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Linux Helping Oracle 148

Mr. Fahrenheit writes "CNN has a story about how Oracle's effort to port their database to Linux may be helping them to out pace IBM." From the article: "In its biennial survey of the world's largest databases, WinterCorp, a database research and consulting company, reported that Oracle dominated its list of 175 large databases. For the first time, databases running on Linux appeared on WinterCorp's list -- and all of them came from Oracle."
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Linux Helping Oracle

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  • Bollocks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by teslatug ( 543527 ) on Sunday April 09, 2006 @12:35PM (#15095117)
    The assertion that Linux is helping Oracle gain grounds on IBM isn't supported at all in the article. DB2 also runs under Linux, and if they said that Oracle on Linux is faster than DB2 on Linux then I could understand it. But just because Oracle runs under Linux, doesn't mean existing DB2 customers will jump ship to Oracle. Also new customers in the market for a database will not go to Oracle just because it runs under Linux because so does DB2. They'll compare the merits of the databases, and the costs that go with them.
  • Or... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by buddha42 ( 539539 ) on Sunday April 09, 2006 @12:58PM (#15095177)
    You could just as easily say the opposite, Oracle is helping linux.
  • by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Sunday April 09, 2006 @01:28PM (#15095248)
    Read what I said again.

    The term "enlightened self-interest" has nothing to do with screwing the other guy ... in fact, it very much has to do with deliberately not jacking the other guy around. That's what the term "enlightened" means in this context. I ran a consulting company for about fifteen years, and yes, I was out to make a profit. After all, that's why I was in business. But I fully expected the other guy to come away from the table with some benefit as well, which is what any good business relationship is all about. If your only goal is to get whatever you can, by any means, no matter what the cost to your business partners or your customers, well, that's self-interest without the enlightened part.

    Furthermore, when people would come to me with "opportunities" that seemed to good to be true (i.e., being "kind" for no apparent reason) I was naturally very suspicious. I would always ask, gee that sounds great ... but what do you get out of it? If the answer was nothing I knew they were lying, and that I would end up getting the shaft. But if someone came to me and said, "I have a mutually profitable business arrangement I would like to discuss with you" I would at least listen, because they were being honest about their expectations.
  • Re:MS Access (Score:3, Interesting)

    by moreati ( 119629 ) <alex@moreati.org.uk> on Sunday April 09, 2006 @02:13PM (#15095429) Homepage
    I'm sure you mean this in jest. However, the folks at mdbtools [sourceforge.net] are working on it.

  • OracLinux (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Sunday April 09, 2006 @02:18PM (#15095452) Homepage Journal
    What's cool about porting Oracle to Linux is that Oracle can modify Linux. They can drop parts of the kernel that don't help Oracle run, and add parts Oracle needs but that isn't part of Oracle. I'd love to see an Oracle Linux distro that is stripped to do nothing but run an Oracle server (not even run Oracle clients) and maybe one of Oracle's Java app servers, in clusters.
  • by jadavis ( 473492 ) on Sunday April 09, 2006 @02:28PM (#15095491)
    now when you're talking million records or more, then oracle will "hog your resources" to ensure you get lightening quick responses while ensuring data integrity

    You're implying that consuming many resources is required to ensure data integrity. It's not. Correct programming is required to ensure data integrity. "Hogging resources" (i.e. allocating lots of memory) is useful for acheiving better performance on a large database.

    You also imply that a million records is a large database. It's not, unless of course each record is large. A million records can often fit entirely in RAM.

    use MySQL and worry about your tables getting corrupted

    Is data corruption on working hardware a real problem for MySQL?

    [PostgreSQL's] autovacuum package also sucks ass

    Constructive criticism, please. Autovacuum is useful to many people. If there's something about it that can be improved, let us all know.

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