Ubuntu 6.06 'Dapper Drake' Beta Available 90
Beuno writes "Ubuntu 6.06, aka 'Dapper Drake' has just gone into a stable Beta phase after 5 very successful Alpha versions. There have been a ton of improvements ranging from a new spiffy graphical installation, Gnome 2.14.1, Kernel 2.6.15.6, X.org 7 and a new and improved caramel colored theme. The server version has had kernel tweaks and an easy LAMP installation. A full list of new features and screenshots and be found at the official site. Downloads at the usual place, just try to use torrents please."
Re:Yeah! (Score:1)
Best Bug Report Evar! (Score:5, Funny)
It's nice to see a distro with a sense of humour. I especially like that the severity is set to critical.
Re:Best Bug Report Evar! (Score:2)
Re:Best Bug Report Evar! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Best Bug Report Evar! (Score:1)
Re:Best Bug Report Evar! (Score:2)
Upgrade from Breezy - FTA (Score:5, Interesting)
And the update manager gets the beta for your existing Breezy install. Just tried it on one box, and it worked without a hitch. Each round of upgrades gets a little smoother. I was worried about the 6-month release cycle when Ubuntu first announced it, but the ease of transition lately has made this a non-issue, at least for me.
Re:Upgrade from Breezy - FTA (Score:2)
Edit your
Damn kids and your GUIs...
What does Ubuntu have... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm really curious. All the 'why I use Ubuntu' type opinions i've read seem to be focused at the n00b. What's in it for a the more experienced Linux user (but not a mad bash hacking pro)?
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:3, Interesting)
The last attempt I had at installing Ubuntu Breezy was a disaster, the partitioning situation was pretty poor (I already had 3 primary partitions, 1 windows, 1 freebsd and 1 extended and the Ubuntu installer couldn't seem to cope with it) and then after the thing was installed it refused to boot (just hung).
Things for me 'just work' just fine wi
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:3, Informative)
If you've already made up your mind and like a distro, quirks and all, chances are you won't really get any new, instant, where-have-you-been-all-my-life gratification from another distro, even a quality, polished distro like Ubuntu. Gentoo is also a quality and polished distro, just aimed at a techier crowd then Ubuntu.
Me, I like slackware or debian. But I recommend Ubuntu to my firends and family that don't know or care what "
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
the two weeks it took to setup and compile your system, among other things.
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:2, Insightful)
It Just Works©
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
Not quite so good. (Score:2)
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:5, Insightful)
Does a 'n00b' system admin run Debian?
not usually.
Debian is preferred because
(a) "apt-get" makes life so blindingly simple that you don't need to worry about 90% of the hassels that come with other distros (rpm-hell anyone?)
(b) It's stable
(c) "It Just Works!" (tm)
Ubuntu is: ALL the best of Debain + Quicker updates.
How long did it take for Debain to support SATA in the stable release? Too damn long!
Ubuntu is not totally user friendly, ie it wasn't untill Dapper that there was a GUI for setting up a pppoe internet connection. (try telling Mom to: open a terminal, type pppoe-conf, and follow the prompts.)
Sounds great on paper.
My mom, Uncle x2, wife, Mother & Father in-laws, and CLIENTS all run Ubuntu because it is easier for me to manage/admin.
I'm not a n00b. I got desperately tired of waiting for Debian Stable. Now I have all the good of Debian + modern packages.
Re:What does Ubuntu have... n00bs are good stuff (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What does Ubuntu have... n00bs are good stuff (Score:1)
Yes. Yes, it would.
(Proudly answering rhetorcal questions for 29 years.)
Re:Cannot resist (Score:2)
Wouldn't it be nice to run the same system as everyone else you know
Don't know, but around 90% of the users seem to agree with you...
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:2)
Actually, my current Ubuntu system is a direct descendant of the original debian I installed in 1997. I have *never* reinstalled the system; tells something about the quality of debian and apt-get dist-upgrade! When getting new hardware it's just much simpler to cp -a the existing system, edit fstab and t
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:5, Insightful)
Only speaking for myself and others like me (which may not be much different to yourself judging by your description) ubuntu comes with a lot less fucking-about-with-inanities than other distros.
I like that I installed dapper and everything worked. I don't mean "it booted to a desktop and I needed minimal fiddling to get my camera working, oh and sometimes sound drops out but I got that fixed in half an hour... and I can't use my music player yet cos it won't mount", I mean I can install it and there's everything working and working well.
Don't get me wrong, I do like to jump down into the OS and screw about with things from time to time. I figure if I want to do things unique to myself that's what I'm going to have to do, and any linux distro will give me that. It's just the core simple things that I feel any OS should do well out of the box that many other distros have missed. They've come mighty close, but don't QUITE get there fully. Like installing SuSE and not having sound working like it should. Like installing debian and having an endless argument with fonts. Like installing fedora and finding it plays downloaded movies fine, but the ones from my camera are missing audio... even if they play audio fine on linspire but the video skips frames. It's those little core things that are so braindead simple they should always work first go, that when they don't they make me really feel like I'm working for the other distros when I have to screw around to get them working, instead of the distro working for me.
Recent Ubuntus have been the only ones that are fuss-free for what I consider those core elements of a desktop machine. Other people might have different core wants of course, and different hardware that other distros handle better - but meh, I'm not those other people. Works for me.
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
Worked out of the box:
- Laptop integrated video.
- Sound.
- Sleep and hibernate. Dapper is the first non-Windows OS I've tried that could do both of these; previous Linux versions I'd tried lost data on sleep. Better updating when waking up (eg, laptop doesn't think it's still plugged in after waking up).
- CPU frequency scaling.
- Most Toshiba magic b
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:2)
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:3, Interesting)
Here are some things Ubuntu has that (many) other distributions don't:
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:3, Informative)
The package management has all the ease of Gentoo's 'emerge,' but without the compiling. Plus, you don't have to worry about something breaking
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:1)
I do think Ubuntu is forcing other distros into better package and update management. FC4 had pretty terrible features out of the box, but FC5 is a lot better. So, while not everyone loves Ubuntu, they've been a factor in increasing usablity.
See Debian. (Score:3, Insightful)
But the real differences aren't in the software. It's the attitude and community. Ubuntu loves you. Ubuntu is your friend. It smiles when you see it on the street. Those behind Ub
Re:See Debian. (Score:1)
Re:See Debian. (Score:2)
In 2003 , back when I used Windows, and wasn't that geeky at all, I installed an 'alternative' browser at hte recommendation of my brother. This was Firebird 0.7. I liked it. It was faster than IE. He showed me how to use the tabs (using TBE) and how it blocked ads (adblock). I was impressed by the good many geeky features that made it use
Re:See Debian. (Score:2)
I still think FF is the Browser with the most geeky features. It's just that they put them as extentions instead so it doesn't flood the browser with features.
Re:See Debian. (Score:2)
The current implementation is useless, because you don't know *if* there is an alternate stylesheet avaliable, because there's no visible icon. No-one goes to habitually look in view
Re:See Debian. (Score:2)
I imagine if there isn't one you could use GreaseMonkey to hack something together which would show (on the page) if there were alternative presentations available.
Good hunting, and I'd look at web developer plugins as well. They may have the functionality built in.
Re:See Debian. (Score:1)
I totally agree! I _don't_ want web pages to fling up windows in my face against my will. Not tabs either, for that matter, but it's better than new windows. I do arrange my tabs in multiple windows sometimes, though, when I
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:2)
I'm a CS major, and I do basically all my development on Linux. It's been pretty much the most cooperative distro I've ever run across. Cooperative when I want to do something advanced, and cooperative when I don't (as in "I don't want to manually config ALSA").
Re:What does Ubuntu have... (Score:2)
Why Ubuntu wins for me.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Why Ubuntu wins for me.... (Score:2)
I finally got tired of Windows crap and decide to go all FOSS and switched my laptop to Linux. First distro I used was SuSE. I bought it just before Novell b
Re:What is with this (Score:1)
Secondly, Ubuntu does not "use" gnome. It uses whatever desktop environment you wish to have. I
Re:What is with this (Score:2)
sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
Alpha, Beta, or Final? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm very very impressed, IMHO Mark and the Ubuntu gang are going places in hurry if they keep this up. So the question that comes to my mind now is, would I install this on my mom's computer for her to use 24/7? My answer is I don't t think I would on this release (flight 6) but I will as soon as the final comes out in June, and that's
Re:Alpha, Beta, or Final? (Score:2)
When you are developing software from scratch, those can take on different meanings. Even if you use the same general points of demarcation (beta
filename says beta (Score:2)
I am going to be installing this on my aunt's machine, but only because she's going to be in town next week, and won't be in June. I'd rather wait, but sometimes one has to strike while the iron is hot. I expect it to be a major improvement ov
Re:Alpha, Beta, or Final? (Score:2)
Ubuntu tells me it's a beta when I log in (splash screen says Ubuntu Dapper Beta). Maybe you accidently downloaded an old version? The beta is downloadable here. [ubuntu.com]
Re:Alpha, Beta, or Final? (Score:2)
Cheers,
Styles
I'd download it... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, wait... Wrong distro joke.
Eewy GUI (Score:3, Insightful)
Ubuntu-Server, no GUI needed. (Score:2)
I'm probably a "techie" and I don't believe that the GUI is the most important part.
But with Ubuntu, I can install a "server" version and skip the GUI.
Or I can do a regular install and get a nice GUI. This is great for workstations.
With Ubuntu, you no longer need to choose between "stable system" and "nice GUI". You get them BOTH.
Re:Ubuntu-Server, no GUI needed. (Score:1)
Re:Eewy GUI (Score:3, Insightful)
Probably because anyone who knows what a kernel is can install whatever one they want on any distro. A really pollished (not just pretty but actually works right) GUI is a lot harder to graft on to a distro that doesn't already have it.
Re:Eewy GUI (Score:4, Insightful)
Technically it is mostly finished, but lots of work still needs to be done to improve ease of use. Hence, that's where the excitement is.
Check out the review at madpenguin (Score:1)
http://tinyurl.com/j3hyq [tinyurl.com]
just try to use torrents please (Score:1)
Re:just try to use torrents please (Score:1)
Just updated... (Score:2)
Still shipping unstable CVS dumps as packages ? (Score:1)
Last time I checked on Breezy Badger they were still including packages from CVS dumps.
As an example:
The Ruby 1.8.3 package which comes with Breezy Badger was a CVS dump from several months before Ruby 1.8.3 was released. No wonder it worked like shit. The really wierd thing is they called it 1.8.3 when it in fact was just a CVS dump. Almost a year later and they still hadn't updated it.
Proof:
$ ruby --version
ruby 1.8.3 (2005-06-23) [i486-linux]
Ruby 1.8.3 was re
Re:Still shipping unstable CVS dumps as packages ? (Score:1)
Re:Still shipping unstable CVS dumps as packages ? (Score:1)
Where'd that come from? (Score:2)
Re:Where'd that come from? (Score:1)
ruby1.8 1.8.2-9ubuntu1 Interpreter of object-oriented scripting lan
~$ ruby --version
ruby 1.8.3 (2005-06-23) [i486-linux]
I've read several places that this is a CVS version.
"When I pulled the Ruby package out of Breezy and built it, it was a 1.8.3 CVS
build. This is yet another pre-release package. I don't think the updated Ruby
package has made it to backports yet. I've been checking every couple of hours
now. If and when the package does make it into backports I hope and pray that
it's
Graphical Installer (Score:3, Insightful)
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUI [debian.org]
Re:Graphical Installer (Score:2)
The traditional method of installation should be available for techies, but these hardly need a shiny interface with icons and buttons.
There is nothing wrong with a text based installer as long as it is well done.
Re:Graphical Installer (Score:1)
notification - wtf (Score:2)
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta#head-c56a 98f3cc839f858104f654c0f6900908721f73 [ubuntu.com]
it's the notification section. gnome 2.14 has a sexy new notification box at last. there's a message saying updates are avaliable. and then it says 'a restart is required' what's that about. when do you ever need to do that in linux? obviously if you want to boot into a newer kernel, but i wouldn't recommend rebooting JUST for that. wait till you next turn on tomorrow. any other application is the
Re:notification - wtf (Score:3, Informative)
Ubuntu for the masses (Score:2)
Re:Ubuntu for your Mama (Score:1)
My moms hard drive sh!t itself the other day, so after we got a new one I offered to put Linux on it for her. She's a total novice, so I used Hoary as opposed to Dapper, but so far its doing everything she needs: Firefox, Thunderbird, Frozen-Bubble, and even FirstClass, her school district's email/groupware client has a linux beta available. Slowly, Linux is penetrating the absolute beginner market.
I know theres a joke here somewhere, I just can't quite connect... Linux... penetrating... your mama... Hm
Re:Ubuntu for the masses (Score:2)
Just Imagine How the Final Will Turn Out... (Score:2, Interesting)