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Root Password Readable in Clear Text with Ubuntu 520

BBitmaster writes "An extremely critical bug and security threat was discovered in Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 earlier today by a visitor on the Ubuntu Forums that allows anyone to read the root password simply by opening an installer log file. Apparently the installer fails to clean its log files and leaves them readable to all users. The bug has been fixed, and only affects The 5.10 Breezy Badger release. Ubuntu users, be sure to get the patch right away."
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Root Password Readable in Clear Text with Ubuntu

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  • Saw this on Digg (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Stevyn ( 691306 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:38AM (#14905314)
    It came out, it was fixed. There are going to be problems in any project this large, but it shows how much the Ubuntu team cares to respond to a problem this quickly and on a Sunday of all days. Ubuntu really has become a nice distro. It's completely free and polished around the edges. I hope they continue to do well.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:42AM (#14905328)
    Oh PLEASE, what a joke of a comment. The fact is, they fucked up BIG TIME. Yeah, it's a nice distro, but so is windows, and had microsoft made this error you'd be on their ass about how crappy windows is.

    The bias here on slashdot sometimes makes me sick.

    Grow up people!
  • by ergo98 ( 9391 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:42AM (#14905330) Homepage Journal
    Invariably, a lot of the comments to this story are going to commend the team on the incredibly speed with which they've released a patch, and there'll probably be some comments comparing it to closed software. Yet another victory for the open source model!

    Yet how long has this massive fault been sitting there waiting for the first person to discover it? How do we know that the public acknowledgement of it was the first actual discovery of it?

    I believe Breezy was released in October, so for five months install logs have been sitting, world-readable, often with the root password. Surely in that time someone well less savoury motives did a simple grep of an install looking for the most trivial of faults.

    Feeling confident in the speed of the patch relies upon the belief that no one with nefarious motives discovered it before a benevolent bug submitter did.
  • Awesome (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ergo98 ( 9391 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:46AM (#14905344) Homepage Journal
    30 seconds and my post got a flamebait. I love Slashdot.

    Within the same 30 seconds a post appeared following mine comparing the fix (which has the massive complexity of deleting some log files) with Microsoft's WMF fix, exactly as predicted. Beautiful, and so predictable.
  • by slashbob22 ( 918040 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:47AM (#14905350)
    This IS a very serious issue, however it does require some work (accessing log) to obtain root. In comparison to other operating systems which provide default root ("administrator") access, without a password, on installation; this isn't as big of a deal. On top of this, from my understanding, a change of the root password after installation would prevent further issues. Overall this seems to be a problem but certainly not a huge one.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:48AM (#14905359)
    Any programmer who doesn't stop themselves and think that writing something like fprintf(logfile, "root password entered is: %s\n", password); is not the best idea should not be writing code for a secure operating system.
  • by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:53AM (#14905373) Homepage Journal
    I believe Breezy was released in October, so for five months install logs have been sitting, world-readable, often with the root password. Surely in that time someone well less savoury motives did a simple grep of an install looking for the most trivial of faults.

    Anybody with an ounce of common sense should know that you never leave a critical password floating around in plain text. Not in memory, not in swap and you never print it to a bloody log file. Who's going to want to check it?

    Passwords are supposed to be non-reversable. The NetBSD installer seems to run the passwd command directly during installation, so the installer never sees the password. Did somebody get the bright idea of prompting for the password in their own UI when the graphical installer was done? This should have been caught. The design of the installer is at fault. Not the log file. I wouldn't count this one as fixed until the installer never sees the password. Sorry for the rant.

  • Re:okay (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ralph alpha ( 956305 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:54AM (#14905377)
    Deleting a log file isn't quite the same thing as fixing buffer overflows and whatnot in a huge chunk of code. Yeah, it took MS 2 weeks -- and that was too long. It's not like the two bugs were equal in scope, though.
  • by Parham ( 892904 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @01:54AM (#14905379)
    If Microsoft had made the error, we'd have to wait until the second Tuesday of the month for the fix. If this bug wasn't caught by tomorrow for me, then I'd have to wait an entire month for a fix. Ubuntu put out the patch as soon as it was discovered. There is no bias here, I use Windows just as much as Linux. However, Microsoft's patching cycles simply suck.
  • by Bacon Bits ( 926911 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:01AM (#14905395)
    Nevertheless, AC is right. If it was relvealed that the local Administrator account or the domain Administrator account was stored anywhere as plain text in Windows 2000, XP, or 2003, then MS would be reamed endlessly and very harshly here. Or do you honestly think people would be saying "oh, well, at least MS has a patch!" I'm no fan of Microsoft as a company, but denying that a bias exists on Slashdot about this kind of thing -- apologising for *nix, criticising Windows -- is just outright absurd.

    Be honest. Everyone here knows that storing the root password as plain text is a clear program error. And since GNU/Linux is a rather secure OS that doesn't have this vulerability in any other distro, this code was added by the Ubuntu team. If this is the quality of code that the Ubuntu team is developing for it's distro, though, I do have to question why it is so popular. Why was such an obvious mistake missed? Who forgot to check how the root password is stored? Who forgets that kind of thing? Not the kind of developer I'd want to trust with my security, I'll tell you what.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:04AM (#14905399)
    Ubuntu is poised to become to standard by which Linux distros are judged. I've been running the latest stable release, Breezy Badger 5.10 for awhile and it's rock solid, good looking, and easy to administer. Last night I downloaded Flight 5, the latest development iso for Dapper Drake 6.04, and was immediately impressed. In just one upgrade, they've managed to really go the extra mile with all the new features. I love minimalist simplicity, and Ubuntu gives me just that. Ubuntu is Debian made easy for the masses. You get the bullet-proof Debian core with a great, easy interface. Nothing touches this at the moment. Linux for human being is a great tagline.
    Now, let the script kiddies who have nothing better to do flame me for saying Ubuntu is cool. These same script kiddies who think they're 1337 because they have to manually set up their Slackware box. These same wanna-be geeks who are still bootstrapping their Gentoo systems for 12 hours to extract a extra 5 milliseconds of speed from their CPUs. I've done all that and now that I'm almost 40 years old, I just want a quick, stable system to work from.
  • by RzUpAnmsCwrds ( 262647 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:08AM (#14905409)
    If Microsoft had made the error, we'd have to wait until the second Tuesday of the month for the fix. If this bug wasn't caught by tomorrow for me, then I'd have to wait an entire month for a fix. Ubuntu put out the patch as soon as it was discovered. There is no bias here, I use Windows just as much as Linux. However, Microsoft's patching cycles simply suck.

    Patching is quite frankly irrelivent with this bug. While it certainly has to be done to close the hole in the future, there are already hundreds of thousands of Ubuntu systems out there with the password sitting on the disk. How are you to be sure as an administrator that the password has not been compromised already? What about backup copies that might have the password?

    The fix is to change the administrator/root password. The bug only affects a system at install-time, and it will continue to affect new installs so long as the broken installer is floating around. Patching it today is hardly more effective than patching it on April 6.
  • Re:okay (Score:4, Insightful)

    by The Bungi ( 221687 ) <> on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:14AM (#14905424) Homepage
    When you have 300,000,000 users things are a little more complicated than when you have 3,000.
  • by prockcore ( 543967 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:18AM (#14905434)
    I find it very interesting that the severity of this bug is identical to the severity of the security hole found in OSX last week... yet the difference in attitudes is remarkable.

    Look at the slashdot summary. "An extremely critical bug and security threat". Compare with the OSX bug which was written off because it's not remotely exploitable.

    Apple hasn't even acknowledged that the OSX privilege escalation exists, let alone patched it.
  • by magi ( 91730 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:25AM (#14905454) Homepage Journal
    Ubuntu users, be sure to get the patch right away.

    What does this patch fix? The installer? Sorry, but the installer is burned in the installation media, and a patch can be applied only after the installer has been run. So updating the system or even upgrading to Dapper (where it has been fixed) doesn't help. So....patch whAt???

    No really, the installation ISO images should be fixed immediately and redistributed.

    Also saying that it "only affects The 5.10 Breezy Badger release" may be a bit belittling, as probably most people have installed exactly that release.
  • by damiam ( 409504 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:34AM (#14905484)
    In comparison to other operating systems which provide default root ("administrator") access, without a password, on installation; this isn't as big of a deal.

    WTF are you smoking? No modern OS sets up an unpassworded root account by default, especially on a multiuser system. And if they did, there would be no expectation of security. Here, there is the expectation of security, and it is violated.

    In fact, this attack is even worse than the average privilege escalation vulnerability, because a) it's amazingly stupid on the part of the programmer and b) the attacker gains not just root priveleges but the root password, which is often reused by less-paranoid users for other purposes.

  • by MarkByers ( 770551 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:34AM (#14905486) Homepage Journal
    Don't use a bleeding edge home desktop OS if you want a secure multi-user server.
  • by strider44 ( 650833 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @02:38AM (#14905505)
    Come now, do you really think that somewhere in the code there's a manual fprintf writing the root password to the file? You could have at least made a simple attempt at reading the article to find out what it's about and what causes it.

    The problem here is that the main user password (Ubuntu doesn't have a root password) is asked through the questions dialogue in the installer. Everything here is automatic and the questions dialogue just simply records everything down in a file called "questions.dat". It's a serious error for a programmer sure, but it's just a lack of thinking of everything when programming, which is what every single security hole is caused by, lets face it. You could just as easily say everyone who doesn't check their arrays every single time no matter what shouldn't be let within ten feet of gcc, but alas even the best make mistakes. Not only this, but someone who doesn't check every array may be letting through a remote exploit, which is much much more serious than this bug.

    The mantra of course applies here: Unless you've programmed a totally secure operating system, keep your mouth shut.
  • Insecure memory? Unless I'm missing something huge here, one process can't read another's memory. Can you give an example of how something can end up in "insecure" memory?. Maybe if you have access to /dev/(k)mem. Same goes for swap afaik. If those problems haven't been solved long ago, any Linux distro is swiss cheese.

    Which means it's as simple as a GUI prompt for the password, and a pipe to passwd, no writing to disk necessary at all.

  • Patch mirror (Score:3, Insightful)

    by atomic-penguin ( 100835 ) <.ude.llahsram. .ta. .12eflow.> on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:06AM (#14905564) Homepage Journal

    echo "Why would anyone log a password in the installer?\n"
    find /var/log -type f -exec sed -i s/$PASS//g' {} \;

    echo "Why would anyone have /var/log readable by users?\n"
    chown -R root:root /var/log
    chmod -R o-rwx /var/log

    echo "All done, thanks for using Atomic-Penguin\'s unofficial ubutnu patch!\n"
  • by SnowZero ( 92219 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:09AM (#14905572)
    ...Why? Because the legal-circle-jerk that is the debian-legal mailing list, decided that it wasn't "legal" to link netatalk (a GPL project) to OpenSSL (license supposedly incompatible with GPL.

    This has been discussed at length, and OpenSSL's license is GPL incompatible. Everyone else may simply think it's ok to bend the rules, and that they won't ever get sued for it. That's not a safe assumption for a volunteer-based distribution.

    This doesn't stop every other distribution on the planet from compiling netatalk with openssl, and hence supporting encrypted passwords.

    "Everyone else breaks the rules, so its ok." That doesn't work for speeding tickets, and it doesn't work in contract/license disputes.

    They politely suggested that GnuTLS, which isn't even remotely drop-in, be used instead. That was back in 2002...and the issue still hasn't been addressed. I filed a bug on it and the bug was simply ignored.

    Maybe you and any other users of appletalk on unsecure networks ought to band together and fix it. Alternatively you can just switch distributions or upgrade your networking from appletalk (a 1980s protocol, since you were talking about being 10-years backwards).

    Does it suck? Yes. It sucks that the OpenSSL people won't change their license, and upstream netatalk doesn't care either. However Debian would risk legal action against ALL users if they break the law, even though 1% of the users use this package. They chose the solution for 99% of their users, which is the best you can hope for in an esoteric case like this.
  • Re:Solution (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 1u3hr ( 530656 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:22AM (#14905605)
    1. Change your password.

    (Only passwords used during the install are written to the file in question.)

  • by LnxAddct ( 679316 ) <> on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:28AM (#14905617)
    Why the hell is everyone trying to downplay the severity of this? This is a serious issue, its worse than most security problems I've seen with *any* operating system, stop the hand waving, and spread the word instead. This *is* serious and shows poorly on the Ubuntu developers. I mean, how many people have set up linux for their parents or family, chosen Ubuntu and now they have to make sure they go in and change that. Updating won't always work (for reasons listed elsewhere), the only sure thing to do is to physically change it (if ssh access is enabled than its easier).

    One of Ubuntu's big things is giving out free cd's, in particular targeted to people who don't know what linux is. Me and my roommates actually had a 100 or so Ubuntu CDs, most of which we've given away. We both run Fedora, it fits our needs as "powerusers" better, but give out Ubuntu simply out of convenience and to help the "cause". They are both nice distros, but security is definitely one area where Fedora surpasses all of the other distros.

    Fedora makes security transparent to the user, you're running SELinux but would never know it unless you needed to, you're running exec-shield but you'd never know it unless you needed to, all the major services are compiled to randomize memory mappings, but the user is none-the-wiser. That goes for advanced and beginning users. I can install Fedora and be fairly certain that even if somehow my system stopped updating, that any vulnerabilities found would be stopped by these additional measures anyway. The measures in place make most buffer overflows useless and even if you somehow got passed all of the measures to prevent overflows and you got root through an exploit in a vulnerable service (despite that the services don't run as root), SELiux would probably still make your entry pretty pointless.

    The point I'm making is, the differece between a secure OS a non-secure OS are ones where even without updates, the security measures in place are foward looking and work to prevent current unknown attacks. Fedora has damn near perfected this, but if any of the users of the Ubuntu CDs I've given out somehow managed to disable updates, they are screwed now. There should never be a situation like that. Bravo on the response time, but seriously the users most likely to be affected don't read /. or digg and if they don't update then they are screwed more than they were before. I don't like knowing that a local user vulnerability will can give out root access
  • by DNS-and-BIND ( 461968 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:34AM (#14905638) Homepage
    In a real project, someone who made a greenhorn mistake like that would be fired. In Open Source, you just say "oopsie" and keep blundering forward.
  • Anybody who's done a breezy install and allowed any sort of remote or non-admin access should be changing their password .... NOW! .

    The patch (unless it goes out and deletes the offending files) is only going to patch the installer (which you're probably never going to run again). You're still going to have a cleartext copy of your original admin password sitting on the box in a file with read-other permissions.

    Even if the files get deleted (or have their permissions changed), you still have no idea as to whether somebody has read the files since October.

    BTW: Are they re-burning the installation CDs?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:48AM (#14905685)
    ..install a backdoor password, at least make it a not easily crackable one.. :|
  • by Canordis ( 826884 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @03:53AM (#14905698)

    This is a consequence of Ubuntu's different security model. You can't be root in Ubuntu; you have to consciously make the decision to run software as root by typing 'sudo' before it. (Actually you can run a shell under sudo, but still.) The idea was that since you can't login as root, the system is more secure and resists exploits that try to gain root access. This vulnerability is the kind of stupid mistake people make sometimes. A brain fart. Nothing really malicious, and not the sign of an incompetent programmer. Something you could've done.

    Most Windows vulnerabilities are that, too. There's just more of them. And the system is inherently less secure, so it doesn't resist those quite as well. And it's harder to update because it's a monolithic kludge. Of course, some Windows vulnerabilities are just the product of poor design.

    And another thing, if this happened, /. would bash Microsoft insanely. True. There is a bias. But still, I highly doubt the issue would be fixed in the same day, on a Sunday, and the update would be availiable quickly and painlessly.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @04:04AM (#14905738)
    There's an assumption in your post that the only reason a person wouldn't install the updates is failure to notice their existence disinterest in messing with things. I personally don't keep the latest updates installed out of fear.

    I need my linux install to work all the time because I rely on it to do my school work (computer science). An ubuntu update has never broken my system before, but it's a concern for me nonetheless. Every linux system is configured differently, and I'm not willing to bet my academic success on the hope that my exact set of installed packages and config files on my hardware won't have any problems that weren't caught in some kind of non-commercial open-source testing phase (or perhaps weren't tested at all).

    Call me paranoid, but I always wait until a break to install my updates. I've chosen to effectively have the same security update frequency as Windows even though I can plainly see when new updates are available. Hopefully I won't get p0wned because of it.
  • Just a question, if the password hash isn't stored anywhere, how do you compare the password you enter to the actual password?
  • by mtenhagen ( 450608 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @04:33AM (#14905823) Homepage
    Just changing the root password is not enough, this 'bug' was here for months any could have installed a rootkit or did who knows what. This is going to be a fresh install for me.

    And that fresh install will be gentoo. This is really embarrassing for Ubunutu. Iam just so happy my work servers all run solaris.
  • by Kwiik ( 655591 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @05:16AM (#14905948) Homepage
    This is MUCH more akin to something such as Dell (or any other vendor, picking on the biggie here) releasing an OEM version of their OS in which the administrator account's password is always the same, or something along these lines -- but wait, usually XP Pro doesn't have any admin passwords on OEM installations, it merely sits in the background, waiting for me to control+alt+delete twice at some home user's logon screen, and log in as administrator without a password. This has been an issue since XP Pro.. it isn't a problem with Microsoft, and it generally isn't even considered a problem. This is an issue with OEM's releasing Microsoft OS's. This issue isn't with Linux, it's with a Linux provider, and as such is completely irrelevant to the entire scenario (unless, of course, you are doing a Microsoft funded study of Windows VS Linux security)
  • by LordLucless ( 582312 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @05:17AM (#14905950)
    I have. My homebrew OS doesn't even compile. No security problems there.

    Joking aside, if you apply that little mantra of yours to other scenarios, you'll see how silly it is. How about "Don't criticise Gigli unless you've produced the perfect film"? How about "Don't criticise your plumber for not fixing your leak and flooding your basement until you've laid the perfect pipe"? How about "Don't criticise your goverment until you've ruled over the perfect society"?

    You do not need to be an expert to see when an expert is doing a crap job of it.
  • by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @05:35AM (#14906002)
    Alternatively you can just switch distributions or upgrade your networking from appletalk (a 1980s protocol, since you were talking about being 10-years backwards).

    Secure password authentication in AFP was introduced at least 10 years ago. We're talking about AppleSHARE here, Mr. Genius. A protocol fully maintained and used extensively on current hardware. I'll switch to SMB when it offers the same level of performance as AFP (it doesn't, not even close, in raw transfer speed or directory operations) and the same filename compatibility.

    Maybe you and any other users of appletalk on unsecure networks ought to band together and fix it.

    So let's get this straight.

    • Linux software authors tell us how wonderful Linux is, how great "open source" is. We won't be locked into anything, blah blah.
    • We switch over. Things are good; it's free, it's fast, it's mostly stable and somewhat bug-free. Until we discover problems.
    • We report the problems- even filing those nice bug reports in Bugzilla.
    • We notice nobody's giving our problems any attention (over the course of years) and we complain about the delay.
    • We get told "it's a matter of principle" and to go fuc...sorry, I mean...fix it ourselves.

    Like many a faithful geek, I was led down the path of "enlightenment" offered. I helped give open-source software market share. I helped sell open-source to my boss, and my boss's boss. I redirected my career to support open-source software.

    And what do I get in return? "Fix it yourself, you dumb user."

    To think I still get asked why I'm not running Linux on my Powerbook. Because IT JUST WORKS; no politics, no "nobody cares about that bug so it won't be fixed". Because I don't have to deal with arrogant blowhard grad students telling me to fix software myself. I have neither the time, ability, knowledge nor inclination necessary to run around fixing complex software. 99.999% of the rest of the world doesn't either. Sad reality of life is that there is an extremely small segment of the population of linux users that have even the slightest qualifications to know how to go about fixing bugs or adding features.

    Like most academics, you have zero comprehension of what matters in the real world. Joe Sixpack doesn't go into Firefox and add features. Jane Officeuser doesn't fix GnuTLS so it works with netatalk. Users don't give a damn about theoretical lawsuit possiblities. They don't give a shit about the finer points of licensing. Nothing impresses a CIO or a Director of IT less than "oh, we have to transmit passwords in clear-text because the license for a system library isn't compatible with the license for the server software."

    Oh, and if you believe the whole Debian kool-aide line about "we have to protect this because we'd ALL BE SUED", I have two bridges in NY I'd just LOVE to sell you. PS: It says "gullible sheep" on the ceiling.

  • by Chris Pimlott ( 16212 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @06:33AM (#14906153)
    Licenses aren't a technical detail of Linux, it's the core. It's what makes them possible. If we decide to start ignorning them because they are inconvenient in some particur situation, we weaken the entire foundation of open source software.

    And anyway, you may find in this post-SOX world that administrators care a bit more about the legality of their software than you may think.
  • Re:Solution (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Uber Banker ( 655221 ) * on Monday March 13, 2006 @06:36AM (#14906160)
    With every ubuntu installation the first thing I did was setting a root password, even if you don't have any intention of using it, in my opinion having a password you don't know about is worse than having a password only you know.

    Make sure you remove permissions for users to change the root password though. On a default Ubuntu install all a user need do is sudo passwd and enter root's new password (no need to enter the old one).
  • Re:Solution (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 13, 2006 @07:27AM (#14906262)
    Since when a running script leaves entries in .bash_history?
  • by Dan Farina ( 711066 ) on Monday March 13, 2006 @07:46AM (#14906323)
    Why is this a right-minded concept, may I ask? I am truly ignorant of the reasoning, so please enlighten me...
  • by bheer ( 633842 ) <rbheer@gm a i l .com> on Monday March 13, 2006 @09:26AM (#14906644)
    >> t's just a fact: "the sky is blue", "water is wet", Ubuntu is insecure.
    > Let's check your facts...


    The sky is blue, water is wet, Ubuntu evangelists are pedantic blowhards who can't recognize a common English phrase when they see one...

    And don't bother flaming-- I use Ubuntu myself. It's just that It's just that I miss the times when Linux evangelists were, you know, nice people. These days all we seem to get is shrill "$foo_distribution r0x0rs!!" shills.

    Besides, flaming a user, especially when your distro is caught with your pants down, is never a good idea.

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