Wii to Launch Nov. 19th for $250 495
PygmySurfer writes "According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Nintendo is going to announce today that the Wii will go on sale on November 19th in North and South America, at a cost of $250. It will come bundled with Wii Sports and channels for such things as viewing photos, as well as news and weather. Finally, Wii will also make it possible to browse the web on your television. Nintendo will also announce that 25-30 games will be published this year, as well as about 30 classic games available on the virtual console, costing about $5-10."
From IGN (Score:5, Informative)
Re:From IGN (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/14/nintendo-japan-
http://www.famitsu.com/blog/express/ [famitsu.com]
http://gemaga.sbcr.jp/ [gemaga.sbcr.jp]
http://www.irwebcasting.com/060914/01/ [irwebcasting.com]
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6157572.html?tag=bre
http://gonintendo.com/?p=5583 [gonintendo.com]
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Further Coverage (Score:2)
not sure i believe the article quite yet (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll believe it when they Iwata announces it.
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Wahoh! (Score:3, Insightful)
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To me the biggest news is that the Virtual Console will be available at launch, with 60 titles by 2
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Tom Tucker: "Our top story tonight, more video game news just two days after riots destroyed many gaming storefronts from the unexpectedly horrible launch of the Playstation 3. Diane has more, Diane?"
Diane Simmons: "Thanks Tom. Wii. Sure it sounds like a penis, but what else is it? It's the new Nintendo console and it's causing quite a stir. We go live to Asian reporter Trisha Takinawa for a report"
Trisha Takinawa: "Thank you Diane. Nintendo released the strangely-named console today to rave reviews. As you can see here, waving around this long slender shaft causes action to occur on-screen. It's quite a reversal from the usual manner of things. Retailers report they have plenty of Wii to go around, and that it's something people just can't wait to get their hands on. Personally I bought two and will be using them tonight in the privacy of my bedroom. Tom?"
Glenn Quagmire: "Giggedy giggedy giggedy."
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Re:Wahoh! (Score:5, Insightful)
Japan gets a $200 console with one controller, North America gets a $250 with 2 controllers and Wii Sports to help "sell" the common people on the system.
Either way, I'm going to bed. This will all be sorted out by 11am tomorrow morning.
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I dunno about that. Sony's not going to have many units, and they'll likely sell out. Nintendo will be there to comfort those poor brokenhearted folks who didn't get their PS3.
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They neglected to include Wii Sports, but that's ok. Everything I wanted, even if the price is $50 more than I hoped. I'm pleased with Nintendo.
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Meh... (Score:2, Insightful)
DragonQuest: Swords anyone?
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Good news for normal humans (Score:4, Insightful)
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For example, I just bought Starfox for the Nintendo DS (I waited for the reviews and decided 80% from most gaming rags was enough). The game controls almost entirely with the stylus. You would think that would grant you slightly better control, but it doesn't -- everyone I've seen playing the game is constant
Awwww :( (Score:4, Insightful)
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Article pulled (Score:3, Informative)
Letdown. (Score:4, Funny)
I let all of the pre-coverage get me to expect either a release date earlier than 1 month before Christmas, or a price closer to $200.
$250 and late November is kind of a letdown.
The most irritating fact? $5-$10 virtual console games. What with the price of ram back in the day, it sounds like they'll be making around a dollar for dollar profit margin that they were in the 90s. If you convert it to % profit margins and consider the fact that bandwidth costs are minimal, they're making a profit margin in the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of percents.
This single set of facts has turned me from eager to get a Wii into more of a wait and see approach.
Oh well.
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Re:Letdown. (Score:4, Informative)
According to this press release [nintendo.co.jp], no game is included.
-Tony
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I think the mods are laughing at you, not with you.
Not really (Score:2)
500 yen for NES games, 800 yen for SNES games, 1000 yen for N64 games. Sounds fair to me. Sure, it's about 100% profit margin, but to me these games are worth more than they're asking for, so I don't mind it.
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Include the cost of the base emulator and amortize the cost. You're still looking at an incredibly low value relative to most modern games.
True and false. One, most emulators (NES and
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The cost of debugging a 10 years old game with the emulator will certainly not be 1/5 of a new title, but neither it will be 0.01% of the price of the download. Sales of these old games are expected to be lower than the new titles too. Nintendo will be making a good penny on the old games but this is NOT money for free - the actual cost of one download, including preparation of the ROM with betatesting and emulator corrections will not be near the sale price ($4-$
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from Joystiq (Score:4, Informative)
Sweet spot (Score:3, Insightful)
No only that, but the price of the new games at ~$10 less than the X360 - gives a clear indication that Nintendo see the X360 as their main competition. Maybe they think that Sony have dropped the ball with their pricing and PR machines!?
No, I'm not a fan boy of any console (in fact I'm a dedicated PC gamer) - but it seems that Nintendo have employed some very smart people for this entire project, considering no-one was really thinking them as a major console player (again) and then last years' E3 and, suddenly, they are ahead of everyone else in terms of buzz. Clever stuff.
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Even for the rare ones, you can most likely pick up NES carts on ebay or at a funcoland-like store for a fraction of that price. Without the piss-poor emulation deficiencies that have plagues previous nintendo rereleases (remember the game boy color Nes Series line?)
I've bought these games once, and played them to death. I've downloaded them again when nesticle came out, and played them to death. Who's the target market here? The nostalgia crowd is savv
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SNES games: 800 yen (approx $7 USD)
N64 games: 1000 yen (approx $8.50 USD)
Those prices are confirmed for Japan, no word yet on US prices (wait until about 10am for that). Personally, at those prices I'll be buying the cream of the crop (FF6, SMB3, etc) but not the lesser-known titles they might put up.
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Jumping the gun. (Score:3, Insightful)
article pulled, inaccurate? (Score:5, Interesting)
SNES launch price: 25000 Yen / 200 USD.
N64 launch price: 25000 Yen / 200 USD.
Gamecube launch price: 25000 yen / 200 USD.
Wii launch price: 25000 yen / ??? USD.
Hrm.
Exchange rates? (Score:4, Informative)
N64 US relase date: Sept 29, 1996 Exchange rate: 1996-10-01 112.41 yen/USD
Gamecube US release date: Nov 18, 2001 Exchange rate: 2001-12-01 127.59 yen/USD
Wii US release date: Nov 19, 2006 Exchange rate: 2006-09-13 117.47 yen/USD
So, yes a good guess for the launch price would be 200 USD.
However, various sources [gamesarefun.com] disagree.
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Exchange rates? No, inflation (Score:3, Insightful)
There was a Miyamoto interview that addressed this (Score:5, Funny)
Miyamoto replied "Fluck you Amelicans too!"
Rumor has it that this incident is why the Wii is being shipped later than expected too. I guess he's still a little bitter.
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New date is because of the sony delay (Score:2)
A little Family Guy for ya. (Score:5, Funny)
Tom Tucker: "Our top story tonight, more video game news just two days after riots destroyed many gaming storefronts from the unexpectedly horrible launch of the Playstation 3. Diane has more, Diane?"
Diane Simmons: "Thanks Tom. Wii. Sure it sounds like a penis, but what else is it? It's the new Nintendo console and it's causing quite a stir. We now go live to Asian reporter Trisha Takinawa for a report, Trisha?"
Trisha Takinawa: "Thank you Diane. Nintendo released the strangely-named console today to rave reviews. As you can see here, waving around this long slender shaft causes action to occur on-screen. It's quite a reversal from the usual manner of things. Retailers report they have plenty of Wii to go around, and that it's something people just can't wait to get their hands on. Personally I bought two and will be using them tonight in the privacy of my bedroom. Tom?"
Glenn Quagmire: "Giggedy giggedy giggedy."
www.wii.com (Score:5, Informative)
www.wii.com [wii.com]
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Wii Menu [wii.com]
Wii Web Browser/News Channel [wii.com]
Wii Weather [wii.com]
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FALSE (Score:3, Informative)
Still $200? (Score:2)
Damn you Sony!!! (Score:2)
So, thanks Sony. Not only do you suck, but you suck so bad that you've created a halo-effect that causes your competetors to suck also.
This is rumor fodder. (Score:2)
The Japan event placed the system at a launch point of 25,000 yen ($212 USD) on December second for Japan. If Nintendo follows the same pattern it used for the DS, I'd say the system is likely to ship close to November 15th at a price point of $200. While it seems like Nintendo won't have too many problems selling the system even at $250, I'm betting they will round the price down for the US market. (A
It will come in three sizes... (Score:3, Funny)
What about Europe? (Score:3)
AAAAAAAAAARRRRGH when's it coming out over here?
Here in Britain, Sony have already admitted they prefer selling to the rest of the world, and won't let us have any until after the Christmas sales rush, which has pissed off a LOT of gamers.
The big question here is will Nintendo also treat us like second-class citizens and hand the British games market to MS on a plate by giving them a second uncontested Christmas?
So much is right, they can't go wrong.. can they? (Score:5, Insightful)
I love love love the browser, and the weather thing, and virtual console.. just seeing R-Type in Nintendo's Japanese presentation made me wet. I want to play Super Mario World again, and when I get stuck, I want to press the HOME button, fire up Opera, and look for the GameFAQs article. Oh no more running for a magazine or booting the PC just for that!
Playing all those old Gamecube games for $5-$10 in the bargain and second-user bins at Gamestop will keep me happy for SOOOO long.
Yeah we'd all like it to cost $150, but Nintendo are apparently going to sell the Wii at a profit in contrast to the super-expensive loss-making XBox360 and Playstation 3. They have plenty of scope to cost reduce, lower consumer prices in the future, without it being a real financial tussle for them.
HOORAY! I've never been this excited about a games console in my life.
BBC say 2nd December in Jp, no date known EU,US (Score:3, Funny)
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It's not a bad link, the top item on their "most read" articles is the same as the link from slashdot with the title "Nintendo gets Wii ready for holidays". It was probably written in advance of the media embargo deadline and posted too early for whatever reason, then had to be pulled.
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Hogwash!! (Score:2)
That's: 25 000 Japanese yen = 212.51 U.S. dollars
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However, the Japanese Wii doesn't include pack-in Wii Sports. If the NYT is correct (long shot; release prior to Japan?!?), perhaps the American launch is going to be somewhat different. Here's hoping that extra $50 gets us both Wii Sports *and* a second controller out of the box to play it with. That would be wor
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Re:WTF? (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, but it comes with 512MB built-in flash, and will take bog standard SD cards for expansion. Add an extra $40 there just to get a 64MB card so you can save games (cursing under your breath that if it used standard flash you could get 1GB for the same price).
Wii also does wireless networking out of the box. Add another $100 for the adapter on the core.
Noone's been speculating they won't include the Wii Remote. It's the centerpiece of the new system. Whether they'll include the wired "classic" controller is the only thing in the air. So, add another $50 for a wireless controller to bring the Core system up to par.
Then there's the bundled game. Add another $20 to get even a budget title on the XBox side.
That brings up to a grand total of an extra $210 to rectify the most glaring ommisions in the Core system. Of course, since we're talking two systems it's impossible to make them perfectly equivilent; the 360 is still pretty certainly the more powerful system and supports HD output, while the Wii has it's unique controller features and hints of some interesting console features (the "channels" whatever they are, built-in browser, etc).
The price is right (Score:5, Insightful)
You can thank Sony and Microsoft for that. With the Xbox and the PS3 so expensive, there's not a whole lot of reason for Nintendo to go too low with the price. Besides, if the price is too low compared to the competition, customers will perceive it as being "cheap" and thus not worthy of their attention. Anyway, it's not going to matter. Nintendo will sell a shitload of these at US$250. They would sell a shitload at US$350, I guess. I know I'll buy one as soon as I can.
And since they bundle a game (I'd have bought the Sports game if it wasn't bundled), it's not a bad deal anyway.
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Its nitpicking.. but probably.. "finally, the Wii will also have the ability to browse the web on your TV" is a bit clearer.
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Oh wait, this is slashdot..
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Opera + Java + Mindterm and you have a decent text terminal. Or java VNC client and you have a graphical terminal. (but likely the keyboard will be about the same as name entry in nintendo games, suuuucks!)
Still, imagine the total jawdrop of your friends as you start playing PC games on your WII (in fact on the remote PC, importing the display). Just for nerd points, worth it.
Re:Anybody really interested? (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously, have you been on Slashdot for the past year? If not, I'll get you up to date:
Nintendo fanboys have concluded that the Wii will cure cancer. This is a definite possibility, as it's awesome levels can be measured with a Geiger Counter.
Sony has decided to shoot itself in various appendages so many times, it now not only lacks feet, but legs, arms, and a distinguishable face. PS3s will still sell out. Sony fanboys cry a little on the inside, wads of $600 dollars slipping through holes in their pockets.
Microsoft twiddles its thumbs, whistles, and eats a kitten.
PS3 to cure cancer, not Wii! (Score:2)
Uhm... No, that was the PS3 [breakingwindows.com]. And I'm not even joking.
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Wii impresses with WiFi??? Are you kidding? (Score:2)
You're looking at the Wii, and you're impressed with the WiFI? You've got to be kidding me.
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Re:Anybody really interested? (Score:4, Insightful)
Now, the Wii.... The price is right, and it actually seems INTERESTING. And it seems that it will have games that even the Mrs. could enjoy. So which to get? PS3 or Xbox which are exactly the same as consoles before them were, the games are just shinier. OTOH, the Wii is quite cheap, and they are actually trying to do something new with it.
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Aehm, N64 had the first true 3D jump'n run (Mario64), first game with lock-on fights (ZeldaOoT), analog-stick, rumblepack, dedicated controls for the camera and tons of other stuff. Its probally the most innovative console around since the beginning of console gaming.
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If you game the definition to something like "If anybody anywhere ever thought of it before it was deployed, it's not innovative", then you're going to live a very uninnovative life. Which is fine, but such a definition of "innovation" that nothing can meet isn't very useful.
I suppose there aren't any innovating programming languages since LISP since proper LISP macros could emulate pretty much any of them. A consistent definition of "innovative", but not
Are you insane? (Score:3, Insightful)
Are you insane? This is the first time I'm actually excited about a console since first playing with my friend's NES! I mean, we've been playing the same games over and over for the last 20 years. For the first time since the Atari 2600, there's something truly new and exciting happening. I'll probably buy three of them (one for my living room, one for my bedroom and one for my girlfriend's place).
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PC is a league of their own. You either play games that are 8 years old, or invest at least $1000 up front to be able to play the newest ones. Sure it's upgradable, it knows lots of tricks and can do more than XBOX360 and PS3 taken together.
PS3 and XBOX360 both run on sequels, remakes, more of the same, with better graphics. No innovation, nothing new. Out of 10 XBOX titles scheduled for release date, 9 were sequels. Sony doesn't
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But if you want to wait for confirmation, Reggie will be delivering his own press conference at 9am this morning. That should help to clear up any confusion.
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See... Nintendo has realized that you don't need high quality graphics to have fun. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that the graphics in the Wii will be much improved over their older offerings, but they don't need to break the bank on an 8-cor
Re:Practical considerations (Score:4, Insightful)
Holy shit! You're right! Pure speculation does suggest that the controller will be uncomfortable to use for long periods!
Damn... if only Nintendo had thought to test the controller for 30-40min consecutively, they could have noticed this problem and corrected it before release.... too late now....... why didn't you say something sooner?!