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DVD Truce Between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD? 255

An anonymous reader writes " Reuters is reporting that Toshiba and Sony are in talks about reconciling the two next-generation DVD formats. Ideas floated in the article include a unified DVD arch which could use "Blu-ray's disc structure and HD DVD software technology" (Sony's idea) or "HD DVD disc structure and employing Sony's multi-layer data-recording technology" (Toshiba's idea)"
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DVD Truce Between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD?

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  • It's about time (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ghingy ( 877502 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:00PM (#12303659)
    Finally these guys have decided to put their egos aside and work on a compromise. If they had thought about this in the first place, imagine how much money these corporation would save on wasted R&D.
  • by grungebox ( 578982 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:02PM (#12303676) Homepage
    Does this really matter? Couldn't Sony still release their next PlayStation with BlueRay discs as their format? I mean, they did use UMD for the PSP, and they isn't a common format. If you know more about this let me know, but this to me would mean it could prevent more illegal copying of game discs.

    My guess would be that they want a BlueRay more widely accepted for their broader media goals, like movies and music and so forth. UMD doesn't really have that much market potential in those areas, I guess. This is pure speculation, but it's a possible answer to your question.
  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <> on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:03PM (#12303682) Homepage Journal
    Sony wants their console to be compatible with popular media formats so they can sell more of them. Also, the PS2 helped expand the installed base of DVD players among gamers; The PS3 can help expand the installed base of (insert next-generation video standard here) among gamers, as well. That helps the format succeed. Also, it helps the PS3 succeed, because people who might not have bought one will buy it because it's a video player AND a game console - just like the PS2.

    Too bad they didn't put VideoCD support in the PS, although I hear that you can get a plug-in module to do that (and play mp3s.)

  • Blu-Ray all the way! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by TheCamper ( 827137 ) <> on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:09PM (#12303740) Homepage
    I'm in favor of all out Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray is an actual technology to fit more data onto a disk. HD DVD is simply a format. You can still store HD DVD format using Blu-Ray technology. Also, HD DVD uses red lasers, and can only store between 4 and 7 gigs per disk. Blu-Ray can store 25 gigs on a one layered disk, 50 gigs on a dual layered disk.
  • by w.p.richardson ( 218394 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:10PM (#12303753) Homepage
    These new disc formats are all dead in the long run.

    Perhaps not immediately, but within a few years a system will exist which will allow the streaming of any movie ever made via broadband instantly. Why would you want to bother keeping an anachronistic collection of shiny discs, when you could have anything you want, instantly.

    These format wars will all look quaint in a few years when the bandwidth for home delivery of such a system is widely available.

  • Color me skeptical (Score:5, Interesting)

    by argent ( 18001 ) <peter&slashdot,2006,taronga,com> on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:15PM (#12303796) Homepage Journal
    They're each talking about keeping their own core hardware and layering the other's controllers and software on top of them. But of course it's the hardware that's the key piece. If they use the same core technology it doesn't matter much what the rest is: they could easily produce a dual-format drive with the rest of the differences fudged in firmware.

    So it sounds like they're both saying "Be reasonable, do it my way".
  • I care. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mustang Matt ( 133426 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:25PM (#12303895)
    I'm not sure if you just haven't seen high resolution video or if you truly don't care, but I've seen it and I care. The fact that HD TV signal over the air is higher resolution (better quality compression) than what is on DVD bothers me.

    I want to watch my movies with more definition and I realize that's not 100% reliant on the media but they will release higher def video on this new media.
  • Blu-Ray wins! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Qzukk ( 229616 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @01:51PM (#12304118) Journal
    While I could care less what "data format" is used, the Blu-Ray disc itself is far superior in capacity and data rate, and I'm glad it won.

    With a paltry 15mbit per second, HD-DVD's disc would not have a high enough data rate to encode 1080p video in MPEG4 (or any other codec) at any reasonable quality, essentially crippling HD until the next generation. (For comparison, the highest bitrate allowed in DVD video is 10mbit. D-VHS allows 30 mbit, Blu-Ray allows over 50mbit (section 3, bottom of page 5) [])

    Of course, more space per disc is always nice. Whether you're just trying to cram the Janitor's Commentary track into the extras, or providing Star Trek with a Klingon subtitle track, every little bit helps. More space also allows for movies to use that 50mbps data rate for longer periods of time. Fans of superbit DVDs would drool all over the promise of superbit Blu-Ray discs.
  • by bigtrouble77 ( 715075 ) on Thursday April 21, 2005 @02:49PM (#12304771)
    Could Sony be doing this to delay the XBox360 release? Microsoft has been gaining a ton of momentum with software developers of late, something it never had with the current xbox.

    Microsoft will most definately hold off releaseing the next xbox if the new DVD standard's release is impending. That'll give Sony a nice window to get caught up.

    It's a bold move, but I think it could help Sony immensely if the timing is right.

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