New WoW Alliance Race Revealed 109
Now.Imperfect writes "The New York Times is reporting that Blizzard has slated the Draenei to be the new Alliance race in the up-and-coming Burning Crusade expansion for World of Warcraft. The article also states that E3 visitors will also be able to test the new flying mount."
Should have figured. (Score:1)
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Re:Should have figured. (Score:2)
I'm all for it if it lowers the bg queues.
Hmmm... (Score:2)
Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm an Orc Shaman and we win in battlegrounds 90% of the time. My hope is that this will lift the level of Alliance players a little while encouracing more peope to try Horde characeters.
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
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On the one hand, they only need to push one button.
On the other hand, everybody thinks its the wrong damn button.
There is no way to win. I stopped playing my pally because I could never get any pvp respect. Jacked criticals using a fast two-hander and laying down the hate about as well as a paladin possibly can, and what do I get? "OMG Duud why ar3nt joo healing m3?! N00B! U suck wtf" People would whine and whine because I had no interest
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
Of course that is only for PvE and especially 5 man groups.
If you play WoW for PvP you have chosen the wrong game. Blizzard has totally killed PvP by overpowering attack compared to defense.
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
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Oh wait, did I say that?
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
Your character is driven by mana/energy/rage/whatever-makes-him-happy.
YOU are driven by... hate. And pretzels. And beer.
I've wished, many a time, that I could affect my character's healing, damage-dealing, speed, etc simply by shrieking and howling into the microphone. It sure seems to work on team members in teamspeak.
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:1, Insightful)
The parent poster most certainly knew what he signed up to play. The fact that it isn't what he wanted it to be is Blizzard's fault. The more you play WoW, the more apparent it becomes that no one on the Blizzard QA team actually played the content from the Alliance side, and soley focused on the Horde cla
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:4, Informative)
As for your assertion that shamans are superior to paladins...
In the PvE game, paladins are far superior to shamans. Four paladins can give more mana regen, more threat reduction, and more attack power to EVERY MEMBER OF THE RAID with blessings than eight shamans can with totems, and even without the greater blessings the blessings last longer than the totems. Paladins themselves have the most efficient, lowest threat heals in the game, and can remove three different kinds of debuffs with one fairly cheap spell. About all shamans have going for them is Windfury/Grace of Air, which only apply to the shaman's group and cannot be used at the same time as the threat reduction totem or each other.
In PvP, they're opposite sides of the same coin. Paladins are by far the dominant PvP healer class simply because of their survivability, and can leverage their heals and Cleanse to make their group that much more powerful, even if a paladin by himself isn't much of a threat. Shamans are an excellent offensive class with some capacity to heal and (against bad opponents) buff their groups.
The reason so many people think shamans are more poweful than paladins is because 90% of paladins keep thinking they're a warrior with healing spells, instead of using the rest of their abilities. It's like playing a hunter in PvP without a pet, or a druid without using forms.
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
over than that, a very much needed change in balance. i agree.
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You did say any
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:1)
well probably about as much as shadowmeld
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Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2, Insightful)
However your post makes it seam that alliance are full of idiots.
They both have good players and they both have non-thinking players.
The population imbalance just means its harder to find the good alliance players.
More likely though is that it will cause the Horde to slowly become more like the alliance as the new flood of blood elves hit the servers,
where the good players are harder to find amids all the lesser ones.
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60 gnome mage
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:1)
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Damn, can't the alliance do anything besides corpse camp lowbies?
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yea sure, 1 on 1 a shammy can beat a pally, I'd say 3 times out of 5 easily, all other things being equal. At the same time, 2 pallys in a pvp group is just fricking WRONG.
Considerin
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Prior to the (dis)Honor system and Battlegrounds, on most (especially PvP) servers, the Alliance used a lot of zerging to beat the Horde, and keep them from rising up in levels. The Horde would fight back, and once the numbers came close to a balance, the Alliance would run away because they had too much chance of dying.
Then came the (dis)Honor system. And the Alliance started to camp several key l
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
One of the things they did fix with the honor system is giving people dishonorable kills for killing non-pvp flagged quest givers, so that's not much of a problem anymore.
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It can't be the fault of shamans, because I have the same experience in BGs with no shamans.
Really, my experience across multiple servers and multiple brackets on each is that the alliance is just as
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:1)
Actually, no - Blood Elves cannot be Hunters (see here [wikipedia.org])
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Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:1)
However, the Horde already has 3 races that can be Hunters, while the Alliance only has 2. 4 of 5 races allowed to be Hunters on one faction is not too cool by my book.
That way the chart is now, the factions look pretty balanced with # of possible race/class combinations.
Re:Finally an Ugly Alliance Race and Pretty Horde! (Score:2)
Uh... there are four Alliance races at the moment. So if players were evenly distributed across the races, each race would end up with 25%.
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Wow... (Score:1)
For What It's Worth (Score:3, Informative)
In addition to Thottbot [thottbot.com] (quests) and Allakhazam [allakhazam.com] (pricing and searching), a lot of the WoW Wikis [theamazonbasin.com] out there provide for me a lot of my World of Warcraft information.
It seems they're introducing more "middle styled" races that are akin to the otherside. Perhaps they're planning to allow draenei to be warlock and blood elves to be palladins? This is all speculation but I know that I, for one, am very much looking forward to this expansion.
Re:For What It's Worth (Score:2)
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Re:For What It's Worth (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/09/technology/10wa
It has info on the race, profession choices, and much more. Very interesting read.
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Course, far be it from me to suggest they don't implement a 'Wandering Minstrel' class or somesuch.
Re:For What It's Worth (Score:3, Interesting)
Apologies to those who aren't familiar with the Warcraft Universe. I'm not typi
Ugh... They just Added That (Score:2)
In it the Demonic Eredar race corrupted Sargeras and now in the new burning crusade page it's Sargeras who corrupted them... god.
Re:For What It's Worth (Score:2)
I doubt they'll move the faction specific classes around...that's one of the few things that will drive you to play one side or the other. I was wondering for a while if we'd get new options for druid, but that seems to not be the case either.
Re:For What It's Worth (Score:2)
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Ah, talking out the arse, then? (Score:4, Insightful)
Having never played I can speak down upon your addiction with impunity but I do feel for you all...please get well soon."
So, you've never actually played something, you have no first-hand experience with it, but you feel qualified anyway to pass judgment upon it and compare it with a carrot in the stick. Pray tell, on what do you base that judgment, then?
_How_, pray tell, do you know then whether WoW is good or bad, and what do those players find in it? Maybe, just maybe, it's not just illogical addiction, but paying for a game that's every bit comparable to Oblivion as both complexity and fun factor go. In fact, to about 10-12 Oblivions, since it has a _lot_ more content to explore and enjoy.
WoW has its own issues, later, much later in the game. You need to play pretty damn intensively for a month or more before you get anywhere near the level where it becomes a carrot-on-a-stick exercise. Or more if you try playing more than one character. At which point you got more content for your money out of it than out of any SP RPG you can get for love or money nowadays.
Still, yes, it has them. But you've never experienced them. So even then I'll rather hear about them from other players who _do_ know first hand what they're talking about. Do you even know what the carrot _is_ in that metaphor you sling about? What do you bring to the table, other than some more noise to drown the useful signal with?
So, yeah, I feel for you. Get well soon. Talk to a competent psychiatrist about getting your head removed from your ass. And maybe, just maybe, try talking about stuff you have any clue about next time. Might keep you from looking like a trolling retard, for a change. Because even as trolling goes, this has got to be the most retarded form of it.
Re:Ah, talking out the arse, then? (Score:1)
In my experience a good proctologist is what you're looking for.
Hi. You're a bit off. (Score:3, Insightful)
I've never shot heroin into my cock, but I'm pretty sure that would be a Very Bad Idea. And I do feel qualified to say that.
Not completely disagreeing with you, but your point above isn't strong.
Re:Hi. You're a bit off. (Score:2)
See I think that is the parent's point, you have never tried H in your wee wee but yet you think it is a bad idea, in fact it might be a great idea and something you would love personally, but alas you will never know?
Don't knock it till you try it!
Re:Ah, talking out the arse, then? (Score:2)
It makes my mount go 3% faster! (Score:1)
Re:Ah, talking out the arse, then? (Score:1)
Just like any other game, then? (Score:5, Insightful)
Some people get addicted to it, yes. But then people get addicted to anything else. Including:
- counterstrike
- BSD/Linux/Amiga/obscure-programming-language debates
- Everquest2 (and unlike EQ1, I can't even really see what a couple of co-workers even see in EQ2, since it's mostly just a mediocre idea and badly executed)
- sex
- porn (see people who end up unable to stop browsing for it even at work, and then sue the employer for firing them)
- karma-whoring on Slashdot
Etc, etc, etc.
The problem isn't as much the game, as the people. Some people are the kind that just has to find refuge in something and, unsurprisingly, a good game will collect more of them than a bad one. So, yes, you're more likely to find them in WoW than in crap games like Anarchy Online or SWG.
And some people basically have an Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder, so they can't leave anything they haven't 100% finished. They _must_ have opened every single chest, killed every single boss and collected every single armour piece, before they can consider a game finished and move on. I can see how some MMOs would trap them, because they're games designed so you can't really finish them. The end-game grind in WoW is there precisely so you'd need at _least_ a year of doing the same thing over and over again before you're finally "finished".
Again, I'd "blame" the people not the game. (Well, not as much "blame" as have some compassion.) The same personality types do the exact same in other games too. E.g., I had a friend who simply _had_ to find every single chest, secret door and quest in such games as "Betrayal At Krondor". I remember that game particularly because he's explicitly fumed about not being sure if he covered 100% of an area, and there could be some chest he's missed. Or in games like Panzer General he'd save before moving each and every single unit, and reload if the dice-driven result was anything less than _perfect_. (Meaning his unit had to take exactly zero damage, and the enemy had to take exactly the maximum attack value of his unit.) Not because he couldn't have finished it otherwise, but because it _had_ to be perfect, if he could help it.
At any rate, I'd venture a guess that it's not really the game which turned them into that.
Is it just addiction and carrot-on-a-stick for everyone? I'd say I'm proof enough that it isn't, seein' as I'm not even playing it any more. Can't recall any withdrawal syndrome either. If you _don't_ approach it with some silly idea that it's like a marriage for life, or that you _must_ finish everything before you give up, giving it up is actually pretty darn easy. It's just a game. You've seen as much content as was enjoyable, and when it starts being consistently unenjoyable, it's goodbye and good riddance.
As for my comments about "trolling" or "noise drowning the signal", they're not about your having an opinion. It's about your passing a harsh judgment on something you just don't have the data to judge. Knowing one IT guy who's a WoW addict doesn't make you an expert in WoW, and, no, doesn't give you enough data to extrapolate about why everyone else is playing it. It's like knowing that some terrorist was from South America and did drugs, and deciding that surely all people in South America are terrorists and junkies. It's that uninformed a judgment. That's all.
Re:Just like any other game, then? (Score:2)
For most people, entertainment != addiction (Score:2)
Re:Fuzzy... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Fuzzy... (Score:4, Funny)
As you can clearly see [thottbot.com], there is no string.
Yeah, and you can trust the NYT too (Score:1, Interesting)
There is a leaked video from the E3 floor (filmed during setup). And it shows a video playing on the show floor, with the new alliance race -- which was originally misidentified as Draenei but was really Erador.
Nobody predicted it, because the Erador are evil demons. These (alliance) Erador are somehow the wisps that killed Archimonde (an Erador himself) at the end of WCIII, or something like that.
Either that, or someon
Re:Yeah, and you can trust the NYT too (Score:2)
WorldOfWarcraft.com is linking to the NYT article. Is that trustworthy enough for you?
haha, I think I'm wrong (Score:1)
Re:haha, I think I'm wrong (Score:1)
So... there's an explanation out there, anyway, odd though it may be.
Re:Yeah, and you can trust the NYT too (Score:1)
Official Draenei homepage (Score:2, Informative)
It also explains that the Draenei are the remnants of the Eredar race who chose not to become evil demons back when Sargeras was forming the burning crusade.
Armor (Score:1)
What ever happened to... (Score:1)
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Crap no pandaren!?! (Score:2)
Dude... (Score:2, Funny)
But I wanted pandaren. I would so have played a Pandaren. And then I'd attack every PvP and Penny Arcade player I could find. Cause... you know, giant panda.
Re:Dude... (Score:2)
*sigh*
Doesn't quite make sense (Score:2)
I was under the impression that The Broken (pic here [worldofwarcraft.com]) were the unmutated version of the Draenei. The new race pics [wowwiki.com] don't look anything like that. The head shape is all wrong, not to mention the number of fingers and the lack of a nose.
We need Blizzard's official announcement and press release to make sense of this, I think.
Re:Doesn't quite make sense (Score:2)
Re:Doesn't quite make sense (Score:2)
I was wrong! (Score:2)
But the new background lore of the Draenei is totally screwed up. The old lore said that the Eredar were corrupted and evil before Sargeras turned bad. But the new backstory says that the Eredar were corrupted by Sargeras.
They've got to fix it one way or another. Either way could have the Draenei splitting off.
slashdot priotities (Score:1)
HUrm. (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh.. wait... forgot who I was talking about.
It's a real shame to see what was a great backstory and lore in a gameworld being so shamelessly bend over and violated for the sake of fitting game dynamics they'd like into the game world.
Re:HUrm. (Score:1)
Too little, too late. (Score:1)
I left two months ago for that reason, and haven't looked back.
Re:Too little, too late. (Score:1)
Thankfully, I didn't play for the first year. I'm only 6 months into the game.
but will it? (Score:2)
The thing is there is such a huge difference in power between level 60 characters without epic gear and those with. Blizzard has released BWL, ZG and AQ all of which have very powerful items (OK ZG is more pain in the ass than getting epics from MC) and long term raiders have been at it for a year. How will they balance Burning Crusade content for both ha
Re:Too little, too late. (Score:1)
Supposed to be ogre (Score:2, Interesting)
Females need to be shown (Score:1)
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Another source of information.... (Score:1)
Or for the impatient, check the Draenei [worldofwarcraft.com] page directly.
It just blows my mind... (Score:2)
Blizzard fails it. (Score:1)