Microsoft Says Vista Most Secure OS Ever 440
darryl24 writes "Microsoft senior vice president Bob Muglia opened up TechEd 2006 in Boston Sunday evening by proclaiming that Windows Vista was the most secure operating system in the industry. But a bold statement can only go so far, and much of this week's conference has been spent reinforcing that point. Microsoft also acknowledges that nothing is infallible when it comes to computer security. In turn, the company has employed black hat hackers for what is called a penetration, or pen, test team."
Microsoft + Stupid Claims = ... (Score:0, Insightful)
Maybe true today, but (Score:5, Insightful)
As always, future history is yet to be written--although it tends to reflect and repeat the past.
can't break what you can't see!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Meanwhile... (Score:4, Insightful)
It's true... (Score:1, Insightful)
Microsoft (Score:3, Insightful)
1) The OS is not used by anyone when the "most secure" sentence was released.
2) The only OS existing in the Microsoft world has the one made by Microsoft (excluding OS/2).
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How does that compare (Score:1, Insightful)
The power of the public is cooperation. Someone finds a small bit and _shares_ it with others. A dozen guys in a microsoft office (pun) have none of this power.
Not finding a hole is no proof of being airtight anyway.
vajk
This is laughable (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe it's just marketspeak, or maybe it's more of the same arrogance that they know better what is secure than reality does. I'll sit back and wait for a few years, thanks.
Black hat? (Score:4, Insightful)
Could someone explain the difference between the two so I can make sure I didnt screw up?
Employed black hat hackers??? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Depends on the definition. (Score:3, Insightful)
Secure against whom?
KFG
No OS is secure enough (Score:2, Insightful)
Mod the entire article as +5 Funny and move on... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Black hat? (Score:5, Insightful)
What would you think if an airport employed terrorists as security personnel because they know better what to look for?
Re:Black hat? (Score:3, Insightful)
A black hat also got a month's contract for the same duty. He ran the rootkit and found all the exploits on day one. Then he used the corporate network for gaming and DDOS for the rest of the days. At the end of the month, show them the exploits and tell them their product is fucked.
Re:This is laughable (Score:5, Insightful)
It's bad enough to be prompted every 15 minutes for a restart after I've installed updates, EVEN IF I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING. Yes, Windows will pull me out of full-screen just to tell me that it has finished installing updates. To top it all off, I wont be able to browse the internet or insert CDs without some twat at Microsoft building the program to assume that I dont know what the fuck I'm doing with my computer? Sounds like a brilliant security strategy. Piss people off enough so that they never use your OS.
That kind of treat-you-like-you're-stupid shit is what makes me dread installing updates. I dont give a shit that I need to restart to install updates. Windows has waited for weeks for me to restart, and I dont need the constant nagging while it's waiting. Let me know when Vista has had its obligatory "dont treat me like I'm a mindless twat computer user" update. Then I'll get it.
Re:Black hat? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes it would.
Making this particular claim a:) a fundamental logic error made by the biggest manufacturer of software in the world, or b) a completely unbased and silly statement based upon marketing.
Funny thing is, this is the first time I've ever hoped for a Microsoft statement to be FUD.
Tommy Boy (Score:3, Insightful)
For some reason, MS saying that makes me think of that line...
(Sorry if I butchered it a bit).
Secure? (Score:3, Insightful)
But I would never, ever, ever utter the words Vista, OpenBSD, and security in the same sentence in a positive tone.
Re:Hold The Font Page! (Score:3, Insightful)
I seem to recall that Dave Barry had a good line that would extend well to this case:
'...Windows XP, which according to everybody is the "most reliable Windows
ever." To me, this is like saying that asparagus is "the most articulate
vegetable ever."'
bummer of a birth mark... (Score:5, Insightful)
From my favorite FarSide cartoon: Two deer standing in the woods, one has a bullseye on his chest, the other one says, "Bummer of a birth mark Hal."
Re:Depends on the definition. (Score:2, Insightful)
KFG
Re:Microsoft + Stupid Claims = ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, I think Vista is their Titanic and they just solidified this feeling by claiming that it's 'unsinkable'
Ahoy! Iceberg ahead...
Re:Microsoft + Stupid Claims = ... (Score:2, Insightful)
If they're not paying you for it, don't.
If you're supposed to pay for the OS, they're supposed to pay for the bug reports. Plain and simple.
Re:Microsoft + Stupid Claims = PROFITS! (Score:3, Insightful)
If you read TFA, you'll see the phrase 'the most secure operating system in the industry' is similar to what auto makers use. Ford or Toyota never says 'Our car is the best'. They say 'The Toyota Newsupercar is best in its class', which of course means the class is limited to all vehicles that are the same year, color, size, weight, manufacturer, and model as the Toyota Newsupercar.
The 'in the industry' is most likely limited to large companies that had 2005 quarterly gross profits of over $8 billion and have a product called Windows. The "industry" is further limited to all home products with the names Vista or WindowsME.
As you can see, Vista is indeed the most secure OS in the industry.*
Re:It's True! (Score:3, Insightful)
If this is true (I don't have a machine infected^W with Vista to test it against) that's an instant denial-of-service attack for you. Better still, there may be a way to get a shell on the Vista server under the priviledges of the user that started the RDP session ... So much for checking all interfaces parsing through incoming data to check for overflows or bad handling.
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
Re:This is laughable (Score:2, Insightful)