Cox May replace its own DVRs with TiVos 223
Controlio writes "According to a posting by user BrettStah on the TiVo Community Forums, Cox Cable is currently circulating a survey to gauge customer's interest in TiVo services. From the survey, 'While Cox currently offers its own DVR service, the Cox DVR may soon be powered by TiVo, and include the features that TiVo owners have come to expect. If Cox were to offer digital cable service with a TiVo branded DVR for about the same price as you are currently paying for satellite service each month, how likely would you be to switch from satellite TV to Cox cable that featured this TiVo branded DVR service?'"
Other interesting, Cox related news: (Score:3, Funny)
Frankly, Linux development has become impossible of late -- I spend far too much of my time and energy playing catch-up with Linus and his Lord-of-the-Flies approach to patching the Linux kernel. His criteria are based on what's shiny and novel rather than what's stable and needed. He's worse than a five-year-old in front of an Xbox. Such reckless practices threaten not only kernel stability and security but Linux mindshare as well. If we wanted to use unchecked code, we'd all be booting Windows.
For instance, just last week Linus and I both received a patch for SMP from Eric Raymond. My inclination was to fire up Pico and read through the code, gleaning what I could from comments and code-tracing, and then apply the patch to my test system and run stability tests. Eric isn't known for his programming prowess (though he'd have you think otherwise) and I'm not one to toy with such low-level chunks of the kernel. But while I was putting the new code through its paces, Linus had other ideas.
Before I could email Linus my first impression of Eric's patch, I received an instant message in ALL CAPS shouting about how he'd just committed the new code. I was incredulous, to say the least. There was no way he had time to manually parse through 384k of spaghetti code. Eric had no doubt been at the Jäger again and had made a grievous typo, having typed man(love) instead of main(). Had Linus taken the proper steps for integrating new kernel code, he would have caught that glaring error.
I am sick of cleaning up after Eric, but with Linus there is just no excuse.
Things weren't always like this. Linus used to take his time working on Linux, but when Linux started getting a lot of press coverage, he started getting sloppy. I understand the hectic schedule he had to endure with the interviews and press. But he let the fame go to his head at the expense of Linux kernel health. Going to work for TransMeta didn't help and moving up and down the West Coast only worsened the situation. Ironically, things haven't improved since he went to work for OSDL either.
After studying the GPL, conferencing with Linux vendors, and much soul-searching, I feel there's only one way improve this situation. Therefore, as of today, I am forking the Linux kernel. I will call it simply Cox, keeping with the x nomenclature common to Unix. And to ensure that hackers all over the world can have a stable operating system, I will be the head of Cox. I hope you, gentle reader, will support me in this ambitious new project to get Cox into users' hands as soon as possible.
The primary focus of Cox will be stability. Compared to Linux, Cox will be rock-hard. Another goal is security, and to that end Cox will fill as many holes as possible, and any bugs or viruses in Cox will be dealt with swiftly. Cox will also not leak nearly as badly as Linux does with its memory. Cox will also strain to avoid the hairy mess of incompatibilities Linux is infamous for. The net result of these improvements is that users will reach for Cox just as robust as when it first went up. Cox will have longer uptimes than Linux.
In all honesty, Cox will likely split the Linux community in half. But the sacrifice will be worth it. Users will wonder what they ever did before they went with Cox. Linus will one day come face-to-face with Cox and realize what he has been missing all these years. After speaking with Richard Stallman, another huge fan of Cox, I agreed to keep the kernel under the GPL. He assured me that the GPL was the best way to disseminate Cox. Richard seemed quite eager to install Cox in his back-end!
I hope the latent interest in Cox among Linux developers will soon become a driving obsession.
Thank you.
I would switch. (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not entirely fair to offer an opinion, I have never seen or used the Cox PVR. My experience has been there are few pretenders to the throne that even come close to Tivo's quality of service.
Tivo pioneered the user experience for PVR viewing, and from their first offering (which I purchased and actually returned -- it was not quite ready for prime time then) which was very good they have steadily improved their already leading product.
For those who may care, here is one of my earlier posts on tivo features vs Comcast [slashdot.org].
If I had the option and was a Cox subscriber, not only would I ask for the swap for similar pricing, I'd be happy to pay a premium. Tivo is that good, and what I've seen of other offerings is that bad! (I recently visited neighbors who had their new Dish PVR. While I'd wished a Tivo for them, I was happy for their new window into PVR viewing. I tried to walk them through the simplest setups: record one show, pause live TV, etc., but even I found the interface clunky, intrusive, inconsistent, and obfuscated. It bordered on unusable. I was able to figure it out, but it was a RPITA to use. And, before anyone points out I had to "learn" how to use the tivo, too, that really wasn't true. The litmus test for me for entertainment gadgets is that I be able to use it out-of-the-box with no instruction manual reading. Tivo is usable from the get-go.)
If I lived in a region where I had some OTHER cable service, and heard Cox was offering PVR with Tivo, I'd switch.
Good luck, Tivo...
Re:I would switch. (Score:2, Insightful)
Besides those two gripes, the service is great. It
My thoughts on PVC (Score:3, Funny)
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The best part of slashdot when when comments like this are +5 Insightful!
Funny != Insightful (Score:2, Funny)
*sigh* This is the problem of using the general (posting) public for moderation.
To quote George Carlin: "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize half the people are DUMBER THAN THAT!"
Re:Funny != Insightful (Score:2)
However, some moderators feel that those who lighten the mood and cheer up their day deserve Karma, so they moderate funny posts as Insightful or somesuch.
I expect that, in metamoderation, Insightful moderations on posts that aren't get swatted down. Those moderators would thus end up getting mod points less often, and the effect is mitigated.
Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
I've had Ultimate TV for a few years now and I really dread losing it. Everyone I know who has had UTV boxes holds on to them for dear life--and I haven't heard those who have had to switch away bragging happily about their new systems.
Re:I would switch. (Score:4, Insightful)
My experience includes both DirecTV's Tivo Box and Dish Network's DVR. And, in the end, it is a tie. Both services are good. Both have nice features (including the ability to skip ahead 30 seconds and the ability to jump ahead in five or ten minute increments). Both record what I want, when I want. The Dish box has a bigger hard drive, but that is probably because it is a new box. And, the Dish box has the ability to add an extra few minutes of recording to a show, if I desire (for those of us that LOVE the ABC show Lost, you know that ABC has a bad habit of extending the show past 10pm ET -- I can't tell you how many times I missed the last two minutes of episodes because my Tivo stopped recording at 10pm).
So, in the end, to me the issue is not whether or not Cox is offering Tivo. The DVR v. Tivo battle is a draw. The issue is do I want to leave Satellite TV heaven and return to cable TV hell? Do I want to pay more for lower levels of customer service? And the answer is a resounding "No!".
Satellite TV is still head and shoulders above cable TV. And, it is cheaper.
Re:I would switch. (Score:3, Informative)
I have DirecTV's TiVo box, and it has the exact same feature. You can add anywhere from 1 minute to 3 hours on to the end of a show, which is awesome for recording sporting events that may go into overtime.
TiVo is great. The only complaint I have is that the response times are very very slow. The slowness of the channel guide is particularly maddening, although the ability to filter out all the shopping, PPV, and non-subs
Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
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Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
I've never used a Tivo.
I'm guessing that they are going for brand recognition. I've had Cox HD-DVR service, and I loved it. My only real beef was that it would store multiple episodes by the same title on the box when you told it to record all of the shows and repeats. There was not an option like "I really, only need one copy of this".
I'm a picky SOB, and
Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
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Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
Hmm... yeah I have HBO so I need the box I think... Maybe I can run it without the box if I just get extended basic... well, we'll find out once the Sopranos season is over, thanks for the tip!
Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
Re:I would switch. (Score:2)
Having my Tivo learn what types of shows, actors, and even directors I like and having it record "Suggestions" on spare device space, things that o
Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:3, Insightful)
+1 insightful -- You're right, this has nothing to do with Generic DVR vs. TiVO. This is Cox getting a hold of TiVO, and advertising it to prospective customers by means of what is effectively a push poll. Crafty.
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:2)
Didn't Comcast do this years ago? When do I get to replace my POS Comcast DVR with a Tivo already?
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:5, Informative)
1. I call Comcast. They tell me that an HD tuner and service is already in my plan, and all I need to do is pick one up at the office. When I show up (It's a 20 minute drive), they tell me that they're out. But they'll call me when they come in.
2. I check in after a couple of weeks. The person at Comcast says, "Oh - no, they're not gonna call you. You have to keep calling us." "Great. Hey - does my office have these HD tuners in yet?" "Yes!" Except when I get there, it turns out they don't, and haven't for days. I pitch a hissy fit, and they give me an "all in one" box (HD + DVR), promising not to charge me for the DVR part. I leave, mollified. The box doesn't work.
3. Guy from Comcast shows up... 8 days later. "Yup, it's broken," he says. He swaps the DVR out with a brand new box. Beautiful high-definition television, complete with DVR functionality! It works! For a few hours, anyway. That evening, the hard drive (or something) on the device starts making a clicking noise. The DVR part no longer works.
4. Guy from Comcast shows up... another TWO WEEKS LATER. He starts to swap out the box, discovers that the new one he has doesn't work at all, and puts the old one back. "It's a real problem," he admits. "All the techs just had a meeting about it. We unplug the units from the network to take them out, something changes in their config, and they have to be taken back to the office." Great. "Call to schedule another appointment in a couple of weeks."
5. I schedule another appointment. I call out from work to be there. Then someone leaves a message on the answering machine saying... they're out of set-top boxes again, and I've stayed home for nothing.
Fuck Comcast, right in their fucking eye.
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:2)
They used to be reasonably good about making appointments, keeping them, and double checking that everything was okay. And then out of the blue, they basically decided to give up on customer service.
I had a comcast cable internet service out of commission for a month. They kept insisting they had already been there and it already worked, but I had a feeling it was just so the trouble ticket never looked like it was open more than a day or two.
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:2)
This is why people switched TO sattelite TV FROM cable TV.
The "cable guy" movie was a documentary.
Re:Is it TiVo vs. DVR...or cable vs. satellite? (Score:2)
Two questions (Score:5, Insightful)
1. Is this "crippled" in any way, or is it a real Tivo?
2. Does it plug into the Digital cable, or just the regular analog?
I have a Tivo now, but another one would be useful (since my wife likes the American Idol shows, and I - don't). But if Cox is considering this, especially in wake of the recent Tivo/Echostar (if I remember correctly) lawsuit, Cox could save money on development, say "You know, the control isn't worth the hassle" (which would be called "buying a clue"), and Tivo could get more customers. Everybody wins, even the cable customers.
Which is why I'm looking outside the window for those damn flying pigs.
Re:Two questions (Score:3, Interesting)
So you would get the nice TiVo interface and feature set on the Motorola box. You might not get the networking features standalone TiVo users have become accustomed to, nor the "hackability" of older TiVo boxes.
An alternative would be the TiVo Series
Re:Two questions (Score:3, Insightful)
It bothered me so much I returned the unit and bought a Lite-ON DVD recorder with hard drive instead.
TiVO will not be free without a premium being charged, or COX will simply up your monthly rate by a unnoticable $13.95 a month.
I would switch (Score:2, Funny)
tivo all the stuff automatically? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:tivo all the stuff automatically? (Score:2)
Now way, unless I could purchase it, and it was HD (Score:3, Informative)
No thank you, I will keep my current Satellite Tivo, which I own, and can do whatever I want with (like upgrade the hard drive, add web interface, etc..)
Now if I could purchase the Tivo from Cox for X amount of dollars, and the unit supported HD TV recording, I would maybe consider it.
No Hacking for new customers (Score:2)
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Re:No Hacking for new customers (Score:2, Informative)
It's not necessarily a bad thing. Leasing the equipment will always guarantee you free replacement hardware and upgrades in the future. So instead of dropping $500 on a box you spend $5 a month (or whatever)... that's much more cost efficient! It'd take you around 8 years to get a return on your purchase of the equipm
Think of the Tinkerers (Score:2)
Why should tinkerers be treated like second class citezens? we arent stealing HBO (which oddly enough I actually have, and PAY FOR) or PPV events; we just want to tinker!
Think of it like a car; want to get back and forth to work/achool/church and that is it, then leasing may be a good dea
Come to expect what? (Score:4, Informative)
1) The Tivo will download "recommendations" (which I have yet to ever use). Advantage: Tivo (I guess)
2) The DVR has a way better guide that has a nice preview screen (Advantage: DVR)
3) The DVR has two-channel capability (watch one show while the other records). Advantage: DVR
4) The Tivo has to use the serial input, which makes channel changing slow, versus the DVR which is integrated with the cable box. Advantage: DVR
5) The DVR can do HDTV. Advantage: DVR (those I suppose these new Tivos might do it)
6) The user interface on the Tivo is way simpler. Advantage: Tivo.
All in all, I'd say my existing DVR is way better than the Tivo, though if they added what's good about the DVR, maybe it would be OK. I suppose my point is that the Tivo isn't so far ahead of the DVR that it's going to make some huge difference.
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:5, Informative)
1) same
2) Subjective
3) tie
4) tie
5) tie
6) same
So the only catagory the DVR might be better at would be the guide interface. As a long time user of Tivo I use the my recordings a lot more than guide and like ther overlayed look. The Direct Tivo's can do a picture in a window similar to your DVR but thats personal preferance though having the option is good. Now for the rest of the features.
Tivo can move recodings off the tivo onto the server.
Tivo can talk to other tivo's in the same house and move recodings around.
Tivo can access content on your pc for playback on your TV. (Think rip all your DVD's and never have to touch them again)
Tivo allows you to access 3rd party applications.
Tivo will stream internet sources and MP3's
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
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Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
Tivo can talk to other tivo's in the same house and move recodings around.
Yes, but it's godawful slow at network access. A one-hour show takes about one hour to move to another Tivo or to a PC. Moving the same file from one PC to another takes about one-tenth the time.
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
Slow and clunky? (Score:2)
I've had my DirecTiVo for almost 3 years now and it has always had this capability. (and from what I heard before I bought it, it had this functionality long before then too.)
Not only can you record 2 different channels at the same time, you can watch a third [previously recorded] show at the same time as recording those 2 different channels as well.
As for the "boops"... I got used to it after a day or two. It's really not that
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
Err... What about ReplayTV (Score:2, Informative)
ReplayTV, perviously SonicBlue, has always come with an ethernet port. It doesn't need a phone line to update if you have a broadband connection, and you can watch or backup your shows from your computer on the LAN.
Re:Err... What about ReplayTV (Score:2)
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
30 second skip.
any DVR without that sucks. I am not going to fast foreward through the commercials, I am going to simply pop past them.
Its the only reason that I dumped TiVO for ReplayTV. (yes, I know you can hack the 30 second skip back in.)
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
You're right, I should've mentioned that one. The truth is, my DVR's fast-forward mode is pretty well designed. When you stop it, it flips back 10 seconds. The fast forward is so fast then I can typically skip past everything in 3 or 4 seconds. I think it actually works out better than the 30 second skip, though I have to pay more attention. The FF on the Tivo doesn't seem to work as well, though I can't at this second d
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
Hack?
Only if you consider hitting a quick sequence of buttons on your remote control ( select-play-3-0-select ) once per reboot of the TiVo hacking, I guess. It's more like a cheat code.
It's a little annoying, I suppose, but it's highly disingenuous to claim that TiVo doesn't have the feature - I use it every day, and friends with TiVos are always glad to learn about it and start using it as soon as they're shown the sequence.
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
I have a TiVo and I don't even bother with the code.. the FFWD feature is fine for me, and I'm not even using their remote (which would be even nicer, I use a Philips TSU500 LCD remote without tactile feedback) I just press FFWD 3 times to get it up to max speed, once I see the show I hit it one more time and it goes back to pla
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
And offers more recording options in general. Advatage: Very much TiVo.
2) The DVR has a way better guide that has a nice preview screen (Advantage: DVR)
OK. Valid point. Advatage DVR.
3) The DVR has two-channel capability (watch one show while the other records). Advantage: DVR
TiVo has tons of multi-tuner models already in use for DirectTV, for instance. Advantage No one.
4) The Tivo has to use the serial i
Re:Come to expect what? (Score:2)
The Guide and other live TV functions are features I almost never use, since I almost never watch live TV. For me the value of Tivo is how well it can record what I want (wish lists, season passes) and the ease of use in doing so and playing the recordings back.
Admittedly the standalone hardware is pretty much obsolete; serial/IR channel changing, analog-only audio a
Tivo Branding (Score:2)
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if only Time Warner would switch... (Score:2)
Just to give a single example, suppose you're watching a show. Another show is scheduled to record, and it tells you it's going to have to switch the chann
Re:if only Time Warner would switch... (Score:2)
I'd been hoping for TiVo to get on the Cablecard bandwagon until the clarifications were posted on ArsTechnica
Re:if only Time Warner would switch... (Score:2)
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Re:if only Time Warner would switch... (Score:2)
A) Asks you if you would like to change the channel
B) Allows you to say "No, don't change the channel"
C)
This is a bug. I had my TiVo for around five years before getting the Time Warner box, so I know how a DVR is supposed to work. The TiVo also asked if you would like to change channels, but amazingly enough actually listened to the answer.
Re:if only Time Warner would switch... (Score:2)
On my boxes (which I believe are Explorer 8000HDs)
Cox DVR SUCKS! (Score:2, Interesting)
I've been through three. All of them like to spontaneously reboot themselves, especially while in the middle of recording a show (which is subsequently lost as the box spends 5 minutes booting up).
If you start playback of a program that is being recorded, the DVR will stop when the program is finished recording, and throw you right back to the beginning of the program so you have to fast-forward to where you were. Maybe they fixed thi
Re:Cox DVR SUCKS! (Score:2)
I like what it does, but it's kinda a pain in the ass.
Re:Cox DVR SUCKS! (Score:2)
When fastforwarding, the audio will frequently lose sync with the video, and you'll have to rewind a bit to get try and get it to sync back up again.
The "record only new episodes" feature should be renamed to "record anything in this timeslot, or nothing at all, whichever is more annoying".
No 30 second skip forward.
Sometimes after fast forwarding, it takes a good 5-10 seconds for the audio to come back on.
Explanation of any of the video output settings are horrible. All it says is "Upconvert-1"
Re:Cox DVR SUCKS! (Score:2)
Ah, you apparently received one of the functional models. Consider yourself lucky that it works well enough to compare with TiVo.
The horror stories range from them simply not working at all (regardless of how many times the customer has the unit grudgingly replaced by a tech who mumbles about "signal quality" and "poor power in this area"); to the DVR randomly recording whatever the hell it wants (and of course, not recording what
If it supported HD... (Score:2)
So, IF:
1. I could get full quality HD channels
2. I could expand the disk capacity
or
1. It was setup to allow me to archive shows (fat chance)
Then I would swi
The real story (Score:2)
The real story here isn't that Cox may slap the Tivo name on their DVRs. It's that they may be thinking about dropping their hideously high prices. For Cox to offer what I used to pay a month for satellite plus the cost of Tivo t
Cox Digital is Analog (Score:2)
In December 2003 I bought a 56" DLP HDTV. I plugged in my Cox digital cable, and the flaws of the analog signal (especially the ghosting) were so bad, I ordered dish network's HD package the next day. The pict
Tivo is the reason I chose DirecTV over cable (Score:3, Insightful)
If I ever went back to cable, the deal would have to include a Tivo that had the same features as DirecTV's implementation (including the ability to record two streams)...and no, I'm not into a standalone Tivo, mostly because of the subscription and the fact that it needs a separate receiver. Too complex. I like the simplicity of having two tuners built into the Tivo itself. DirecTV has a great solution.
Re:Tivo is the reason I chose DirecTV over cable (Score:3, Insightful)
What I want is SA features on DTVs network. Oh, and world peace. Is that too much to ask?
Makes sense, sort of (Score:2)
I don't care (Score:3, Informative)
I'll admit that I havn't really played with a tivo, and I'm sure there are many services that it has which I might like, but honestly, I'm very busy and Cox's DVR does everything I want, anything more would add to the indulgence.
What I WOULD like to see from Cox is an improvement to their video on demand. Its flaky at best. The few times that I tried to order a movie from them, the movie died out and no one from their side could figure it out and I've given up from doing that again, which sucks because the convienance is incredible. I don't have time to go to blockbuster/hollywood video (actually I long since gave up on them for many reasons). And I loved using netflix, but now I don't have time to watch as money movies as they send me, so its a waste. I just want to pick a movie every now and then and just pay for it, and video on demand is exacly that.
Before Cox decides on switching Tivo (can't wait for the price to increase, joy), they need to fix what they already have.
A Deal that's No Deal (Score:2)
What is the incentive besides the TiVo name? I don't see it. It's a deal that's no real deal. Is this a real Slashdot question, or a marketing survey for Cox?
My switch point would be (and I don't live in a Cox area, but do receive satellite w/DV
Re:A Deal that's No Deal (Score:3, Informative)
Wow! How do you pack so much misinformation in one sentence?
You can enable 30 second skip on all models they have ever sold.
Tivo has never forced anyone to watch commercials.
If your Tivo is out of disk space it will remove the oldest recording that it is allowed to delete and reuse that space. If all of your recordings are marked "Keep until I delete" it will warn you (in advance) th
Re:A Deal that's No Deal - 1 Win, 1 Loss (Score:2)
Which used to be standard, and now they hide against the day it can be removed altogether.
If your Tivo is out of disk space it will remove the oldest recording that it is allowed to delete and reuse that space.
You got me there. I meant to refer to the "feature" where TiVo will now refuse to record some programs at all if it sees the proper "flag" in the broadcast stream. My DVR still records everything I ask of it without question.
The best hardware site for the Tivo hacker (Score:2)
Slow Interface?
No network connectivity?
These guys have the kits and instructions even -my- Dad could follow.
9th Tee Tivo Upgrades [9thtee.com]I switched to satellite for TiVo (Score:2)
I'd switch back to cable in a heartbeat if I could get a dual tuner HD TiVo. My experience with non-TiVo PVRs has been fairly negative. I don't have Cox in my area, but I understand that th
Re:I switched to satellite for TiVo (Score:2)
Of course, it's vapor
Thats a tough one (Score:2)
Short term good but long term bad for TiVo? (Score:5, Interesting)
I see a possible future for TiVo. I can download vblogs today, re-encode them to MPEG2 using VLC player, and hang them out on a share on the media server. I watch most of the vblogs on my TV now. Thanks to an RSS feed to the cartoons in the internet archive; the kids occasionally download an old superman cartoon and watch it. They didn't think twice about the concept of asking for a show, waiting for it to download, and then having it whenever they want it. This could be the future of TiVo.
Somewhere in a lab, TiVo has to be playing with TiVo Desktop with built-in torrent ability. If TiVo Desktop could do torrents, TiVo could have a new revenue stream by allowing content providers to register their content with TiVo. TiVo would host the tracker and desktop would download and share. Before you could play the video, you would need to download a key from TiVo. Bingo - instant subscription video. If TiVo also added the ability to insert custom commercials into the video, that would be all the better. You don't have to pay for the subscription, but you can't fast forward through the commercials. If the commercials were given to me based on my demographics and I had the ability to thumbs down any commercial I did not like, I would go for that!
TiVo embracing IPTV could change the face of "television". Anyone with a decent camera and a cast could create content with the possibility of a profit. Independent TV would spread as fast as cheap digital cameras have spread independent film! The old 500 channels analogy would become a joke.
But I don't think this will ever happen. Why? Because of the players TiVo is cutting deals with. Hey, I understand why they are doing it -- they have to pay the bills today! But once the deal is done, I don't think Cox and Comcast are going to appreciate TiVo pulling eyeballs away from cable TV to get their video broadband through TiVo. Then again, maybe this is a two-way hedge. Maybe the cable companies are seeing where IPTV *could* go and are putting a backup plan in place where they are still the pipe the video flows through.
All I can say is that the technology is not there today. If everything we are told about the TiVo 3 is true, I think we would only be a bittorrent enabled version of TiVo Desktop away from the start of something huge, but just like DIRECTV would not enable the HMO functionality for the DirecTiVo, I don't see cable companies being too keen on losing viewers (and thus ad revenue) to someone who needs them to survive.
Re:Short term good but long term bad for TiVo? (Score:2)
I use the COX PVR (Score:2)
My cox PVR can record two shows simultaneously in HD... I don't even think TIVO makes a model that can record a single HD signal yet, although the upcoming TIVO will have all of these features.
The cox box isn't as feature rich as a tivo, it just has basic recoding and scheduling ability, HDMI outputs, and dual HD tuners. Also a very convienent button i
This is good.... (Score:2)
I would totally switch (Score:2)
Sounds like another Cox and bull story (Score:2)
Cox DVR from a user point of view (Score:2)
The unit in my market (OK) was a Motorola DCT6412 [motorola.com]. It has dual tuners, a 120GB HDD and HDTV support.
The first unit lasted only a month or so before the output would lock up. Initially it could be fixed by to a different channel and then back again but eventually it got too annoying. It would also reboot itself randomly. It got rather warm even with plenty of ven
Another Cox clusterfark in the making (Score:2)
Stupid: letting installers user RG-59, refusing to do simple maintenance of the plant, etc.
Smart: upgrading to 15x2Mbps DOCSIS2, PVR, high-def, VoD, more channels than Dish or Direct, etc.
Stupid-to-be: changing to Tivo, going along with ending net neutraility and throttling of traffic at whim, etc.
Smart-to-be: up
Related to TiVo lawsuit? (Score:2)
TOTALLY SWITCH DEPENDING on Dual Tuner Tivo Option (Score:2)
But if they were to make the dual tuner TIVO happen with Cox' service. I
Re:All the more reason (Score:2)
That said, I built one, and I'm about to build a second and seperate front end. Why? For the same reason people climb mountains:
Because it's there.
Re:Scientific Atlanta vs Motorola (Score:2)
Re:Scientific Atlanta vs Motorola (Score:2)
Re:Scientific Atlanta vs Motorola (Score:2)
but it is not more intuitive. It took me a while to
figure all that out. The SA system does have more
buttons, and is more "clunky" but the affordances are
better. I have pretty consistently had a harder time
finding some piece of functionality on the Tivo, until
I have learned the Tivo way.
I have both a DirectTivo, and an SA8300.
Que the "you must be an idiot" posts in 3.. 2.. 1..
Re:wtf? (Score:2)