Nintendo President Talks Wii/DS Hookup 121
GameDaily has a look at comments by Nintendo's President Iwata about connectivity between the DS and the Wii. He also touches on the Virtual Console, and Nintendo's place in the marketplace. From the article: "Let's say your Wii is connected to the Internet in a mode that allows activation on a 24-hour basis. This would allow Nintendo to send monthly promotional demos for the DS, during the night, to the Wii consoles in each household. Users would wake up each morning, find the LED lamp on their Wii flashing, and know that Nintendo has sent them something ..."
Do I get a say in the matter? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Do I get a say in the matter? (Score:2, Insightful)
3 GB per month Caps in .nz and .au (Score:5, Informative)
you actually pay per byte to download? You need a better ISP.
Try a better country. The oligopoly situation in e.g. Australia and New Zealand, combined with the limited bandwidth on and off the continent, has allowed residential "broadband" providers to get away with billing per megabyte over the first 3000 in a month.
does 1MB == 1,000,000 bytes for those ISPs? (Score:2)
Just a question, because I honestly don't know... in countries like those you mentioned, do the ISP's measure 1MB as 1,000,000 bytes?
Re:does 1MB == 1,000,000 bytes for those ISPs? (Score:1)
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Re:does 1MB == 1,000,000 bytes for those ISPs? (Score:2)
While the binary measurements can be more convenient for a programmer they really only hinder common users. The computer should be de
Re:does 1MB == 1,000,000 bytes for those ISPs? (Score:1)
I do like the IEEE 1541 names better though, but that's probably just because they're newer and shinier.
Re:does 1MB == 1,000,000 bytes for those ISPs? (Score:1)
Re:3 GB per month Caps in .nz and .au (Score:1)
Try a better country. The oligopoly situation in e.g. Australia and New Zealand, combined with the limited bandwidth on and off the continent, has allowed residential "broadband" providers to get away with billing per megabyte over the first 3000 in a month.
Man, next thing you know, you'll tell us you have to pay per minute for local phone calls
Re:3 GB per month Caps in .nz and .au (Score:2)
Don't forgot Dodo Internet what with their awesome 200mb/month plan and I was reading a magazine and saw a 50mb/plan from some random ISP. You'll end up paying tons for those plans if you get sucked into buying them. I think the 50mb/month one was $5 for each excess 100mb o
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3 GB Caps? Bollocks! (Score:2)
Try a better country. The oligopoly situation in e.g. Australia and New Zealand, combined with the limited bandwidth on and off the continent, has allowed residential "broadband" providers to get away with billing per megabyte over the first 3000 in a month.
I don't know what the situation is in NZ, but that's definitely not the situation in Australia any more. Maybe three years ago. There's plenty of choice now, and I'm not even sure if any ISP still charges you for going over the limit.
We still don
Re:Do I get a say in the matter? (Score:2)
It's one of the better deals around at the moment as I can't afford the $150/month for unlimited data usage.
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Not the point (Score:2)
Re:Not the point (Score:1)
Nintendo's attitude towards online services has been pretty conservative which tells me they're not doing anything without thinking it through.
I also firmly beleive Nintendo may very well consider the online abilities of the Wii second to it's main features. I would also expect to see Virtual Console collections for sell at retail simply because Nintendo knows not all of thier fans have broadband.
This is all spectulation of course.
Re:Do I get a say in the matter? (Score:1)
For the first question (and I haven't researched this) I would be inclined to think that the largest part of any game is the content and media (music, sprites etc.) and that the engine is fairly small, so a demo is probably also fairly small.
For the second question, well they can only release one demo per game right? Even if they succeed in a greater variety of smaller but still entertaining games (their b
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Already taken care of. (Score:3, Interesting)
Not enough (Score:2)
Re:Not enough (Score:2)
And yet it says right in the summary that this feature is active only if your Wii is in a particular mode.
Don't people even read the summary anymore?
Re:Not enough (Score:1)
Enough already! (Score:4, Funny)
Wii/DS Hookup aint right (Score:4, Funny)
....isn't that incest?
Re:Wii/DS Hookup aint right (Score:2)
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Re:Wii/DS Hookup aint right (Score:4, Funny)
Or, in the traditional FUD mode, (Score:4, Funny)
Nintendo to encourage indie devs? (Score:4, Interesting)
hell yeah. Hope it turns out the way he makes it sound.
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Corporate Aikido (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Corporate Aikido (Score:2)
You realize he's talking about Xbox Live Arcade, right?
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Hey! (Score:3, Funny)
Hey, I like suicidegirls.com as much as the next person, but isn't it a bit excessive for one's wii to be "activated" by the internet for more than 24 hours?!
Oh wait. You were talking about something else entirely. Sorry.
Re:Hey! (Score:1)
Re:Lack of taste?!? (Score:2)
You're not unique if you look like your friends, even if you annoy grandmothers
As a wise man once said: (Score:1)
The Whole Interview (Score:5, Informative)
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/2006
GameDaily summarized (or copied) what they found most interesting. I find this moreso:
Not only that, but 5.1 can't produce a sound exactly where you are no matter where you are in the room.
Yet another instance of Nintendo anticipating their customer's needs rather than (or in addition to) listening to their gripes. What customer would have said "speaker in the controller!" rather than "more 5.1 support?"
Re:The Whole Interview (Score:1)
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Please, No (Score:2)
I would have had to logged on daily to have cleaned out all the garbage. And let's face it, you don't want screenshots, demos or movies of every g
Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:3, Insightful)
There is just no need. Whatever little present in Animal Crossing, or whatever little "neato" thing they are going to download is going to only take a few seconds at most; could probably be done while the thing is booting up and we wouldn't even notice.
My Wii won't be connected 24/7, because I refuse to leave my Internet on that much. I flip the switch on the cable modem at night to cut it off, and turn it on in the AM. There is just no reason for it to run 24/7 if no one is using it, IMO, so I don't even take the chance.
My Wii won't even use wi-fi if I can avoid it. Ninty hasn't said anything for awhile about it, but at one point did say an optional accessory would allow you to add it to a wired network. I know wireless is all the rage among certain people, but why do wireless when I already have ethernet cable available in every room? Wired is better than wireless if you have access to it (and mine is wired just like most ppl's cable is, in sockets). Wireless just opens up a whole new can of security worries. If all fails, I do have the Nintendo USB wifi connector, but I hope I don't have to use it just to use my Wii.
AE
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:2, Informative)
Damn You!!! I wondered why my late night downloads keep stopping, it's because of you SWITCHING OFF THA INTARWEBS!! Please leave it on so the rest of the world is able to keep working - kthx.
More seriously - what do you hope to achieve by
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't hope to achieve anything in particular, it's simply, why have it on if no one is going to be using it? I can bring it back up in a split second when I start my day.
What's the point of a firewall? To lock a doorway. But if you are worried about locking it up, why not just close it off absolutely if it's possible? Often times I leave my PC on all night to crunch video or other CPU-in
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:5, Funny)
You probably keep a bucket of water next to your PC just in case it suddenly becomes malevolently intelligent too...
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:2)
Ah, gotta love /.
Only here would some pithy post like that be scored "funny".
Yes, I'm a raving lunatic because I flick my finger on a switch twice a day to turn my internet on and off. There simply is no need for it to be on, so why leave it on? I'm not so feeble that the finger stroke is going to harm me.
Again, only here on /. would someone take think something like that is so outrag
But you ARE a loon (Score:2)
What else do you do? Do you unplug your DVD player and TV at night instead of leaving them in standby?
You crazy loon, you!
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
It's laughable that people call me names because I put my cable modem in standby when I'm shutting down for the night.
Just typical
Asking me if I unplug my TV and DVD player is ridiculous...about as much so as me asking "Do you leave your car headlights on all night?" If you gu
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
You're tripping buddy. Take off the tinfoil.
I really think that you seem to lack faith in the technology you use. If your firewall is active and properly configured, you're not giving yourself "extra" protection by shutting it of when you're away from your computer. You come across as having a smug sense of satisfaction that you're "better" than the average online person.
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
I don't lack faith in anything, I just know "a
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
Second paragraph: there is some small statistical amount of protection coming from turning your cable modem off at night but that still won't protect you when you go on the Internet the next day. Especially if you use a common browser.
Third paragraph: you're being ridiculed because what your doing is futile.
Fourth paragraph:
ttfn.
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
Any rational person can understand the concept of "almost 100%" and "100%", and it seems you do not fit into that category.
AE
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
BTW, can you point out where I said putting the modem in standby had anything to do with using the internet the next day, or that I used a "common" browser? That's what the firewall is for, you can't have 100% when you are accessing the internet. But you CAN when you aren't.
You have a rea
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
At a point in time 100% and almost 100% are different but as you apparently do use the Internet across time the difference disappears. If the zero-day exploit doesn't get you right away it will when you eventually wake up your cable modem.
8^p
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
poke
I'm a nice guy so I'll just leave it at that...
Poke! Dammit that last one just slipped through....
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
Can you answer the question? When did I ever say putting my modem in standby had anything to do with securing the internet when I am online "the next day" as you put it? When did I say anything about using a "common browser"? Or anything about a "zero-day" anything?
Answer is : you can't, because I didn't. And now you are posturing to cover that up. When you make irrelevant comments and don't reply to the a
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
You did seem to imply security as the reason for putting your modem into standby.
Re:he's right and he's funny (Score:2)
Can you make a relevant comment?
When I am not using the Internet, it is safer to have it off. I often leave my PC unattended doing non-internet activities for long periods of time, and instead of relying simply on a software firewall I take 1/2 second and press the standby button the manufacturer put on the device. Why the fuck is this so offensive to you?
You said that I felt it made me safer when I was using the internet "the next day", and brought up things about common browsers and zero-day exp
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:1)
Conserve power?
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Unless the devices have passive use in addition to active use, and powering it down negates the passive use. Like leaving your cable modem powered-up overnight so you can finish downloading a large file while you sleep. Or letting a laser printer go into standby after you print instead of pulling the power cord out of the wall, to allow it to cool down properly and not ruin the fuser.
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My Wii won't be connected 24/7, because I refuse to leave my Internet on that much. I flip the switch on the cable modem at night to cut it off, and turn it on in the AM.... I know wireless is all the rage among certain people, but why do wireless when I already have ethernet cable available in every room?
I'm not saying you're wrong. But I would guess you're in the minority. Most people leave their always-on internet connections... on. There is really no reason to turn them off. Your cable modem hasn't been a bastion of worms and security holes in a while, and the cable / DSL company knows the instant any of the firmware changes, and can change it back. Don't believe me? Try uncapping it, and see how long your hack goes unnoticed. Now try uncapping it or hacking it through the provider's network. Basically impossible.
Most people also don't have ethernet in every room, and the prevalance of ethernet seems on the wane. There is a reason every laptop ships with wireless as a standard feature. Now explain to someone that they need to run 50' of cat 5 from a compatible router (not switch or hub) inserted between their modem and PC, out to their living room, and you'll see why WiFi is catching on. Security settings will need to be finessed from a software side, but even then it shouldn't be too bad. And wireless security these days is great, with WPA. Even WEP wasn't bad, as a good WEP key takes about 20 hours of sniffing around high-traffic areas to crack. A home WEP network with moderate traffic takes weeks or months. And on a modern router cracking into the wireless portion gets you... internet surfing, posing little risk to the internal network if you have anything but the default administrator password. And even if you get that, you still need to get by that computer's firewalls and virus scanners.
A DS Demo size is capped at 4MB (the primary RAM), so you'll probably see 2MB demos in practice... Maybe a minute if the connection is dirty. But it would also probably not be the sort of thing you'd want to sit around for. It just makes sense to do it when the player isn't doing anything else. And maybe they want to upload a free play of Sonic 3 that evening. Yeah, you don't need it, but if you want to try it's already downloaded, saving you time, or it's automatically deleted, costing you nothing. As long as they're not abnoxious about it, this would be a nice little bonus. The only bad thing about Xbox Live Arcade is the actual tedious download of demos, and this seems to alleviate that.
And if you can figure out a way to make it download games while still booting the OS, by all means go right ahead. I'd love to see that code.
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One thing I can't really understand is: wha will they use all that connetedness for when i
Re:Not all that jazzed about this... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Not if you run the wires in the wall, as the parent poster seems to have done. On modern, new-built houses it can be more of a pain, since most walls have horizontal "firewall" joists between the verticals in the walls - which means a lot of fishing and drilling, possibly some drywall work, too.
In my house, built in the early 1970's (block construction, too), the interior walls are simpl
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Nintendo has already released a USB Wireless adapter that you hook to your PC so you don't have to use a wireless router to use Nintendo's WiFi service. I own one, and I use it when I wish to go online with my DS.
Yes, WiFi is built in to both the Wii and the DS, the adapter is for your PC, not the unit.
AE
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I can see it already... (Score:4, Insightful)
At first it may just be Nintendo spam. But they may open it up to let 3rd party game publishers send spam of their own. And how long do you think it will be before someone figures ot how to upload data to the Wii from anywhere?
I welcome the idea of DS demo downloads... (Score:1)
Monthly (Score:2, Insightful)
Auto-Download is going to be optional (Score:2)
Ever played Animal Crossing? Nintendo sends you little presents now and then, but only if you actually turn that option on (go to your room and use the telephone to "call" Nintendo and they'll ask you whether you want stuff like that).
Do you seriously think that this is not going to be an optional feature in the Wii?
Re:Bandwidth: It's infinite and free at night, rig (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Bandwidth: It's infinite and free at night, rig (Score:4, Funny)