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Controversial StarForce Copy Protection Creators Quizzed 952

Thanks to FiringSquad for its interview with the creators of the StarForce copy protection scheme for PC videogames. The author explains: "In recent months there's been an increasing awareness and alarm over StarForce copy protection. It's actually a driver that installs itself with the [Windows] games that come shipped with it, and originally it didn't uninstall when the game was uninstalled." StarForce's Abbie Sommer argues the advantages of "driver-level copy protection", explaining: "The drivers are what prevents the use of kernel debugger utilities such as SoftICE, Cool Debugger, Soft Snoop etc. Also the drivers prevent emulators from spoofing a drive, and thwart burning tools such as Alcohol 120%." The author concludes by injecting a little personal opinion into the mix, arguing: "PC games will never go away, but if the market keeps shrinking due to the increasing ease of piracy... then the number and quality of games will almost certainly decrease."
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Controversial StarForce Copy Protection Creators Quizzed

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  • by cot ( 87677 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @04:58AM (#10010341)
    "I'm posting anonymously for obvious reasons."

    When someone starts off with this, I'm expecting something appropriately juicy. Your post was kind of a let down.
  • WTF? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Graymalkin ( 13732 ) * on Thursday August 19, 2004 @05:14AM (#10010424)
    Man at Computer: Hey...what the hell? [star-force.com]
    Dork Behind Him: What is the matter with you?
    Chick: Looks like he ran afoul of Star Force's copyright protection!
    Dork: Ha ha!
    Chick: *snicker*
    Man: Shut the hell up you two!
    Dork: OMG YOUR MEGAHURTZ HAS BEEN STOL3D!!
    Chick: All your CD-ROM belong to Star Force.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 19, 2004 @05:58AM (#10010589)
    Being a young cracker, i'm of course not able to crack such complicated protections. Yet one of the first thing you learn while cracking is to look at things from a lot of different points. So what do we have here?
    - Good copy protection.
    - Game market shrinking.

    How could i get a copy and still help the game industry? Easy, go to the shop, open the box, and leave with the CD/DVD...
    - You get a copy for free.
    - The game industry was paid for it.

    Voila! Now if they just could put stickers on the box with the copy protection name so i dont need to go to differents shops that often...

    One could argue that the shops keeps generally 4% of the sales to pay the stolen good. But yet other peoples steals, so I pay for them when not stealing, so after a time I've paid for a free product of my choice. Just call that 4% the analogical P2P, and forget about it...

    -- Gawaa!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 19, 2004 @07:18AM (#10010894)
    ..we had visions of software and content being distributed instantly. Hell, by 1889 all drivers I needed for my job were.

    Mr. Babbages Line Printing and Mimographic Aperatus for the Laying Out and Production of Tabular Information and Mathmatical Tables
    A Driver for use with Mr. Babbages Differential Engine No. #1
    Driver verion 1.253 Patch Level 2

    Warning! Women should not attempt the installation or operation of this device driver!
  • by roie_m ( 260122 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @07:31AM (#10010944)
    Grandparent: "by 1889 all drivers I needed for my job ..."
    Parent: "Steam [steampowered.com]?"

    Am I the only one who finds this hilarious?
  • by Jaysyn ( 203771 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @08:26AM (#10011179) Homepage Journal
    How about that, I'm boycotting them & didn't even know it.

    Jaysyn
  • by renderhead ( 206057 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @08:56AM (#10011378)
    They've effectively protected themselves from the threat of you buying a copy. Is that the copy protection they were going for?
  • by admdrew ( 782761 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @09:49AM (#10011828) Homepage
    ...disabling any access to Windows?

    We could only be so lucky... :P

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 19, 2004 @10:21AM (#10012141)
    Some of us have grown up and stopped playing games.

    Some of us need to grow up and stop trolling slashdot.

  • by infinite9 ( 319274 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @10:31AM (#10012236)
    Boycotting it won't work.

    This is true. Only by defeating Malak can we bring about the destruction of the Star Forge.

    Pazaak anyone?
  • by Stalyn ( 662 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @11:39AM (#10013178) Homepage Journal
    Hi, I'm the author. Please calm yourself and read this post with a clear mind.

    impossible

    How hypocritical Slashdotters are. When stories are posted of stupid lawsuits because someone was careless in purchasing or using a product and did themselves/their family harm, you jump all over them. High and mighty. Superior, intelligent, all-knowing.

    welcome to slashdot

    It is really time for a major self-evaluation amongst gamers. I'm extremely disappointed that even such an intelligent crowd as here simply repeats the same crybaby pro-piracy mantras after they shit their own beds and don't like the smell. Yeah, invasive copy protection sucks royal ass but the only reason it's there is because of you.

    You're obviously insane.

    Piracy will always exist and no matter how hard a game is to crack it will eventually be cracked. What a human intelligent mind does can be undone by the same mind.

    So, how about trying to limit piracy by making a game worth buying. Consumers have money and are willing to spend it and most of them do faster then they earn it. Trying to somehow connect piracy to dwindling profits is a weak argument. First you presuppose that your product is even worth buying which it some cases it is not. Second piracy is hard to track and even harder to prove how much profit is lost by stealing.

    The solution is rather simple, make games that are worth buying. Improve your product. Blaming profit loss on consumers is like a farmer blaming dirt.
  • by nacturation ( 646836 ) <nacturation AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday August 19, 2004 @12:00PM (#10013459) Journal
    And many of the commercials on TV say "Own it now" etc.. or "Own it now on video and dvd" in the case of movies etc, so by their own admission you now own it having purchased it.

    As compared to many video game sites which say "Pwn them now!" instead.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 19, 2004 @02:14PM (#10015148)
    ". . . the technology used in StarForce3 is actually reverse engineered from CD-Cops"

    CD-Cops should have used copy protection.
  • by snuf23 ( 182335 ) on Thursday August 19, 2004 @05:36PM (#10017284)
    Hate to feed a troll but:

    "We don't stop playing because we grow old... we grow old because we stop playing."
    -George Bernard Shaw

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