Why Johnny Can't Handwrite 1356
theodp writes "Handwriting experts fear that the wild popularity of e-mail and IM, particularly among kids, could erase cursive within a few decades. With 90 percent of Americans between the ages of 5 and 17 using computers, it's not uncommon for kids to type 20-30 WPM by the time they leave elementary school. Keyboards, joysticks and cell-phone touch pads have ruined kids' ability to hold a pencil properly, let alone write legibly, says the former president of the International Association of Master Penmen, Engrossers and Teachers of Handwriting."
Nothing Wrong... (Score:2, Informative)
Could erase cursive? (Score:5, Informative)
I started using a computer about mid high school. The same semester I took a six week typing class. I have been using the keyboard about 70 WPM ever since.
I typed everything for school that used to require handwriting. When I got into college, I did the same, but I used a computer unlike most students who used a typewriter.
Now here we are in the 21st century and I can't handwrite worth a crap. I use a Palm OS device with graffiti regularly with decent accuracy. I can sign my name. I can block-print reasonably fast.
But I haven't been able to write cursive since, say, about 1980. Do you know how much impact this has had on my life?
About zip.
We used to require people to know how to take square roots by hand, do long division, or use a slide rule. We don't require these skills anymore? Pocket calculators are everywhere, ubiqutious and disposable. (Not that I don't think it is important to get the basic concepts in grade school.) My point is that what once might have been an important skill may not be in the future.
Shorthand (Score:3, Informative)
I remember going to a special remedial handwriting class when I was in elementary school. My teacher finally gave up and taught me how to type.
Re:Who cares? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, I have always been a fast typist going back to 10 years old and entertainingly, could type faster with two fingers than my junior high type teacher. Proper typing cut my wpm scores back a little, but it was beneficial to learn proper technique. However, my handwriting has always been bad and I tend to default to printing when I have to write. This could be because of my dyslexia, alternatively it could be because I was using a keyboard from the age of 9 or 10.
To address your point though. Not having good penmanship with cursive (or printing for that matter) did not significantly hurt my ability to get into college, or graduate school or obtain consulting positions so......yeah, I guess I agree with you. There are more significant things to worry about like knowledge of mathematics, science, history and literature among other things.
Cursive, you know, script (Score:3, Informative)
I've found that in this "globalized" economy, clearly written English is extremely important to communicate with English-as-n > 1-language speakers. The block style eliminates confusion between letters; the letters are the same as those on a typewriter.
Suffice it to say that I think cursive is pretty useless.
What's the big deal? (Score:2, Informative)
I seem to recall the existence of cursive came about because of the writing devices of the time, ink well + stylus, in which writing using a style that didn't lift the stylus reduced drips and smudges, looking "pretty" was a side effect.
Re:Thumbs (Score:5, Informative)
I think anyone concerned with penmanship (even the word seems a bit too self-important) needs to get over it. My report cards all through elementary school showed "Needs improvement" under penmanship, but it didn't seem to affect my getting A's in everything else. I mean how bad could my writing have been if all of my teachers were able to read and grade it?
denelian writing in grade school (Score:2, Informative)
Lies, damn lies, and complete idiots (Score:5, Informative)
People that force you to use cursive to write your signature are just so unhappy with their lives that they need to exert what little power they have in order to get through their day.
(This coming from someone who signs only the first initial of his first name. Hey, I signed something like 500 letters a day for several years, and it's a hard habit to break
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Re:Good. Is QWERTY is next? (Score:3, Informative)
Unfortunately, we are stuck with it not because it's better, but because it's what everybody uses. Just like M$ Word, VHS, and gasoline powered internal combustion engines.
Re:Not a good enough reason, I think (Score:2, Informative)
Re:You still need handwriting in much of Asia. (Score:3, Informative)
There is a great way to type characters by how they look, not how they are pronounced, do it in five or less keystrokes, and be unique almost every time. The Chinese do this with CangJie
æoeæ--¥ä produces æY¥
æoeæoe produces æz--
It's not always that easy, however.
ç"çæå produces é
ååoeYåç"åf produces è½
çé£çå±± produces å...' (é£ is a special key, meaning "difficult")
I plan on learning it over the summer. It allows you to type quickly when you are good at it, and moreover (as a bonus for students), it helps you remember how to write the characters by hand!
Re:Thumbs (Score:2, Informative)
I got AÂs in languages all the time, but always with the warning Âwrite legiblyÂ.
Bugger that.
I canÂt, I did not choose to be born like this, but I never let it stand in my way.
My father studied electrical engineering in the early 80Âs (when I was a little boy) and back then (donÂt know about now) EE required a course in BASIC programming so we got a commmodore 64 for him to do assignments on.
After he finished, I started toying around on it, and was soon in love with computers. By the time I was 9, I was coding in three languages. I have not written anything more complex than a post-it note by hand since I was 12, nor written anything at all in cursive (which is just stupid if you ask me) yet today I am a programmer - in charge of all developement at one of the fastest growing OSS companies in the world, earning a 5 figure salary.
DonÂt tell me handwriting is important. It is a form elitism nothing more. What matters is being able to read and write, not the medium you do it in. LetÂs focus on increasing world literacy levels, anything else is a waste of everybodies time.
Re:Not a good enough reason, I think (Score:3, Informative)
I have to disagree here, as I am left handed and write faster than most people I know, either in cursive or my own style (a sort of flowing print). The problem is when children are forced to learn a particular writing style and/or use a particular writing implement.
As you will know, writing in any wet ink pen (roller ball, fountain pen, etc) is certain script death for a left hander, unless you write "correctly" by tilting the page and drawing the pen along from above the line, which is obviously slower and a lot more stressful on your muscles.
Taught correctly and using the correct implement (such as a medium or fine ballpoint) a left hander will have no trouble pushing the pen across the page at the same speed that a right hander pulls it.
I will conceed that currently left handers are disadvantaged because of how they have been taught in the past.