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PS3 to Sell at Over $800 in UK 379

joe 155 writes "The Register is reporting that ' the PS3 will cost £425 in the UK - over $800'. SCE UK Managing Director Rat Maguire said: 'I don't think it's an expensive machine - I think actually, it's probably a cheap machine. If you think a Blu-Ray player by itself might be £600-700, and we're coming in at just £425, it's a bargain.' Can a console really be viable at this price?"
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PS3 to Sell at Over $800 in UK

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  • Not that expensive (Score:2, Informative)

    by Jboost ( 960475 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @12:05PM (#15366113)
    Remember the Neo Geo and 3DO, they were well over $800 (with inflation adjustment). See: ole-prices-or-500-aint.html/ []
  • by mausmalone ( 594185 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @12:09PM (#15366140) Homepage Journal
    There is no price set for the Wii for any region yet (though reasonably it will be between $200 and $250 in the US), and the X-Box 360 costs 279 GBP (roughly $530~ish).

    See, the real indication about the absurdity of the price is that in any country using Euros, the price has been announced at 499-599 euros, which is already higher than the US price by a significant margin. That converts to 338-405 GBP. It seems they slapped an extra 20 GBP onto the expensive model for no reason whatsoever bringing it even higher above the already-inflated EU price.
  • by Fred Or Alive ( 738779 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @12:10PM (#15366159)
    The premium Xbox 360 is £280 (~$530), the crap pack is £210 (~$400), the basic (not value / giga pack) PSP is £150 (~$280) and the PlayStation 2 and Xbox 1 both launched at £300 (~$570), although the latter dropped in price very quickly, and Microsoft ended up giving away some controllers and games to early adopters in compensation. All prices rounded up, and include 17.5% VAT.

    The Pound Sterling price is slightly (about £10-20) more than the Euro one, those British plugs must cost a bomb.
  • by nEoN nOoDlE ( 27594 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @12:10PM (#15366160) Homepage
    When I look for a gaming console, I don't care if it plays 8 tracks

    You might not care if the game plays off 8-tracks but remember when Nintendo announced that their N64 system is going to be CARTRIDGES? Nintendo came upon a lot of attack for doing that when the Playstation and Dreamcast were advancing to CDs. So yeah, people care about the medium they're playing on. Whether they care about Blu-Ray remains to be seen, though.
  • by Ant P. ( 974313 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @12:17PM (#15366230) Homepage
    I read somewhere on /. a few weeks ago that the PS3 supposedly has no region locks. Apparently it's the only legitimate defence modchippers have so they removed it.
  • by WedgeTalon ( 823522 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @01:03PM (#15366684)
    Just for fun, here's my cross-country price comparison.

    To explain the format a bit, the first column is the country and the native price of the console in that country. The next three columns are THAT price converted to the respective currency. Originating currency price is marked with ='s. Hope this is a clear enough explanation.

    All prices are rounded off. Conversion done via:
    PS3 Premium
    [Country] [ USD ] [ EUR ] [ GBP ]
    [US: 599] [=599=] [ 467 ] [ 317 ]
    [Eur:599] [ 768 ] [=599=] [ 406 ]
    [UK: 425] [ 803 ] [ 627 ] [=425=]
    Xbox360 Premium
    [Country] [ USD ] [ EUR ] [ GBP ]
    [US: 399] [=399=] [ 311 ] [ 211 ]
    [Eur:399] [ 512 ] [=399=] [ 271 ]
    [UK: 279] [ 527 ] [ 411 ] [=279=]
  • by CaymanIslandCarpedie ( 868408 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @01:38PM (#15367019) Journal
    The latest worldwide sales numbers are 1.7 million after six months.

    Wow, where do you get your numbers from? ;-) The confirmed numbers were 1.5 million sold (not shipped) in 2005 (so just over a month not 6 months). All of the later numbers I've been able to find are in MS's financial statements, but those tend to reference number shipped not sold. All other numbers are pretty much speculation, but the last somewhat solid numbers for units sold was something like 3.3 million through April (I think.. it was either March or April). Anyway, you are WAY off ;-)

    The backwards compatibility thing... well your retarded. Here [] is the list of original games supported on the 360 through March (and more added all the time). The only original xbox game I have which doesn't currently work is Morrowwind (and I have close to 50).

    Manufacturing defects are still rampant with the consensus putting the failure rate at 15-20 percent with huge numbers of people on their third, fourth, and fifth 360 units. And the most troubling is reports from 360 developers complaining about the graphics system which seems like it was never designed to handle 720p but instead 480p.

    Have any reputable links to back up either of those made up issues? Didn't think so. Sorry for feeding the troll! I was just a bit board.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, 2006 @01:48PM (#15367126)
    Look everyone! It's this guy [] again. In your previous post you actually admit your company has a financial interest in the PS3, which makes you rather biased.

    Look at it logically. EVERY other console the price of the PS3 has fucked up. Everywhere you look the PS3 is recieving nothing but critisism. Face it, it's destined for the shitter. Why don't you produce your games for the XBox 360 as well?

    Along with the MASSIVE power advantage the PS3 has over the Wii and 360, betting on Sony selling any less than they did this gen is silly.

    That would explain their success at E3 and the graphics that were better than the 360 wouldn't it? Oh.. wait..
  • by assantisz ( 881107 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @02:04PM (#15367280)
    We must not forget that the EU and UK prices include VAT (17.5% in the UK currently). The US price does not. Also, we have to add trade tariffs to the US price (which could be another 15% or so). I really doubt that anybody but the governments are milking the end customer.
  • by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @02:26PM (#15367494) Homepage Journal
    PS3 has one major difference to Neo Geo and 3DO: it's only on par with the competition, not leaps and bounds ahead as the various marketing types would have us believe.

    When Neo-Geo came out, we were still playing with 8-bit consoles. Neo-Geo was meant to basically be an arcade-level piece of equipment, and marketed to the class of people who could afford to stick a real Street-Fighter cabinet in their rumpus rooms, but who wanted to swap out games as easily as with a console. NG was even basically the same level of hardware as their arcade machine, which nobody believed could happen back then. And 3DO was a whole different animal, attempting some weirdass hybrid level of interactive video machine during the height of the FMV craze, before everyone had a PC with a CD-ROM.

    Sony, however, doesn't have much to push. Hardcore techies can go on about poly counts and HD, but your average Joe will be able to look at the same demo played on PS3, 360, or Wii and not see any noticeable level of graphical difference. This isn't an 80s arcade-vs-console battle, or even a SNES-vs-Genesis-vs-NES deal where anyone could see the extra detail and capability. The only noticeable difference to anyone without fanboyish loyalty to one brand over another or a particular exclusive killer app to look forward to, is the honking big price tag on one of them.

  • by hattig ( 47930 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @02:27PM (#15367512) Journal
    Note that european prices include VAT.

    UK VAT is 17.5%.
    EU prices vary between 17% and 25% IIRC.

    Sadly everyone picks a safe conversion rate, so instead of the current $1.87 == £1, they'll pick $1.70 to absorb any variancy in their favour.
  • by be-fan ( 61476 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @03:01PM (#15367802)
    BluRay brings a better picture iff you have a $2000+ TV

    Where do people get the idea that HDTV's still cost so much? You can get a 27" 1080i HDTV with an HDMI input and built-in tuner for $380 from Best Buy (probably even cheaper online). This is only about $80 more than the corresponding non-HDTV.
  • Re:Typical (Score:4, Informative)

    by Khaed ( 544779 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @03:08PM (#15367861)
    Actually, if you look at his other posts, he pretty much spends every gaming thread bitching about people shilling for Nintendo. If anything he is a fanboy, or at least a Nintendo hater. I thought "Gee, another guy complaining about people shilling for Nintendo... oh wait... that name is familiar..."

    Yeah, the guy thinks we're being paid, too. Just because I think $600 is crazy. If Nintendo was paying me I could afford a PS3.
  • by randomaxe ( 673239 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @03:08PM (#15367863)
    I'd estimate that 80% of Playstation 2s are hooked up to a small TV in some teenageers bedroom.

    Considering that the average age of gamers these days is ~30 years old, either your numbers or wrong, or you're estimating that a lot of adults live in teenagers' bedrooms.
  • by Chris Mattern ( 191822 ) on Friday May 19, 2006 @03:16PM (#15367936)
    > At least in the UK, they deliberately crippled the player by only allowing
    > it to output DVDs in composite.

    Guh-wha? Are you sure? Or did you just not get the right adapter (the PS2 has a
    proprietary video output jack that you need to plug an adapter cable into--if
    all you have the composite adapter cable, then composite is all you can do)?
    My PS2 here in the US does S-Video just fine, thank you very much.

    Chris Mattern

Machines that have broken down will work perfectly when the repairman arrives.