MCI Accused of Long-Distance Call Accounting Fraud 196
drcobb writes "According to the New York Times, MCI is under investigation again. This time for spoofing SS7 point codes to avoid paying access tariffs.
Federal prosecutors have opened an investigation in the United States and Canada into accusations that MCI, the nation's second-largest long-distance carrier, defrauded other telephone companies of at least hundreds of millions of dollars over nearly a decade, people involved in the inquiry said."
So... (Score:5, Interesting)
Rus
Re:So... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:So... (Score:2)
It's like the gaspumps in Illinois used to have stickers on them stating: "We have calculated the maximum legal price and our fuel is at or below that price". At least they're not lying about it
Wow. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Funny)
Yes and yes. Companies today are being managed by MBAs who don't know a fucking shit about the way business actually works, all they know about is "administration". MBAs never get into the detais, they only think in the big picture. If it isn't shown in power-point slides, then it doesn't exist. If fraud wasn't in the business plan, or if it wasn't mentioned by the marketing consultants, it doesn't exist.
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Informative)
Even that is a stretch. Having dealt with various Worldcom entities for more than a decade as a carrier customer, I'd argue that it's hard to claim that there was any organized administration.
Ebbers was a rabid M&A man, and he did an exceptional job in keeping the acquirees off balance; e.g. MFS Datanet acquisition (Crowe and other MFS executives got to play "co-CEO for a day" and experienced all the usual Ebbers tricks).
Unfortunately, the consequence of this structural imbalance was a balkenized company. I've been on conference calls where MFS people accused MCI folks who were accusing LDDS folks who were blaming Worldcom folks, and so on (all in front of the customer). One unified company? Not.
In fact, things were so bad in 1998-2000 that circuits would routinely be lost or even killed by incompatible systems. We had DS3s from Washington to NYC which were originating and terminating feature group D circuits (for local phone calls from Bell Atlantic to the carrier I worked for) that one Worldcom system would label incorrectly (putting a code on the circuits that indicated it was temporary), and another started killing off when so many months passed without a change in the code to a permanent status.
Amazingly, Worldcom couldn't restore the circuits. They claimed that once a circuit was killed, the only solution was to create a new circuit. This took weeks (with disrupted traffic), only to go through the same problems three months later when the new circuits would get knocked down. Suffer a half-year of this abuse and you'll see all of your local long distance customers disappear as this carrier did.
I always suspected anticompetitive practices behind the activities, and surprisingly it's not difficult to construct. Looking at the practices as a business "denial-of-service attack", minor decisions (like not funding and fixing compatibility problems between systems that only affects carrier customers) end up having strategic value. Combine that with a "we're too large to respond, investigate or care" attitude, e.g. Worldcom billing's inability to figure out how to properly credit, and you've got a pretty effective strategy (Qwest is another notorious "goof and refuse credit" player - if you've got the attorneys and the size, I guess they feel the need to use them to stall customer refunds). This was one literally hundreds of experiences of this nature with Worldcom.
It'll be interesting to see of the Feds look into Worldcom's "leaky PBX" operations, where they routinely dumped international calls into foreign telephone networks without paying settlement. By obtaining local phone lines to a office PBX, and back-ending the PBX with international circuits (often satellite links on the office building), Worldcom would sneak traffic in and dump it without paying any per-minute rate - much similar to some of the local termination abuse claims being investigated now.
In Worldcom's defense, many carriers also employed leaky PBX.
*scoove*
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
After about a year they got bought by Brooks Fiber Communications (Burger, Fries, and a Coke). About 6-9 months after that they got bought by the Borg (Worldcom). Shortly after that Worldcom bought MCI.
I said it then and I'll say it now, If WorldCom would have gotten out of its own way they could have ruled telecom i
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
Yes and yes. Companies today are being managed by MBAs who don't know a fucking shit about the way business actually works, all they know about is "administration". MBAs never get into the detais, they only think in the big picture. If it isn't shown in power-point slides, then it doesn't exist. If fraud wasn't in the business plan, or if it wasn't mentioned by the marketing consultants, it doesn't exist.
Why was the above modded as "funny"? Aside from the "fraud" slight, it seems to be pretty accurate.
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Wow. (Score:5, Informative)
The calls that were switched onto another LD carrier would be much more difficult to backtrace, because they would all show origination from whatever local office they were transferred through. They most likely had forged source information that showed the origination as the local office that they were first illegally transferred to. That's a double whammy, not only are they getting out of termination tarrifs, but they are actually using their competitor's infrastructure for free and charging the termination fee to them to boot! Wow.
Re:Wow. (Score:3, Informative)
My home phone rang, and I read the caller ID. It was an unfamiliar local number, showing no name, just the city. The caller, however, was in another city. He was making an ordinary LD call using his local phone company (no VoIP hacks) and MCI as the LD company. I specifically noted this on two different occasions, with the caller's real locations on opposite sides of the country (NY and CA).
The local number at my end be
Re:Wow. (Score:4, Informative)
Justice Department officials have evidence that MCI may, in effect, have "laundered" calls through small telephone companies, and even redirected domestic calls through Canada, to avoid paying access fees or shift them to rival long-distance carriers, according to people involved in the investigation.
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
MCI plagued with lack of ethical integrity (Score:4, Insightful)
On a lighter note, perhaps MCI will change their name again after this is all behind them?
Re:MCI plagued with lack of ethical integrity (Score:2)
Re:MCI plagued with lack of ethical integrity (Score:2)
On a lighter note, perhaps MCI will change their name again after this is all behind them? :-)
Of, course. Back to WorldCom again to avoid the taint of MCI's shady deals. :) It appears this company is just bad to the bone, no matter what you call it, and it's not just due to the buyout by WorldCom. A number of people that I went to college with were gung-ho when hired by MCI but were quickly relieved of their idealism. (There, but for the grace of God, go I.) After interviewing with them, I was less
(OT) Google.. (Score:5, Interesting)
(Maybe Slashdot can become an NYT partner..)
Re:(OT) Google.. (Score:5, Interesting)
MCI defrauds other websites by pretending its long-distance calls are actually local calls.
Slashdot defrauds other websites by pretending its someone else.
Though to be honest, you could (last I checked) put slashdot in there and it would function -- but you could also put in 'ILOVEABIGPENIS' as a partner and it would show the article as well, so maybe that doesn't say anything afterall.
Re:(OT) Google.. (Score:2)
Re:(OT) Google.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:(OT) Google.. (Score:2)
Website registration sucks, anyway. They just feed the harvested data to some annoying form of spammer scum, anyhow.
Re:(OT) Google.. (Score:2)
accounting? (Score:5, Insightful)
Accounting? Looks like just lying to me.
Justice Department officials have evidence that MCI may, in effect, have "laundered" calls through small telephone companies, and even redirected domestic calls through Canada, to avoid paying access fees or shift them to rival long-distance carriers, according to people involved in the investigation.
Remember, though, that MCI was Worldcom. (Worldcom changed their name to MCI).
"We were told that Project Invader was an exploitation of a tariff loophole, a trick. We kept the project a secret. The traffic was ramped up slowly to avoid detection."
Seriously, 'Project Invader'? Who comes up with these project names? Are you just asking to be caught?
Re:accounting? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:accounting? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:accounting? (Score:1)
Screw ss7 spoofing, just confuse the heck out of the billing departments..
Re:accounting? (Score:3, Funny)
Hmmm... What's the difference?
Re:accounting? (Score:2)
Accredited professional lying is reserved to MBAs and statisticians -- totally different fields from accounting. :)
Re:accounting? (Score:2)
spoofing ss7? (Score:5, Informative)
What does spoofing ss7 point codes have to do with this?
Oh, you can't really spoof ss7 point codes, otherwise the return ( cells? ) have no way of getting back to you, so how do you expect to terminate a call? hmmm?
dumbass.
get some clue before you write about telephony related things.
oh, every facilities-based provider gets around getting billed for access, especially when you're talking about intrastate calls. ILEC will bill you roughly 3.5 cents a minute, new CLECs do the same thing, older CLECs charge more but will have to reduce their access costs.
for interstate calls, you're getting hit for half a cent a minute.
there is a document on this somewhere on the fcc site describing how the rates have to go down, and what the rates have to be for intra/inter state access charges.
get some clue.
He may need a clue (Score:2)
Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:5, Insightful)
How do the honest companies ever stay in business, much less turn a profit?
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:5, Insightful)
1. The cynical part of me says that the remaining companies aren't necessarily more honest, they're just better at avoiding getting caught. Or just plain luckier. Or maybe they place more bribes at the right places.
The honest companies don't have to spend millions on litigation brought about by cheating; they don't get caught because they haven't done anything wrong.
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:2)
The honest companies don't have to spend millions on litigation brought about by cheating; they don't get caught because they haven't done anything wrong.
There are still honest companies? The honest CEOs, who have a genuine concern for the company, get *replaced* because they aren't pumping the stock to double-digit, short-term increases like the fraudsters are. And which type of CEO is the one praised in the press and rewarded with millions of dollars by the board of directors?
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:2)
How about "3. Crime doesn't pay"? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How about "3. Crime doesn't pay"? (Score:4, Insightful)
Only in the long term. Other costs of fraud (like the lawyers you mentioned) don't come into the picture until months or years after you got your first ill-gotten gains.
Sure, it's ultimately cheaper in the long term, but somehow I don't think the average day trader gives a damn about long-term profitability...
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:2)
Truly 'corpora
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:2)
Easy--good/competent people with solid businesses don't need to lie, cheat or steal. Also, liars grossly underestimate the extent to which their lies cost them in credibility, which in terms costs them in almost infinite but intangible ways.
Re:Cheat, lie, and steal and *still* go bankrupt (Score:2)
Where there's fraud and corruption, there's someone trying to make a buck through means other than hard work. A company whose executives would rather lie and cheat than to put in an honest day's work, is a company that has learned to avoid competing. The avoidance of competition breeds incompetence.
I work for a government contractor, in a field where there's only a couple of competitors left. The government simply hands out contracts in turn to
has the worldcom stuff been settled? (Score:1)
KOalaBear33
Overhead (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Overhead (Score:1, Insightful)
Accounting Costs (Score:2)
Hardcore MCI (Score:5, Funny)
What would ss7 spoofer be called? A plaid box?
Phreaking for beginners (Score:4, Informative)
Nope, plaid box is taken. A plaid box [i12.com] is a a box for converting ma bell's pulse-phone lines to touch-tone lines.
More boxes [i12.com] than you can shake a handset at.
Not exactly uncommon in telecoms... (Score:5, Informative)
Most billing systems in telecoms infrastructure work on trust to some extent. That is, billing is based on information such as the originator address, but many telecoms systems do not verify this kind of data except in a limited way.
In a general sense, once you are on a telecoms network, your partners trust you to play fair, but there is not a general paranoia. Historically this was because nationalized telcos had no reason to cheat.
This is a particular headache for SMS operators, since it is relatively easy for fraudulent operators to send SMS traffic with spoofed originating addresses. The traffic is either billed to the wrong parties, or at the wrong rate.
Obviously whenever this kind of fraud gets uncovered, people tighten up their security. But often the cost of doing this is so high that it's a last step, not a first one.
Think of unsecured email and you get a fair analogy.
Perhaps a telco insider has a better view?
Lied to customers and competitors (Score:5, Interesting)
I guess It's not surprising that they tried to cheat their competitors too.
We've never had MCI. Once they called, and told me wife that they were going to give us $20 to make up for all of the long distance phone problems we'd been having. When the verifier comes on the line [to verify that we wanted to switch to MCI], just say yes to all the questions.
I avoid MCI and AT&T. They are both liers.
Kevin
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:4, Interesting)
I had a friend that worked for a company that did cold calls to retailers to distribute sporting goods.
She was taught the following.
She would be given a lead. The lead would have a contact name, address and telephone number on it.
She would call and say:
"I am calling from such and such. You guys ordered a quantity of sports jersey's from us 2 weeks ago. I am very sorry for how late the delivery is, but we seem to have some confusion with your address."
At which point she repeats the address (intentionally screwing it up) to the hapless employee on the other end of the phone.
While she is at it she also 'double checks' the payment and billing information.
She says 'Thank You' and hangs up the phone.
BLAAAAM now how is that for evil?
Now I used to do something that I don't think is nearly as evil as that. I used to work for a Window manufacturer and installer, Appleby Windows. For the most part they were honest. They didn't do scams like I described.
As a matter of fact I was encouraged to purge the schedules of single owner retired people cause it is just too sleazy to send a rep out to people like that.
My job worked something like this.
I had a territory that I was responsible for, say Allentown Pennsylvania.
I had a number of sales reps in that territory. Each rep was promised to have 1 lead a day M-F and 2 on Saturday. So I needed to supply a total of 7 leads a week for each rep.
Now these reps are pure commision. No sale, no eat. So they took those 7 leads dead serious.
Well anyone that has done this sort of work can tell you that crappy appointments are a real problem. Reps get to houses and they are stood up, a homeowner isn't present, it is a rental.. blah, blah, blah. There are a ton of problems that can make the trip out to the house by the rep a waist of time.
To resolve this problem we would have callers intentionaly overbook the schedules. Then I would call each home and 'confirm' the appointment with the homeowner. I was trained to firm up the appointments and to qualify them. If they passed my approval they got put on the schedule for that night.
Well I was required to have a demo rate of 85%. 85% of all my leads had to be saleable, no they didn't have to sell, but the reason they didn't sell must be on the reps end and not mine.
What this all turns into is that in order to give a rep 7 leads a week I actually have to book like 9 or 10. That way he gets 7 leads in spite of 15% of the ones I supply being crappy.
Sorry this is dragging on, but the evil thing I did wouldn't make any sense unless you understood the motivation for it.
So what happens when none of my leads are crappy and they are all good? We end up standing up good, qualified customers who just might buy our product.
So once I decide that everything is cool and I need to blow off the appointments here is what I did:
'Hello Mr Smith?'
'Yeah this is (insert my name) I am calling from Appleby. I am looking for my rep, Fred Wilson. I apologize for disturbing you during your estimate, but this is something of an emergency.'
At this point Mr. Smith's reaction varies. Some people are confused, others pissed - whatever I didn't care.
I try to say the next bit with a combination of relief, concern and if I can muster it just a little bit of distraction, like I am juggling stuff in an emergency situation.
'Oh dear he isn't there?!?! Ummm... I'll tell you what Mr. Smith this might just be good news.
But I need a favor.
Fred's son was just involved in an automobile accident. Apparently he is hurt pretty bad. Fred's wife is hysterical and trying to contact Fred. Fred carries a cell phone and I bet that she contacted Fred after she contacted me.
I can't blame Fred for standing you up, I think I would have to, all things considered.
But Mr. Smith if you could please promise me that if Fred shows up you will tell him just to contact his
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2)
Yeah, I think you get 225 years in the Acid Room in Hell for that. Each offense.
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2)
Personally I would not have done it. My only telemarketing job was at Appleby. They are a legal do things by the books company. No con games there.
What I did IS in bad taste. But it is also illegal.
Besides kind of like you are posting as an Anonymous Coward I didn't give you her name.
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2)
Sorry about that. I got me a bad headache and I didn't proof the message.
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2)
Re:Lied to customers and competitors (Score:2)
That would have been a scam by the contractor. It does not excuse MCI of responsibility of course but you are quite likely to get a call from the same contractor to get you to switch to AT&T.
What a lot of contractors used to
I want a cell phone as big as a classic phone... (Score:5, Funny)
I want to ditch my local carriers entirely. They are too expensive by far and it's a monopoly I don't like (SBC.)
I want a cell phone as big as a class touchtone phone. Big buttons that my kids can use. A devoted 911 button. Real big phone. Weighs a few pounds. So big that you can't toss a book on top of it. It plugs into the wall for power. It's big and has a the best sound quality. And it has a built-in super duper antenna so that it always has five bars of reception.
Now it would be even better if it could share the same number as half a dozen other cell phones. When one rings, they all ring. It wonderful if I could stick a fax or modem jack into it.
Why can't I get that?
CellSocket (Score:4, Informative)
Re:CellSocket (Score:3, Interesting)
It's close. It's too expensive (I mean a BIG, EXTERNALLY POWERED cell phone should cost LESS than a SMALL cell phone with EXOTIC batteries). It also isn't compatible with my current phone and their 2002 copyright and compatibility only with Nokia makes me wonder how they and their product are doing.
But I like it -- it helps confirm to me, that I am not totally crazy.
Thanks!
Be careful what you wish for... (Score:2)
Re:I want a cell phone as big as a classic phone.. (Score:2)
Yeah, good idea. One button that summons a paramilitary response, and gets you arrested if you hit it by accident.
Re:FCC is why (Score:2)
My cell is dual-NAM'd. Two numbers, one phone.
The only place this gets tricky is with the cellular fraud analysis systems, because they have to sort this out..... but as long as theres a hook between provisioning and fraud it'll all work out ok.
Re:FCC is why (Score:2)
I have just exactly that; a "personal number" which rings simultaneously on my cell and on my home number (though I can add up to 10 domestic phonenumbers, and even use a roster (e.g. workplace phone rings only between 9 and 5) through a simple web interface). The provider I'm using at the moment offers free service for me, but the caller does pay a higher char
Alrighty then (Score:5, Interesting)
Accounting Fraud (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Accounting Fraud (Score:5, Interesting)
I've survived seven layoffs so far. Might as well go for eight
This is why corporate charters should be revoked.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's face it. We, the working people, have been screwed for years under the "we're doing this for the shareholder" mantra. We've been asked to take pay cuts, work longer shifts, work weekends unpaid. Meanwhile, this is done not for the shareholders, which see no real increase, but for the top executives who use that extra productivity to support their continued bonus plan.
This has always been about bonuses for execs. This story proves that even more.
The only difference between organized crime and corporate America is where they get their suits tailored.
YES. (Score:2)
I am of two minds about this (Score:2)
Who are the actual owners of MCI? Did they have any knowledge of this? Should they be deprived of property just because the execs (who they indirectly hired) cheated someone else? While revoking charters certainly doesn't go beyond the idea of limited liability for investors, it could have a chilling effect int
Sad to hear (Score:2, Funny)
Re: Sad to hear (Score:2)
> I always thought that the evil greed was with Worldcom, not MCI. From reading the article, it sounds like this started with MCI long before the merger. I was hopeing it was one of the other companies Worldcom of Borg assimilated. Wiltel or MFS or someone else.
Unfortunately I think evil greed is probably the norm rather than the exception. I used to work for a small Pa&Ma shop where the Pa was president of the local Association of Christian Businessmen, and whenever he was doing work for cost + c
Tariffs are the single largest cost?? (Score:1, Insightful)
Does anyone else find this really irritating? That a tax is the single largest cost they face? It seems to me that the government is the real problem here: IMO, good for MCI for trying to keep more of its hard-earned money away from the gaping maw of Uncle Sam.
Re:Tariffs are the single largest cost?? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Tariffs are the single largest cost?? (Score:2)
Cheers,
Kyle
wow, this really sucks (Score:2)
I *do* think it's pretty l33t what MCI has (allegedly) been doing, as a purely technical fascination.
Re:wow, this really sucks (Score:4, Funny)
A message from your friendly WorldCom Executive (Score:4, Funny)
Re:A message from your friendly WorldCom Executive (Score:2)
I understand how this must look to the general public. But I can tell you, if you were in my shoes, you'd do exactly the same. Keeping up with the Joneses in my neigborhood gets very expensive and I've got three kids all looking to go to Ivy League colleges. The bonuses I raked in for this scheme were more than enough to cover this and put a new down payment on a beautiful home in White Plains. What are you doing to ensure your family prospers?
Well, your Executiveness, I'm currently trying to get an int
Time for accounting nerds to show their support ! (Score:5, Funny)
It's time for all accounting nerd to stand up and show their support !
First, we need some "free MCI Worldcom" bumper stickers and t-shirts. This wouldn't of course have any effect on the lawsuit, but we'll feel all great and warm inside.
We might also organize some protests in Washington nobody notices.
And when the MCI management comes out of prison we can all rush to buy their new book "Art of Fraud: Controlling the human element of accounting".
Re:Time for accounting nerds to show their support (Score:4, Interesting)
Throw them in the cllink (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Throw them in the cllink (Score:2)
Just how many major crimes do you have to commit before it ceases to be a civil matter in this country ? Just how many people do you have to harm before its considered criminal or is that just reserved for people that download songs ?
Welcome to the new America, where greed is considered a laudable corporate trait and even many slashbots rush to defend corporate amorality. It is the new order. Orwell was just off by a few decades.
MCI, UUNET *AND* WorldCom - Three sets of thieves (Score:4, Insightful)
If any company ever deserved the death penalty, it's this gang of thieves. Do NOT let WorldCom/MCI/UUNet emerge from bankruptcy. Liquidate the company instead.
Nice timing (Score:2, Funny)
I moved into an apartment after graduation, and tried to get phone service from another phone company, but MCI still had their service on the phone line from the previous tenant. They denied responsibility for the phone line, saying they had cancelled it.
A few long distance phone calls with no one to bill finally got their attention. Idiots...
MCI/WCOM/UUNET in trouble? GOOD! (Score:2, Interesting)
The three constituant parts of this hydra (MCI, WCOM, and UUNET) each have a long history of irresponsiblity to the community - an attitude of "Screw you! We are making money any way possible! You No Likee? Suck ME!". UUNET hosting pink contract spammers, MCI screwing other phone companies, the whole WCOM stock deal.
I hope they
Re:MCI/WCOM/UUNET in trouble? GOOD! (Score:2)
How it really works (Score:5, Informative)
First, how is it supposed to work. SS7 pointcodes are like the IP address of a telephone switch. Messages are routed through an SS7 network that runs between switches to route calls, identify the source and destination information, and generate billing data. There are rather simple ways to conceal the origin of these calls. The ILECs (who own the InterLATA tandems) have gotten their friends, the state PUCs, to continue with quite high orig/term interconnection tarriffs. This is a huge source of revenue for them. The original concept was to pay for the large upfront expenditures to install the interlata tandems with the breakup of AT&T and the entrance of the new (at the time) IXCs. Those switches (and the required capacity upgrades) have been paid for hundreds of times over. When you consider $.05/min long distance and the orig/term fees are $.03-.04/min for both ends you see the IXC isn't exactly making much. Its a little present to the ILECs from the PUCs.
Many companies are doing this today via what is known as the "enhanced service provider exemption". In short, this states that Inter-LATA traffic which is carried across an enhanced services network (VoIP, VoATM, VoFR, etc) is not subject to InterLATA termination fees at the distant end of the call. The rules are pretty vague here and there doesn't appear to be a minimum percentage in the quantity of calls which must be handled by the enhanced services network or a percentage of the overall call distance that must be handled by the enhanced services network. What you get is folks that buy some to handle perhaps a T1s worth of trunks, place them next to each other in the rack, and route a few calls through it within a single office. Under the current rules they now operate an "enhanced services network" and are thus exempt from paying the orig/term InterLATA tarriffs. There is at least one large calling card provider (especially catering to the Hispanic population in the US) that does exactly this. The company then finds a friendly CLEC to allow them to dump their calls into the local network via MF (tone signalled, non-SS7) trunking and the origin of the call will appear to be a local number.
In the old days (pre-1999) there were several companies doing this without bothering to claim the enhanced service provider exemption. I've personally seen companies locate in a CLEC colocation facility and house nothing but a patch panel in a closed cabinet. MF trunks from IXCs (long distance carriers) are brought in on one side, and MF local-access trunks head out the other. This is also known as "dump and term".
When you're MCI (WorldDom) this becomes trivially easy. MCI owns at least 2 CLECs. WorldCom bought Brooks (I ran local operations in 2 cities for Brooks) shortly before the MCI deal. They also bought MFS several years before that. It would be a very simple matter to use an intermediary in each LATA to launder the traffic via MF trunks back into their MFS/Brooks switches and then pass them off to the ILEC (incumbent local exchange carrier) as what appear to be local calls. There isn't any high-tech SS7 munging required here.
This could also be accomplished via some sexy work with SS7 on a switch. It would be like NAT and would rewrite the originating point code and phone number to a local one. The same SS7 hardware would take the messages coming back and rewrite them to go to the proper switch. We do NAT with IP addresses every day. Its not a large stretch to imagine doing it with SS7. I don't see much of a need to though. There are much simpler ways to accompish it.
Hell, if MCI/Worldcom doesn't mind the exposure just run the MF trunks between local and LD switches without the intermediary. It opens up a huge liability hole, but it may have been deemed acceptable.
Re:How it really works (Score:4, Interesting)
I guess one thing I disagree with is the use of MF (or, in North America, usually DTMF to be precise). Not necessary, this is done all the time with ISDN trunks from CLECs (or even ILECs). You get the same effect on a PRI by not providing a CallING Party IE (CallerID in Q.931-speak) in the SETUP message, it will just assign the billing number as CallerID if it is not provided (or if they validate CID and what is provided is not valid for that trunk).
These calling card operators order up PRIs in all the major markets, as if they were a local business user. They bring in the calls via VoIP, then terminate them using their network of local PRIs. The terminating gateways either strip, or fudge to their local directory number, the CallING Party IE. As far as the ILEC (or CLEC for that matter) is concerned, the call is a locally originated call by a legit local business.
Most (all?) of the VoIP termination gear has extensive features to spoof CallerID for this very reason (and for telemarketers, of course). I have even seen folks "randomize" CallerID.
Anyway, did not intend to debunk your explanation, it was quite accurate. Just know that this same concept is done all the time with very simple spoofing in ISDN. ISDN can be obtained very cheaply from any desperate CLEC, is more reliable, shorter connect time (PDD), requires less DSPs in the termination gear (reduces capital costs), and is TRIVIAL to spoof in almost exactly the same way as non-FGD tone-based protocols as you described.
Now that is the US (and Canada, Australia, Western Europe, etc.). I am constantly surprised by the crazy shit they do to get calls into places like India, Bangladesh, Africa, etc.
Re:How it really works (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not a big fan of the origination/termination tariffs for LD calls. If you look at the pricing on LD plans you'll almost always see a lower rate for interstate than intrastate. Its the same LATA tandem terminating both calls on exactly the same hardware. The difference is what the PUC has granted the ILEC (RBOC) on intrastate calls ($.025-.05/min) vs. what the FCC has set as the rate for interstate calls (?? ~$.005/min). An average of $.03/min starts adding up rapidly when you've got millions of channel/minutes per day. There is no technical difference so the only difference is regulatory.
Take it another step and look at the traffic settlements of most CLEC/ILEC interconnection agreements. The ILECs screamed until they got them put into the interconnection agreements. They expected a huge profit center. When the CLECs started signing up all the ISPs the ILECs screamed about "abuse of their network" amazing the difference in "fairness" to the ILEC mind between depositing the checks and having to write them. Even with settlements, they are pretty low. IIRC, $.0002-.0005/min for direct EO term, higher plus mileage for access tandem termination. It varies for each interconnection agreement. If the IXC owns a CLEC and terminates the call either directly to the EO (end-office - also known as LSO) or even via the access tandem then why should the interconnection tariff be 5-10 times higher? Its all in the regulation folks. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I'm very sure its not more regulation.
Re:How it really works (Score:2)
Actually, the vast majority of CAS (non-ISDN, in-band tone signaled) trunks in US/Canada use DTMF, not MF. The most notable exception is FGD trunks, but those are not what the original poster was referring to (as those actually do have ANI/CallerID transmission capability). FGD trunks are becoming more and more rare as SS7 is normally used where they were previously used (Inter-carrier connectivity).
Though I have seen MF in use on some CAS trunks, it is not com
Telecom systems business plans (Score:3, Funny)
2) Falsify expenses
3) Slam 'n Cram Customers
4) Cheat business partners
5) Profit!!!
Looking back, was the monolithic monopoly of the Bell System REALLY that bad?
Re:and at the drop of a pin... (Score:5, Funny)
Value. Simplicity. Innovation.
Better:
Slamming. Theives. Liars.
Re:and at the drop of a pin... (Score:2)
Re:and at the drop of a pin... (Score:2)
One pissed of employee can set your whole company on fire, so why do anything criminal when you are gigantic corporation?
FYI: MCI is a Worldcom company so fraud does run in the family.
Re:and at the drop of a pin... (Score:2)
One pissed of employee can set your whole company on fire, so why do anything criminal when you are gigantic corporation?
FYI: MCI is a Worldcom company so fraud does run in the family.
FYI: WorldCom is doing business as MCI. MCI was fraudulent even before WorldCom bought them out. You didn't get hired by MCI unless you agreed with their weird, company-is-everything-and-knows-all mindset. Otherwise, you weren't a "team player".
Re:and at the drop of a pin... (Score:1)
Wait a second (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Too much michael (Score:1)
"It?", you ask? The world is one big company. What contribution the average man makes to its net profit is but a speck of dust on an infinite beach. Where are those people who can and do make differences? Why do most people feel so helpless? What are we going to do in the long run? Problems o
Re:10-10-987 and it's all right after all (Score:3, Funny)
Jesus Christ! Only $0.39 to talk to someone on a Jovian moon? Why hasn't NASA signed up for this?
I guess they make up their money by charging you for the minutes taken up by the light lag.
Re: Without business news slashdot is nothing! (Score:2)
> To put it simply: geeks and nerds are soon to be marginalised in the tech industry. In their place will be MBAs and accountants who will be fully trained in technology. Technology, after all, is not that hard to learn - any businessman with a bit of nous can handle what techies do every day.
Yeah, yeah, we've heard it all before. Fifteen years ago the trade rags were full of bullshit about how fourth generation programming languages were going to let the MBAs cut all those unnessary programmers out o