Billosaur writes "Apparently the 'scurvy dawgs' are still in control. Results from Sunday's Swedish national election were not favorable for the Pirate Party, according to Wired News. According to the article, 'The Pirate Party not only failed to score the 4 percent required for a seat in Sweden's Parliament, but appears to have missed the 1 percent that would have afforded the party state assistance with printing ballots and funding staff in the next election.' However, the party sees this as a learning experience and morale is still good."
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Swedish Voters Keelhaul Pirate Party

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  • by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @11:31AM (#16138024) Journal
    A political party for illegal actions? come on!
    Might I remind you that the founding politicians of America were violating many English laws and guilty of leading revolts against the British Crown ... punishable by death if I'm not mistaken.

    Just because a political party is advocating something currently illegal doesn't mean it's a bad idea to elect them and change that law. Especially if it's a stupid law or is detrimental to the populace.

    Let the people vote.
  • Re:logic explained (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @11:34AM (#16138051)
    Sweden, Switzerland, it's all the same!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @11:55AM (#16138230)
    While almost nobody will agree with the idea and they won't win any election, as long as they are not actually DOING that they should be allowed to voice their opinion that they WANT it to be legal, right? The point is both groups are trying to go about changing the law in the right way. As people here always recommend, if you don't agree with the law try to change it. Vote or run for office
  • by lawpoop ( 604919 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @11:57AM (#16138249) Homepage Journal
    As pointed out in the commentary to earlier slashdot articles, the scandinavian idea of piracy (the high seas kind) goes hand-in-hand with economic liberalism. While the British and Dutch were establishing monoplies on commodities, controlling ports, pursuing embargoes, and charging tariffs, there were captains who traded goods freely with little concern for the laws of foreign governments.

    Of course, this free trade threatened the income of the empires, so they outlawed piracy and charged their own captains to capture ships, sink ships, absorb crews, and confiscate booty of free-traders who ignored tariffs and embargoes. Free-traders chose to arm themselves instead of giving up their livelihood, and the ensuing violent arms race gave us our modern popular perception of pirates today.
  • Re:logic explained (Score:5, Informative)

    by Per Wigren ( 5315 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:09PM (#16138339) Homepage
    so wait - other than women who are beautiful (which is enough), what does sweden have thats cool?

    IKEA, Volvo, Ericsson, MySQL, The Pirate Bay, ABBA and meatballs.
  • by CastrTroy ( 595695 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:12PM (#16138359) Homepage
    It probably falls under the same umbrella as the Marijuana parties [] that exist in certain countries.
  • Exact figures (Score:3, Informative)

    by hweimer ( 709734 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:12PM (#16138368) Homepage
    The Swedish election authority currently lists [] them at 0.64%, with about half of the districts being processed.
  • by MynockGuano ( 164259 ) <hyperactiveChipm ...> on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:33PM (#16138552)
    Bleh. I modded this flamebait on accident. The mod system needs to have an undo button. :/

    And it does, as you so have so aptly demonstrated. >8)

    (posting in a thread that you've moderated causes all of your moderations in the thread to be wiped)
  • by abelsson ( 21706 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:37PM (#16138590) Homepage
    The Pirate party may not reached the Riksdag, but they have already caused ALL parties to reconsider their position on file sharing.
    • The Greens just published a policy document named "Free the files" which is basically a copy of the Pirate partys program.
    • The leaders of the Moderates and the Social Democrates (the two largest parties) have stated that the the much critizied law from last year that outlawed file sharing should be reconsidered.
    • ALL youth leagues of all parties are pro-filesharing.
    In the school elections the party got 4.5% of the votes, even without preprinted ballots. In short, the pirate party has shown that a large portion of the youth are interested in these issues, and no party can afford to alienate entire generations. So while it didn't get into parliment, the pirates did already influency policy and debate- much more than any of the other small parties.
  • Re:oh well, (Score:3, Informative)

    by hpa ( 7948 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @12:59PM (#16138788) Homepage
    As a side note I would say that it is quite shocking that they have voted out the social democratic party, especially when their conventional wisdom says that the two track tax burden (high personal tax but low corporate tax) was working and the welfare state was doing them the world of good.

    It's worth noting that the Centre-Right coalition (for the first time ever campaigning together as a single ticket under the name Alliance for Sweden) did very much announce that they are not going to lower taxes or radically reform the tax system, which is nowadays fairly simple, although the rates are high. They have promised to radically lower or abolish real estate property taxes, however.

    What they have announced is to try to get more people into work, using both stick and carrot. Sweden has a highly educated population (it's university system is world class), but due to a hyper-regulated employment market, it's virtually impossible for young people to get jobs, even with advanced university degrees. Thus, a liberalization of the employment market is expected. The trade unions, which are extremely strong in Sweden (and have extremely close ties with the Social Democratic Party), have predictably been overreacting against this, to the point that they have distributed cartoons portraying the Alliance as murders and necrophiles.
  • by teh_chrizzle ( 963897 ) <> on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @02:21PM (#16139416) Homepage
    1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
  • by Alef ( 605149 ) on Tuesday September 19, 2006 @02:41PM (#16139570)
    The Social Democrats just got ousted from power by a moderate coallition that is seeking to introduce some market reforms into Sweden. Gee, you think that might have something to do with a fledgling party whose property rights philosophy is probably left of the Social Democrats not getting any attention?

    I wouldn't categorize the Pirate Party as a left wing party. For instance, the founder Rickard Falkvinge [] is a former member of Moderate Youth League [] the youth organization of the Swedish Moderate Party (conservative).

    Besides, the election results had more to do with people wanting new faces in politics (especially the prime minister), and an incredibly lacking campaign by the Social Democrats, basically just repeating how "things are great", neglecting every concern expressed by the people and saying nothing about what they want to do in the future. At the same time, the moderates described themselves as "the new working class party" (calling themselves "the New Moderate Party") and lauded the welfare state. So people switched.

The relative importance of files depends on their cost in terms of the human effort needed to regenerate them. -- T.A. Dolotta