LCD Color Corrector? 75
colorContrast asks: " I've currently got a Viewsonic VG700b, and as of recent, it has been giving me some trouble. Instead of showing real black, i'm now getting a red hue for black, and the pixels on the screen have become more pronounced than they used to be. The odd thing is that when I brought my monitor home over vacation, the problem was fixed for a short while, but now it appears to be broken again. Does anyone have any suggestions on if its time to get a new LCD, or if they know of a fix for this problem? (I have attempted to manually correct it by changing the colors but that did little.)"
Have you tried... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Have you tried... (Score:3, Insightful)
Technical advice from slashdot?? (Score:1, Redundant)
Re:Technical advice from slashdot?? (Score:3, Insightful)
... It's BROKE! (Score:2)
Of course, you could just have a bad cable (thinking along the lines of a broken VGA cable... can wash out colors when you lose 1 of the 3....)
use one of these (Score:2, Funny)
Re:use one of these (Score:1)
Re:use one of these (Score:2)
Slashdotted, out of stock (Score:2)
Don't bother. (Score:4, Insightful)
It is nearly impossible to have uniform backlight illumination, so you will always have colour variation problem. And the pixel intensity response is not gammaifiable like CRTs, and is bound to vary along the screen.
If you expect your LCD to do photo-edition, you're SOL.
Re:Don't bother. (Score:1)
Re:Don't bother. (Score:2)
Both types of technology have their own flaws. Personally, I'm m
Re:Don't bother. (Score:2)
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Is the actual brightness of the white point something that is also measured by hardware calibration tools?
Re:Don't bother. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Don't bother. (Score:2)
Most photographers doing digital (myself included) have gone to calibrated LCDs and they can be very accurate when compared to printed output. The calibrations take 15-30 minutes but once you get the hang of it, it's not bad at all. There are several good brands (Monaco, Gretag) and many models to choo
Re:Don't bother. (Score:3, Funny)
Holy $h!t, man, you'd better slow that thing down!!!
Re:Don't bother. (Score:2)
don't photo-edit with a CRT either (Score:4, Informative)
Eeeeew. You want to edit photos with that ???
Re:don't photo-edit with a CRT either (Score:2)
Ow. (Score:1)
Re:don't photo-edit with a CRT either (Score:2)
You edit photos that consist of black and white lines???
Unless your family members are all referees, that's the most absolutely fucking worthless tool with which to evaluate a display that I've ever. It has no semblence to any photographic editing task, and is designed to demonstrate (not "test") precisely two flaws inherent in CRT monitors design: Imprecise pixel placement, and limited bandwidth, while also demonstrating none of the LCDs flaws.
Anyway: Your test looks fine at a perfectly reasonable
bad cable? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:bad cable? (Score:4, Informative)
I have one (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, have you tried... (Score:5, Insightful)
It could also be your VGA card. I have seen VGA boards go bad in such manners that the make darkened streaks across the screen, off color to complete wrong or missing colors and artifacting/flickering picture. Monitors sometimes go bad in the exact same way! I've been fooled into thinking a display was bad before.
Also, this is a very slight possibility, but your VGA cable might be bad. If the cable is crimpled or damaged, there may be cross talk among the signal wires. This usually leads to a ghosted image, but may cause color problems.
So, I'd check your display out on a different PC, with a new cable just to rule out those issues before buying a costly replacement. The case is probably going to be that your display is just bad. Viewsonic isn't a great name in monitors, but then again no one makes a good display anymore.
As a long shot, but Windows and Mac OS X support color profiles. You might be able to compensate with software depending on your video card. I'm pretty sure X.org has some sort of color profile support, though I may be wrong on that point.
Re:Well, have you tried... (Score:2)
Many options (Score:4, Informative)
Don't think I've ever seen an LCD panel drift in color unless it was a cabling issue. CRTs, on the other hand, generally either drift to red or green as they die in my experience.
There's lots of software-based gamma/color correction fixes that you can apply to the monitor depending on your OS. The 'advanced' display driver panel should have some color/gamma adjustments if you've got an nVidia or ATI card under Win, and there's a big ass "calibrate" button on your display preference pane on the Mac that'll let you get stuff back in whack.
If you're running any Adobe apps under Win or Mac OS 9, there's the Adobe Gamma control panel -- which I personally used when I had an old CRT that decided to go pink and dark on me.
When you start talking calibration hardware, on the other hand, you're starting to talk about stuff like the Gretag-Macbeth EyeOne series or a Spider, which are probably more pricey than the new LCD you've got your eye on.
Re:Many options (Score:1)
Off-topic, but also watch out for random distortions. Had a 17" CRT that I used as a backup when I was home from school that started to have random distortions on boot, and sometimes in Windows. Thought it was just an issue with a wonky cable or possibly some form of interference. Well, started the box up one day, monitor kicks on, and as I'm about to log in, I hear a horrible sizzling/squealing noise. I ripped t
Re:Many options (Score:2)
LCD Color Correction (Score:2)
But on the off chance that this isn't happening a good color corrector is Spyder2 PRO. At $250ish it may
What OS? (Score:1)
If you're using Windows, I assume you checked the more advanced features offered by your video driver. If not, try going to the advanced properties for your display.
If that doesn't work, I know Adobe has a color profiler tool that comes with Photoshop. (It may come with the free Elements version; I don't know.) It may or may not help.
In any case, do what everyone else is suggesting, and check your video cable. If it's built-in to your display, you're SOL unless it's
Re:What OS? (Score:2)
try these.. (Score:1)
this one boasts making the dead pixels alive again....
http://udpix.free.fr/ [udpix.free.fr]
this one is for ghosting....
http://www.beginnercode.com/index.php/2005/11/16/
2nding the Cable theory (Score:4, Insightful)
-Rick
Re:2nding the Cable theory (Score:1)
cheap cables are bad for high resolution analog (Score:2)
You haven't seen good CRT graphics until you've seen 2048 x 1536 driven by a Matr
DVI for LCD! Analog for VGA! (Score:2)
My rule of thumb is stick to DVI for LCD, period. With DVI you don't have to muck around with sync, phase, geometry, etc. It just works. Color correction is a must if you're doing any sort of print work, there are great calibrators available. Digital LCD has been great ever since the Silicon Graphics SGI 1600SW LCD monitor + ColorLock calibrator from way back in early 1999. Don't
red hue for black (Score:3, Insightful)
That's the symptom to focus on.
Unfortunately, no externally-applied color correction can make your blacks blacker. Possibly gray instead of red, but you would lose serious amounts of contrast.
Loose/broken internal/external cable/connector. Very common problem for all electronics, but usually on monitors it shows up as a problem with white tints rather than black. A broken signal would usually tend towards zero volts (darker).
I would think it's probably not a backlight issue either because, again, you are complaining about black rather than white.
Does your monitor have DVI and VGA inputs? Have you tried the other one?
Does it have an on-screen display mode? Is that mode equally affected by the distortion?
Have hope, it might be possible to repair without surface-mount component-level repair.
Similar problem with VP171b = FIXED (Score:1)
Good luck.
Probably damanged BUT (Score:3, Interesting)
At any rate, if you want something that will do colour correction, what you are after is called, unsupprisingly, a Colorimeter. Basically it's a little device you stick on your monitor that measures colour values from the monitor, helps you change settings, and then builds a mapping table for your video card.
The good news is they work great. On a good monitor they will get you slightly better, more neutral colour and a good match to properly calibrated printers. On bad moniotrs they can take a horrible image and make it acceptable.
The bad news is that they are expensive. Not super expensive, but enough that it'll put a dent in your wallet.
If you decide to go this route, I recommend the Spyder 2 from ColorVision (aka Datacolor). While it doesn't get the best results on some monitors, it always gets good results on all monitors. Also has good, easy to use software. The normal Spyder 2 is like $150, the Studio version is $250. Both use the smae hardware sensor, the Studio version just has better software which lets you do things like multiple monitors with different profiles, custom colour temp and gamma targets, and so on.
However, I more recommend this for doing the fine tuning of a good monitor, rather than fixing a bad one. For the price, you can pretty much get a new monitor, which is more worth while. It's only really worth it as a fix-it tool for like a large lab or something. If you have a ton of compuers with various old monitors that you can't necessiarly replace, they work well for getting the best out of them.
Re:Probably damanged BUT (Score:2)
it even will do dualhead (if each head has its own gfx card - OR each head has its own gfx engine).
it will also do laptops (ie, things that don't have r/g/b settable parms in hardware).
mine was $240 back in december. yes, expensive - but you buy it once and then keep your screen updated (yes, they do drift over time). I suppose you could even sell the service of doing one-time calibrations, although that may exceed what is intended by 'sit
Adjust your contrast control (Score:2)
I've seen many LCD's, especially lower-costing ones, have terrible linearity, and the problem is exacerbated when you dial in a contrast setting that does not map the full range of input values to your display panel's output full range.
Another thing you can do to test is to try run the monitor with the PC disconnected -- many monitors bring up a "the monito
newish product- pantone huey.. (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.pantone.com/products/products.asp?idSu
Re:newish product- pantone huey.. (Score:3, Informative)
still not clear, but some language in the company advertising indicates that you need to always have this connected - and not just to get ambient light, either.
I have the monaco optix xr and I use it on XP (sigh). but since I use vnc viewer on XP (works really well as a viewer platform) - and then my vncserver runs on freebsd - I have color profiling on all apps that start on bsd (or linux or solaris or
Calibrate your monitors!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Read more here:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/monitor_calibr
http://www.chromix.com/ColorGear/Shop/productdeta
and of course:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_profile [wikipedia.org]
Re:Calibrate your monitors!!! (Score:2)
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:6YL1SpsEGoAJ
I had a similar problem (Score:2)
So, it's some kind of firmware problem, and it can't be updated. Set all color levels to 0, unplug it, shake it like an Etch-a-Sketch, try anything to make it forge
Pays to look around and spend more (Score:2)
Color calibration is important for those in the printing and graphics industry, but then, your talking about calibrating $1000 displays, ones designed and certified to offer highly accurate color display. There is a reason why those Apple displays are so pricey, they are certified for the graphics industry.
Any sub $500
Look for an external sourced of radiation (Score:2)
I'm surprised no one else has at least mentioned it.
Anyways, try repositioning it somewhere else in the room. Try turning off any other electronics (unplug them) in the area... all except your PC and Monitor.
I could be wrong but it's worth a try, rather than replacing it or sending it off to be 'fixed' and getting it
Re:Look for an external sourced of radiation (Score:2)
display troubleshooting (Score:2, Informative)
In this case, if you have the e
Troubleshoot or replace (Score:1)
- Does it look the same on another computer (try PC or laptop)
- Does it change if you wiggle the cable? Can you replace the cable?
- Does changing the monitor color setting affect it? (If you were using 6500k try 9700k; try shifting the red down)
- Have you tried something like the Adobe gamma utility to adjust the settings?
Best suggestion I can offer is when you buy your next LCD monitor...
1) Make sure it's a Samsung
2) Make sure you get a digita