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OO.org Selects Its Own Sea Bird 413

Elektroschock writes "A new mascot of the OO.org project was announced today: A crazy sea gull. I wonder whether it will help to convince office workers of Open Office. "Andrea [Maggioni]'s contribution is not only beautiful and effective but also illustrates the potential of young people to contribute importantly to real projects under the banner of Free and Open Source Software." Andrea, "whose cheerful drawing, of a fun-looking seagull holding a fish, plays on the "OOo" shorthand of OpenOffice.org"... ehemm, it's a crazy sea gull."
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OO.org Selects Its Own Sea Bird

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  • Pun on (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ciroknight ( 601098 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:41PM (#8969215)
    Migration? maybe?
  • by Mr. Darl McBride ( 704524 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:42PM (#8969222)
    I'm glad people are getting a kick out of this. I really enjoyed orchestrating the competition (I do more than troll Slash, you know), and Andrea and the other candidates did a bang-up job. We couldn't be more proud.

    Voting is of course closed, but if you'd like to see the other students' submissions, our voting page [skittlebrau.org] is still displayed. You can click on the individual images for a larger view.

    Also, a minor point of clarification regarding Timothy and Elektroschock's write up -- this is not a mascot for OOo. This is a mascot for OooEdu, the new Schools Project of Open Office.org. Please, read the attached article to learn about what the OOoEdu aims to do, and how you can help. We're an active and devoted community, and there are things you can do to further OOo's acceptance in schools, even if you can't contribute a line of code!

    • by orkysoft ( 93727 ) <[moc.xoblaerym] [ta] [tfosykro]> on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:49PM (#8969594) Journal

      Okay, so I sinned and did RTFA. Here's a quote from the last paragraph, which is ROTFLMAO, IMHO.

      Context: case study of OOo being burned to CD in a school project.

      One of the students has suggested we try to get individuals and local organisations to sponsor individual disks and this is something we'll definitely be considering - Chris is already working on a draft letter to Bill Gates!

      It'll be a cold day in hell when Bill Gates will sponsor OOo for schools! That would go straight against his business strategy in so many ways...

  • Only for OOoEdu (Score:5, Informative)

    by Mr. Sketch ( 111112 ) * <mister.sketch@nOspAM.gmail.com> on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:42PM (#8969226)
    I think I should point that that I believe this mascott is just for the OOoEdu project, not for the OpenOffice.org project as a whole.
  • Please note (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Please note that this is not a new general OpenOffice.org mascot, but one for "The recently established Schools Project of OpenOffice.org (OOoEdu)"
    • Re:Please note (Score:5, Insightful)

      by pvt_medic ( 715692 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:57PM (#8969328)
      thats good to hear, because while it is a nice picture and all. I dont think this is the logo that will get them international respect as an alternative to microsoft office.

      However i do applaud them for involving school aged children into this project and their efforts to bring open office to schools. This will not only save schools hundreds of dollars (more like thousands) but also will having children involved with the development of such a product has countless educational value.

      I tip my hat to them
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:43PM (#8969229)
    Gully says:

    "It looks like you're trying to run Microsoft Office via WINE. Would you like me to poop on it for you?"
  • by Xpilot ( 117961 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:44PM (#8969239) Homepage
    ...from "Finding Nemo", where that seagull picks up our fishy hero.

    Oh and there's only one 't' in 'mascot'.

  • Damn. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Zebra_X ( 13249 )
    That seagull was drawn by a 4th grader. While I don't think that they need to go "mainstream" with a mascot. It certainly can't hurt their cause any to have a mascot that is a little more serious.
  • by oldosadmin ( 759103 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:44PM (#8969245) Homepage
    1) This is just the mascot for OOOEdu, not OOo.

    2) It was a childs drawing, who won a competition.

    I think it's quite cute.
  • That fish looks just a little too happy to be held by a seagull. Doesn't it know that the seagull is going to eat him?
    • Doesn't it know that the seagull is going to eat him?

      "If you destroy me, I will only become more powerful!"

      -Adam
    • Obviously you know nothing about non-verbal language.

      The bird is qualitatively meassuring an oriffice...
    • by Anonymous Coward
      That fish looks just a little too happy to be held by a seagull. Doesn't it know that the seagull is going to eat him?
      They did say the seagull was crazy, you never know.
    • by incom ( 570967 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:52PM (#8969600)
      True. Does the fish really recongnize it's own mortality, does a fish try to squirm away out of discomfort, instinct, or actual fear of death. Thanks for bringing up the quality of metaphysical discussion here at slashdot, although valid sometimes the paradoxi of soviet russia get a little worn out.
    • by Waffle Iron ( 339739 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @11:05PM (#8969650)
      That fish looks just a little too happy to be held by a seagull.

      I don't know. The first thing that I thought was that that seagull looks totally stoned. It's got bloodshot eyes, messed up hair, a zoned out expression, and its fingers look just like they're holding a joint. It's pretty easy to mentally add an enormous smoldering doobie to the image.

      The fish has a huge smile on his face and is staring directly at the seagull's virtual joint. He may be anticipating that the seagull is going to be kind enough to give him a puff or two.

      Hopefully the seagull doesn't have the munchies.

  • PETA (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Yoda2 ( 522522 )
    I bet the PETA people will make a bunch of noise over this. Remember when they portrayed that fish out of water at the end of that Faith No More video?
  • Oh well. (Score:2, Insightful)

    Microsoft's products all use formless colored figures as mascots. How come we don't get to use boring mascots like they do? All we get to use are high quality creative characters. That's not fair. I think all free/open source programs should adopt boring businesslike formless colored figures, so we can appear as boring as that crowd.
    • Re:Oh well. (Score:3, Interesting)

      by telstar ( 236404 )
      "Microsoft's products all use formless colored figures as mascots. How come we don't get to use boring mascots like they do? "
      • For some reason when somebody thinks about using a word-processor, an icon with a pen on it comes to mind before a seagull grasping a fish. I know ... I know ... It doesn't make sense to me either.


  • I really hope that they limit this mascot to the EDU subproject.

    Quite frankly, the gull looks slightly... challenged. Not a good image for either open office or for a subprject aimed at schools :)

    -naeem

  • by GringoGoiano ( 176551 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:51PM (#8969281)
    In Brazil the mascot will look like a perverted psychopath with a thing for fish.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 25, 2004 @09:59PM (#8969341)
    The "OK" sign is another way of referring to the female genetalia in some countries, and is considered obscene, which could be a bit of an impediment to OO use in some countries.

    Maybe they should have researched this a bit more...
    • good point (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:06PM (#8969378)
      This is pretty much the same reason that Microsoft did away with their upraised middle finger logo.
    • The "OK" sign is another way of referring to the female genetalia in some countries, and is considered obscene...

      Given all the European snickering about Americans complaining when Janet Jackson showed a tit on TV, I would think they wouldn't care about hand gestures. :-)

  • OOo means dead in UO (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rexguo ( 555504 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:00PM (#8969347) Homepage
    In the MMORPG Ultima Online, everytime someone mutters something like "OOo", it means they are dead... In fact, whatever the ghost says will get translated into strings of "OooOOOOoo" unless you have the Spirit Speak skill...
  • Oh great (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dark Lord Seth ( 584963 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:03PM (#8969361) Journal
    Andrea receives a great prize of a web-hosting service for one year, 200 Mb of web space on a Linux server, with 50 IMAP/POP3 mailboxes (protected from virus and spam), unlimited aliases, one IP address, PHP/MySQL/PostGreSQL support, and the registration of an .it .com .net or .org domain name. The prize is donated by E4A, a Free Software based ISP that supports the OpenOffice.org community.

    That's a nice price, sure. But for a girl who's prolly still in high school or maybe even elementary school?

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Seriously.

    That gull looks like it's itching to ask you:

    "So.... do you wanna get high?"
  • Andrea receives a great prize of a web-hosting service for one year, 200 Mb of web space on a Linux server, with 50 IMAP/POP3 mailboxes (protected from virus and spam), unlimited aliases, one IP address, PHP/MySQL/PostGreSQL support, and the registration of an .it .com .net or .org domain name.

    Uhhh.. she's 15. I guess we know why her sister's boyfriend talked her into contributing.

  • Cuter... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by megabyte405 ( 608258 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:09PM (#8969396)
    http://ryand.net/oss/abi/abiantgnomepencil.png [ryand.net]
    AbiWord Word Processor [abisource.com]


    (leave off the file name for more images of Abi the Ant)
  • branding (Score:4, Insightful)

    by taj ( 32429 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:15PM (#8969429) Homepage
    Now that open source is becomming more popular, this branding is inevitable. A sign of success. But I hope these efforts stay focused on their target audience.

    Maybe its just me. But I'm really getting tired of open source branding efforts. Go ahead and do this stuff but have developer.*.org with none of this. I dont care about branding. I'm interested in the code, the bugs and the developer discussion.

    At developer.*.org place the following one click away with no product branding:

    source tars
    cvs information
    bug reporting
    developer mail lists and archives.

    Fairly simple request. Nobody will go to developer.*.org for binaries.

    Consider developers a seperate 'branding' effort.
    Its my impression the branding efforts how their understand users but not developers. Keep them away.

    Cute bird. have fun.
  • This mascot is aimed at the effort to attract greater use of OpenOffice in the schools. I like the use of the bird and fish together to give a sense of "flocking" to "schools" :-)
  • Is it... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Cyno01 ( 573917 )
    A lesbian seagul?
  • by telstar ( 236404 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:22PM (#8969473)
    Thanks to Google, I was able to dig up one more photo of the OO.org mascot.

    image1 [noaa.gov],
  • What? (Score:3, Funny)

    by levin ( 170168 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:22PM (#8969474) Homepage
    I hate to be critical, it's a great drawing, but why is the fish smiling?

    his ass is about to get eaten!
  • by brian728s ( 666853 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:29PM (#8969499)
    This just in... Pixar sues OO.org for tracing a screenshot from "Finding Nemo".
  • Maybe I'm just going to come across as stupid because it's obvious to everyone but me... but why is a crazy seagull holding a fish "a play on the 'OOo' shorthand of OpenOffice.org"? Is this supposed to be the world's most incomprehensible pun, or what?
  • by PrintError ( 708568 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:38PM (#8969539) Journal
    ...then the new company motto:
    Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

    ignore the sig
  • by Eric_Cartman_South_P ( 594330 ) on Sunday April 25, 2004 @10:53PM (#8969604)
    First, know that the "OK" sign in many countries is considered vulgar, and in a lot of Europe is a way to signify a pussy, vagina, female genitalia, in a vulgar regerence.

    Second, know that a fish, in the united states, is a non-direct however clear reference to the same. Pussy. Vagina. The odor of both is what has made the two a match in American vernacular.

    Now, look at the photo again, and you will see a hard-core, sex crazed bird with two big references to pussy. I am laughing so hard right now I can't breathe. Need... help... and a 15 year old girl created this?!?!? Arrg.... short of breath.... help... too... funny...

    • On the first point, most people who would be offended by the "OK" sign are very well aware of its popular use in America and several other countries...

      The fish, however... No, I don't think they 'match in American vernacular'. I'd say smells in either would have more to do with bacteria (death in one, treatable conditions in the other) than anything else. When I think of "Long John Silver's", my gutterthoughts don't go any lower than "Silverfish Platter".
  • Why is the fish so happy?
  • I think some cultures may be offended by the sign the bird is flashing with its free wing. Ranks up there with the raised middle finger for some.

    Before you pick a logo, or mascot, it is wise to consult with experts. Just wait until the Germans get online in a few hours.

  • by KnightStalker ( 1929 ) <map_sort_map@yahoo.com> on Sunday April 25, 2004 @11:54PM (#8969813) Homepage
    open source mascots MUST EAT FISH. Seriously. Besides the obvious Tux, demons, gimps and gnomes certainly eat fish. Blowfish eat other fish. (I didn't look that up. I'm just assuming, for the sake of my argument, that they do.) A few members of Monty Python were in a movie where Kevin Kline ate live goldfish. Platypuses (the Darwin project) eat fish.

    There is nothing even remotely fish-related about the wildebeest. What does this mean for the GNU project?
  • by Rick and Roll ( 672077 ) on Monday April 26, 2004 @12:15AM (#8969869)
    Please accept this ascii art as a token of my appreciation to OO.org.

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    -- -- Thank you, Andrea Maggioni
  • by roj3 ( 179124 ) on Monday April 26, 2004 @12:38AM (#8969922) Homepage
    >>1) This is just the mascot for OOOEdu, not OOo.

    >>2) It was a childs drawing, who won a competition.
    >>I think it's quite cute.

    The problem is, it doesn't matter if it's "just" the mascot for OOOedu -- it reflects on the entire OO.org brand. Unfortunately, it communicates "sloppy, stoned bird," rather than "whimsical kid-friendly software."

    The idea of using a kid's drawing is good, but as you see, the results leave you explaining it EVERY TIME ("see.. it was drawn by a kid.. see?). What about incorporating the feedback of kids? What about working with kids to come up with various themes? or having various schools vote on a selection of professional designs?

    Cute isn't going to win us (the open source software movement) any battles.

  • by slipstick ( 579587 ) on Monday April 26, 2004 @01:47AM (#8970188)
    I guess it's time to go back to proprietary software because the Free Software group has obviously lost their drive for just general fun. Sure that mascot looks a little crazy but for crying out loud this is "free" software. You want world domination go clone Napoleon or something.

    Damn people have some fun will you.
  • by adrianbaugh ( 696007 ) on Monday April 26, 2004 @06:03AM (#8970985) Homepage Journal
    It's a shame - the "OK" gesture the bird is making is not universal in its meaning. In Brazil, Germany and Russia it indicates a certain private orifice and is an insult. In France, it is also an insult. It denotes the number zero or the concept of something being worthless.
    I believe in Japan it means something like "I want my change in coins" which, although not particularly insulting, is pretty irrelevant.

    Perhaps a "thumbs-up" gesture ought to be GIMPed over the top, at least as part of an i18n package for the countries affected.

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