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Flash Mob Gang Warfare 325

TexasDex writes "You've all heard of flash mobs and Flash Mob Computing. Now here's a new twist on the flash mob phenomenon: Almost 3 dozen people were arrested for a March 3 street fight. 'What makes this case unusual is how the clash was arranged: via a profanity-laced Internet chat room.' Apparently two Dallas gangs, after trading insults in a chat room, traded their keyboards for fists and baseball bats and arranged a time to meet and duke it out in real life. The gang members were later identified and arrested with the aid of a digital video tape of the brawl. According to one officer, 'Some of them actually signed in with their true names, so that helped us identify people.'"
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Flash Mob Gang Warfare

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  • God willing... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by digitalunity ( 19107 ) <digitalunity&yahoo,com> on Friday May 14, 2004 @12:28AM (#9147906) Homepage
    One of these days, all the gangs will just shoot each other. Their existence is self-perpetuating. I don't blame members because I fully understand what they get out of it. I only wish they could fill their psychological needs with more constructive activities.
  • Chat logs anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 14, 2004 @12:31AM (#9147927)
    Does anyone have the chat-log of that chat-session?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 14, 2004 @12:33AM (#9147943)
    If gangs are going to do the 'disrespect' thing on-line rather than via grafitti, and the other methods mentioned in the article, it'll save public infrastructure.

    Do us a favour guys and also hold your fights somewhere out of the way?

  • by evilWurst ( 96042 ) on Friday May 14, 2004 @01:18AM (#9148176) Journal
    The problem with that is that the stronger/smarter members would survive. Then we'd have stronger gangs that are better at killing... indeed, very Darwinistic. But also the exact opposite of what the rest of the law abiding community wants.
  • by KalvinB ( 205500 ) on Friday May 14, 2004 @01:47AM (#9148300) Homepage
    someone uploaded "If Your Mother Only Knew" which a personal site run by some Asian "gangster" picked up on. I'm assuming he was some kind of ganster because what little I could read sounded pretty rough. Who knew AOL speak could sound tough? I know about it because they hotlinked it and my bandwidth was getting sucked up.

    So I changed it to a low bit quality version of "You Are My Sunshine."

    It didn't take long for them to lose the hot link to my site. And I didn't have to say anything to them.

    I can't help but think this mob problem could have been avoided if someone had just injected the forum with some happy fun kids' songs. Too much anger and stupidity, not enough funny.

  • Nothing new (Score:2, Interesting)

    by elh_inny ( 557966 ) on Friday May 14, 2004 @02:12AM (#9148412) Homepage Journal
    Perhaps it's a shock for you American people, but here in Poland we have plenty of meetings called "ustawka" (which means "setup" or "arrangement").
    Usually, it's between football fans. They enter the opposite team's website/forum post some vulgar notes, arrange a meeting and fight.
    I've never been into such a fight because you never know what's going to happen, bunch of forty crazed people fighting each other with no rules.
    But it ain't as bad as it was in the 90's since they don't use weapons anymore. However in Ukraine, for instance, it is still the case, they use chains, bats, knives even guns.
    The general rule is: the further east you go the worse the manners.
    In contrast could you imagine, for instance, NBA fans fighting each other over a lost game? I envy you US and Canadian citizens for living in a civilised country.
  • Re:Why this fails... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Felinoid ( 16872 ) on Friday May 14, 2004 @03:26AM (#9148634) Homepage Journal
    > Equally how do we know that they don't exist

    Actually I can explain this one logicly. And then disprove myself becouse I'm insain.

    Dumb luck/Nobodys perfict:
    There will always be at least some trace of a crime the trick is to prevent being identified not prevent the crime from being known.

    If your stuff is missing you will know that much. If someone dies you'll know it.
    The crime is recorded.

    On that token New York has some very smart murders.

    The real trick however is to insure it is never recognised as a crime.
    Don't steal or murder. Logicly speaking there is just to much eye on that.
    Don't con your trying to outsmart people eventually someone will outsmart you and you'll be in jail.

    Do something nobody thought of before. Do it well. Do it and make sure nobody sees it for what it really is.

    Here is an idea.
    Let's say you dislike cell phones. Start rummors about how cell phones cause cancer. Get some studys done. Typical school yard gosup done in the press.
    Now you have whole communitys not letting anyone set up cell phone towers.

    How about you dislike a company.
    You need a group so convence a group of people this company is evil and then get them to work with you.
    Now rotating members of this close knit group (not a bunck of dorks on the Internet but a few jerks in your local community) go interacting with the employees and try to convence then to do things the wrong way or to quit.
    Don't EVER come out and say anything just drop hints.
    (If this dose not work inside 6 months STOP. One of the people your dealing with is probably both brillent and insain. You'll be cought eventually)

    So long as there is no law covering what your doing your pritty much in the clear even if your cought.
    IANAL the preveous statement is not legal adavice don't do it.
  • Re:Scoop! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by SEWilco ( 27983 ) on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:11AM (#9151595) Journal
    ... in Texas I am shocked, awed, and dismayed at the complete lack of firearms in this disagreement.

    If all the neighbors and bystanders are armed, would it really be a good idea to wave a gun around?

    An armed society is a polite society. Particularly polite in practicing proper aiming etiquette.

Fear is the greatest salesman. -- Robert Klein