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Dvorak Admits To Trolling Mac Users 354

jalefkowit writes "Tech pundit John Dvorak has long been known for his inflammatory opinions. Many have suspected that these opinions are just a way to drive up traffic to his column. Now, we have it straight from the horse's mouth: Dave Winer has Dvorak on video describing his methodology for trolling the Mac community to pump up his stats." I have to admit I'm also guilty of posting the occasional inflammatory story, but I find it's usually best to suffix the title with a question mark, and let our ever-knowledgeable readers hash out the issue and decide for themselves.
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Dvorak Admits To Trolling Mac Users

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  • Torrent download (Score:3, Informative)

    by nacturation ( 646836 ) <nacturation @ g m ail.com> on Saturday June 10, 2006 @12:59PM (#15509518) Journal
    Direct link: http://s3.amazonaws.com/scripting/dvorak.mov?torre nt [amazonaws.com]

    Of course, Dvorak will just say that it's not true -- he was just trolling on that recording, thus completing the prophecy and dooming mankind.
  • by Whiney Mac Fanboy ( 963289 ) * <whineymacfanboy@gmail.com> on Saturday June 10, 2006 @01:09PM (#15509585) Homepage Journal
    Dvorak is nothing other than the worlds most successful troll.

    I think you meant:

    Dvorak is nothing other than the worlds most successful internet troll.

    (see Stern, Rush, etc etc)
  • by tdvaughan ( 582870 ) on Saturday June 10, 2006 @01:10PM (#15509591) Homepage
    Link to the video [youtube.com]. The sound was out of sync for me, but he basically comes across as a smug arse.
  • Re:Disgraceful (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 10, 2006 @01:16PM (#15509619)
    Heh, an aunt of mine knows coulter well, and assures me she doesn't believe most of what she says. In her own words, she has no qualms about telling the book buying public what they hope to hear from her, both liberals, conservatives and anyone else. It's just good business.

    Others might call it trolling but if you call it "catering to your market" it's a great way to make moniey.
  • by ickeicke ( 927264 ) on Saturday June 10, 2006 @02:42PM (#15509960)
    It's the URL that sucks, it ought to be http://mac-sucks.com/ [mac-sucks.com] :) .
  • by InakaBoyJoe ( 687694 ) on Saturday June 10, 2006 @03:47PM (#15510183)
    Here's the transcript of the video. Note that the audio is out of sync on the BitTorrent version too.

    (Dvorak): ... there's a formula for pissing off Macintosh users and getting a lot of links or attention. And this has been deconstructed, but never accurately. I'm going to give you the deconstruction.

    First, I write something that would be semi-innocuous, with just enough insulting stuff to get a lot of attention from the Macintosh community. So then they would write in -- and by the way, it would always be done in such a way that I had outs -- in other words, I would write in kind of a leisurely way. That would get me one column with a lot of numbers.

    Then I'd get a lot of hate mail, and all kinds of weird Macintosh reaction. And then, I would react to it as though I was flabbergasted that everybody misterpreted me, and that they hated it, and I don't get it, and what's wrong with these people ... which would piss them off even more.

    So I'd get like huge hits ...

    (Interviewer): So what was the point of all this?

    (Dvorak): Now wait a minute. For numbers!

    (Interviewer): Which numbers -- exactly, what numbers are you looking for?

    (Dvorak): I get them. Believe me. Lots of numbers.

    Now, then I let it simmer down for a while, and then whatever position I took originally, I would change the position exactly the opposite, and tell the Macintosh people I was completely wrong, and they were write all along, and the numbers would go through the ceiling!! Haha!

  • by David Rolfe ( 38 ) on Saturday June 10, 2006 @09:39PM (#15511141) Homepage Journal
    Hey there.

    If you could read you'd know that he's actually meta-quoting Josh Trevino of http://redstate.com/ [redstate.com] via http://www.swordscrossed.org/?p=50 [swordscrossed.org]. Here's what you didn't read to illuminate the situation:

    By far the most enlightening thing I have read on the blogosphere in the past two months came from Republican Operative and founder of RedState.com Joshua Trevino, on Armando's and Trevino's new blog Swords Crossed. In an incredibly instructive piece--and I encourage everyone to read the whole thing--Josh Trevino does us all the favor of introducing us to the Overton Window.

    Anyway, I know it's both faster and easier to just jump straight to the ad hominem rather than make any substantive argument. I don't fault you for it. Least resistance is the natural order.

Logic is the chastity belt of the mind!