The Top 100 Games of the 21st Century 82
Ground Glass writes "Most top ten or top 100 lists are pure opinion, and thus a source of great debate as their objectivity is questioned by everyone with a personal favorite. Next Gen has chosen a different route — this is the top 100 games on PlayStation 2, Xbox, and Gamecube, calculated since the start of the decade by unit sales in America." As you'd expect, GTA, Halo, and Madden are in the top ten ... but did you know Smash Brothers Melee has sold 3.2 million units? Interesting stuff.
No PC games? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:No PC games? (Score:5, Insightful)
And this isn't "The Top 100 Games of the 21st Century" it's "The 100 top-selling console games of the last 5 years".
Lame - with a capital 'L'.
Re:No PC games? (Score:2, Insightful)
And?
You people are saying this as if a) you're giving the rest of us some great revelation that we couldn't otherwise figure out ourselves, and b) it matters.
So let me get this straight - you clicked the link actually expecting to find the definitive list - no further argument or debate necessary - of the top 100 games of the 21st century? I'm guessing that based on your literal interpretatio
Re:No PC games? (Score:2)
Re:No PC games? (Score:3, Informative)
This is why I don't do 'awards'. They never explain why one thing is better than another
Top is a relative term, and the 21st Century is the last five years...and when in doubt, RTFA.
Here are some notes on how this list works.
Screw the awards people (Score:1)
Re:Screw the awards people (Score:3, Insightful)
Nintendogs Out sold Halo and Pokemon consistantly outsells GTA.
Re:No PC games? (Score:2)
Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all. (Score:5, Insightful)
I would guess that games like Half-Life 2 and World of Warcraft would rank very highly in term of dollars produced, and last time I checked -- they're games. PC games deserve full recognition in this category as well. The fact that they're not included makes the article meaningless.
And does it really make sense to offer a Top 100 of ANYTHING where we're only five years into the 21st centry?
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:2)
Are we counting subscription revenue? (Score:2)
Re:Are we counting subscription revenue? (Score:2)
#2, Halo has Estimated Sales: 4.2 million
#1, GTA:VC has Estimated Sales: 7 Million
I think it's pretty safe to say WoW's had more than 4.2 box sales, which puts them at either #2 or #1.
After all,
"World of Warcraft's European customer base is currently at more than 1 million players, with the worldwide total now at more than 6 million players."
http://www.blizzard.com/press/060228.shtml [blizzard.com]
Re:Are we counting subscription revenue? (Score:2)
Sold damn well.
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:2)
Secondly, this sentence brought a question to mind:
I would guess that games like Half-Life 2 and World of Warcraft would rank very highly in term of dollars produced
If they did include PC games and they did it based purely on "unit" sales, wouldn't that unfairly underrepresent the importance of games like WOW where subscriptions are a huge portion of the revenue? Similarly, wouldn't it overrepresent them if it was based purely on revenue?
A lot of people s
Yes, subscriptions should be included. (Score:2)
In fact, that makes the inclusion of PC games into this list even more critical. It shows that games like World of Warcraft could easily be the most popular games of all. Why? Because people keep paying the monthly subscription fees!! After all, if people suddenly d
Re:Yes, subscriptions should be included. (Score:1, Funny)
Damn right. They bought Windows for Minesweeper.
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:1)
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:1)
...to a PC only gamer. In defense of Next-Gen they did say they'd do more lists, one just for PCs and one for handhelds. The PC and handheld markets are vastly different sizes than the console market, it'd be misleading to directly compare unit sales of such different markets.
Absolutely. PS2, GC and Xbox were all released in or after t
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:2)
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:2, Funny)
Sure it does... there won't be any new games made after Jack Thompson shuts the video game industry down for good later this year!
Re:Exactly. Apparently, PCs can't run games at all (Score:1)
Yeah, I'd suggest never buying a Gamecube. Updating the graphics drivers is always a fight.
Also:
-viruses/malware
-anti-virus/anti-malware
-software bugs
-hardware bugs
-hardware performance
-installing new drivers (a version that actually supports your game)
-installing the game
-waiting for the patch
-finding and installing the patch
-defragging your drive
-tuning your system (killing tray programs, reading readme files, etc)
Of co
Re:No PC games? (Score:1, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_selling
Re:No PC games? (Score:1)
Re:No PC games? (Score:2)
Considering that PC games are wildly different from console games, I don't really mind. As a PC gamer, I took a look through the top 30 titles and was intrigued to see that
You get the same kind of thing if you go and compare the top-ranked games on the various platforms over at Metacritic.com [metacritic.com] or similar. Are Halo 1 and 2 really the best an
Popularity = Money? (Score:4, Interesting)
Software piracy!
MPAA and the like are quick to quote numbers on how much revenue is lost due to illegal downloads and file sharing. Yet where are these statistics when it comes to determining a game's popularity and longevity? Industries are so quick to point these statistics out only when they cater to their own demands.
I know all my illegal downloads of "Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom" alone would've easily bumped it up from #67 to #66!
And yes, I know the stats on lost revenue are stupid since downloading a game illegally doesn't mean you would've paid for it.
I think the point I'm trying to make is that while they did try to take many factors into account, ultimately they're defining "popularity" as "sales" and I don't think that's entirely accurate.
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"A man is asked if he is wise or not. He replies that he is otherwise" ~Mao Zedong
Re:Popularity = Money? (Score:2)
This was a limited list anyhow (Score:2)
Re:Popularity = Money? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Popularity = Money? (Score:1)
As for this article, it only looks at console games. We need to keep in mind that it is much easier to download crack.rar from a website than to mod your PS2/Xbox/Cube to play copied games. This means that only the more determined will attempt it, further lowering the number.
Please..... (Score:5, Insightful)
OK, content I can go along with. But trying to claim copyright on the rankings themselves? That's kind of like the NFL claiming copyright on the standings and prohibiting newspapers from publishing them without a license fee.
Come on kids. You're writing about VIDEO GAMES. Not exactly "War and Peace". Be happy that Slashdot picked up your link, is sending all kinds of people to visit, and get off the IP bandwagon.
Re:Please..... (Score:5, Informative)
Its stupid, yes, but as a business you look for any revenue you can. Better safe than sorry, copyright everthing under the sun, and then sue everyone who looks at you funny. Who knows? If your lawyer is scary enough you might get some free $$$ in a settlement.
Dont you love the litigious society we live in? Myself, it makes me want to puke.
What??? (Score:2)
Where's my duck/duct tape? My head's about to explode thinking about that one.
Re:Please..... (Score:2)
Re:Please..... (Score:2)
But hey, when you fall from the nations past time to the nations dirty steroid infested bore fest you have to do something to get some $$$ back. Personally I would rather watch the WNBA than major league
Re:Please..... (Score:1)
IANAL, but as far as I know, you cannot copyright facts or ideas, only the expression of those ideas. Although the notice claims that the order of the items in the list are copyrighted, I doubt a court would agree.
The factual information regarding sports results, rankings, etc. is not copyright-able, but the expression of those facts is. You should be able to copy the data (but not any commentary / opinions) by re-writing/re-typing it, but if you photocopied the newspaper page, then you could be in trou
Re:Please..... (Score:2)
11 pages? (Score:5, Informative)
11 pages for one article? It starts at 100, and gives you no option to click through to the top ten. next-gen.biz are pageview whores, and deserve their ad-free printable version link [next-gen.biz] to be published.
Re:11 pages? (Score:2)
You can do your own math, but it seems to me Halo2 appears to be #1.
Re:11 pages? (Score:1)
Re:11 pages? (Score:2)
You could just change the web address for page 11
Just click the print article link (Score:2)
Re:11 pages? (Score:1)
Wow, that was fast. (Score:1)
Re:Wow, that was fast. (Score:1, Informative)
NOTE: To view page, simply copy and paste the URL in your browser (it is blocking based on
slashdotted! (Score:1)
Re:slashdotted! (Score:1, Funny)
Perhaps we should all email the administrator as suggested ?
Re:slashdotted! (Score:2)
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Wow (Score:2)
5.5, really. (Score:1)
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Actually, it is. Pac-Man does not compare very well to Grand Theft Auto, not only because of the type of game, but the venue of playing it. Modern games tend to be 3D and you tend to buy the game. You usually don't rack up "points" against a computer that will then take away "lives", but aim to "finish" the game or gain the most "frags" against a human opponent.
Sure, there are a lot of similarities too, but I think there are more
Where and how do they get these stats? (Score:2)
Re:Halo??? You Must Be Joking... (Score:2)
Re:Halo??? You Must Be Joking... (Score:2)
Re:Halo??? You Must Be Joking... (Score:1)
What made Halo what it is and as a result sell many XBoxes (XBoxen?) was the multiplayer over XBox Live. It was the first console that had LAN/Internet networking integrated and a nice simple interface. Without it the game might have been just another FPS that faded away. Without XBox Live we wouldn't have Halo fanboys.
MS could've put out Halo without
Re:Halo??? You Must Be Joking... (Score:2)
Halo 2 supported Xbox Live Multiplayer, but that came well after Halo 1 had cem
Last 5 years only (Score:2)
Waste of time and bandwidth. My bets are lots of games from the 80's and 90's would blow most of these titles away in sales.
Re:Last 5 years only (Score:1)
what [wikipedia.org]
How lame. (Score:1)
The 21st century is less than a decade old and already some pretentious hacks are lame enough to declare the top 100 games. Anything to suck in readership...
Re:How lame. (Score:1)
YES I know it's by sales but the century is young.
I don't know about anyone else... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I don't know about anyone else... (Score:1)
Re:I don't know about anyone else... (Score:2)
Um, can I borrow your time machine? seeing as you appear have come forward in time from either 2003 or 2004. :-)
Occasionally working Mirrordot cache (Score:3, Informative)
This link works sometimes but not others. I was going to paste the article but there's about 3 sentences X 100 listings so it's not really feasible.
let me guess. . . (Score:1)
A good article (Score:2)
Pile Of... (Score:1)
(And I feel I am being nice....)
Is the submitter a fanboy? (Score:1)
Most Stupid Article Ever on Slashdot? (Score:2)
2. The 21st century is only 6 years old.
3. PlayStation 2, Xbox and GameCube are not the only ways to play computer games. Where the hell is the PC?
4. I don't think you can copyright the _order_ of a list.
Seriously, is that site done by 10 year olds?
P.