Cool Wireless Video Camera For $75 102
phutureboy writes: "Thought the gadget freaks and toy hackers out there would be interested in this badass video camera for kids. It transmits at 900MHz to a base station which has audio/video RCA outs you can connect to a TV or VCR. I bought one at Wal-Mart for $75, and have been fairly impressed with it so far even though it's sort of cheap and plasticky. Got me to wondering what other applications the Slashdot crowd could come up with for it, or whether anyone knew of other inexpensive video cameras suitable for experimentation." CT:You can get an x10 one too. Video
quality kinda sucks tho.
You mean like the Monica cam? (Score:1)
where else has this cheaP? (Score:1)
Excellent in Capture the Flag with Stuff (Score:1)
Anyhoo, a few of these cameras set up in strategically important positions would really kick ass. Of course, for the information to be of much use we would likely require walkie-talkies and such, but such things may be easily procured.
It'd also be great to send one of these things on a remote-controlled car into enemy territory, in an attempt to find their flag and warn of deadly glyphs. As long as it's not captured by the other team, o' course.
(^o^)
Re:X10 equipment (Score:1)
Re:X10 equipment (Score:1)
Re:Do some homework! (Score:1)
While I tend to agree that the average content-per-story ratio does seem to have slipped somewhat lately, it looks (at a glance) like much of the information you mention is here...it's just in the postings from people who have used/seen the camera rather than the "story" itself.
While one can therefore argue that the Powers That Be® of Slashdot are getting lazy and letting the posters do their work for them, pretty much all of the stories do become reasonably informative, once The Slashdot Community® gets to work posting on them (and filtering out the trolls, etc...)
Now, if we could get some of the moderators to not be quite so quick with the "troll" lables (the proportion of what, to me, seem like unreasonable "troll" or "flamebait" or "offtopic" ratings on relevant postings seems a bit high lately...so expect to see this post marked "offtopic" or something any minute now...) we'd be doing pretty good....
A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for Evil.
distance? (Score:1)
http://users.757.org:8080/
X10 equipment (Score:1)
I recently bought a video camera from them. (A hard wired one, not the wireless kind.)
The ads on the site apprear to target people who want to spy on their neighbors. I bought the black and while "night watch" camera so that my wife and I could see our newborn in the nursery. The funny thing is that it takes a substantial amount of light to see the baby - so much light that it would be difficult for the kiddo to sleep!
That camera is rated to be "5 times more sensitive" than their color cameras.
The joke is that based on my experience trying to watch my son, if some pervert wanted to spy on his neighbor the 'target' would need to have every light on full brightness in order for the camera to work.
Warts and all, I think that X10 is a good deal - particularly if you get on their mailing list and use the vouchers that they mail out.
We're going to install the b&w camera on our porch so we can see it from our basement.
YMMV
I did (Score:1)
I put one of those BSR x10 video cameras on a remote control car and followed my cats around my apartment with it. The video reception was quite good once I unplugged the base unit of my Seimens 2GHz cordles phone. Just having the telephone base unit plugged in created a lot of video interference, even with the phone just sitting in the base unit. After that problem was fixed, the remaining problems were that the camera needs a lot of light and its battery pack weighed a lot in comparison to the car.
However, the video camera itself is pretty light. The car's batteries generate 4.5V while the video cameras batteries generate 6V, so I did not try powering the video camera from the car's batteries. It would make a cool holiday present for next year if some company would actually mass produce a remote control car or boat with one of these broadcast cameras built in. Imagine doing computer vision and computer control of a fleet of these.
Re:Do some homework! (Score:1)
Its the way slashdot has always been. If the guys (CmdrTaco and friends) like it, it gets posted. The only reason the quality has gone down is because they've done stories on most of the cool stuff already. Someone doesn't hack some new hardware every day.
-Tripp
I grabbed one of the X10 cameras... (Score:1)
However I was able to get a nice sensitive B&W camera cheap off of E-Bay and hook up the X10 transmitter to it
For now it just sits on my shelf waiting for my time to tinker. All in all it wasn't an expensive purchase and was fun to learn with...
Maybe not a plane but... (Score:1)
Re:CCD Cameras for astronomy (Score:1)
Re:Tiny Camera (Score:1)
Re:Tiny Camera (Score:1)
Like that? Check out this (Score:1)
Action figure movie studio [amazon.com]
only $79!
CCD Cameras for astronomy (Score:1)
Get $100 for Doing the Homework! (Score:1)
grumble grumble preview grumble (Score:1)
Pencam [aiptek.com]
Re:Aiptek (Score:1)
Re:$75 isn't that good a deal... (Score:1)
Re:the X10 one sucks (Score:1)
Re:X10 equipment (Score:1)
Re:X10 equipment (Score:1)
Re:Do some homework! (Score:1)
Fight the power at Slashduh [slashduh.org]
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Re:X10 equipment (Score:1)
Fisher Price Cam? (Score:1)
Any better ones out there? (Score:1)
Does anyone know of cameras that could do this for a reasonable price?
Re:the X10 one sucks (Score:1)
Tiny cameras - cheap (Score:1)
Re:Vide Capture Card + Lego Robot = Security Syste (Score:1)
One word: sigmoidscopy.
Re:Tiny cameras - cheap (Score:1)
Holy cow! That camera is down to $35 now. Thanks for the link, I got me some SHOPPIN' to do!
Re:X10?!? (Score:1)
I ordered 3x of the Firecracker kits, using friends & family to help. It was a great deal, and I am still using the gear today.
X-10 has some pretty crummy service, though. I ordered something else from them later on, and I got it -- along with someone ELSE'S "DVD Anywhere" wireless A/V gear.
These days, I prefer to use Smarthome for X-10 stuff, though I am always tempted by the cameras they plug at x10.com.
Mindstorm Bot cam (Score:1)
Re:Tiny Camera (Score:1)
Bilinear Amp (Score:1)
what if ... (Score:1)
hmmm....
E.
Re:I've got one of these (Score:1)
LOL! What was the application you had in mind here?!
"Aha! I knew it! Those bastard chicken nuggets laugh at me when I'm not there."
The best place to put one... (Score:1)
Re:I have one.. and it really isn't that good. (Score:1)
Also, I agree that the X10 range is limited. It doesn't get 50 feet in my house, probably because the refrigerator is located at the core of the house and blocks everything.
Applications. (Score:1)
But how about
Cam in the ladies shower.
Cam to watch the kid.
Cam in the Ladies Bathroom.
Cam for secret agent.
Cam in the Victoria Secret store changing room.
Cam for the tech freak who has to have everything.
Other then that I don't know what to use it for.
Re:neighborcam (Score:1)
Re:Do some homework! (Score:1)
Re:Vide Capture Card + Lego Robot = Security Syste (Score:1)
Re:Fisher Price Cam? (Score:1)
Re:CCD Cameras for astronomy (Score:1)
Cool camera now what to do with it? (Score:1)
Maybe figure out some alternitive uses for it?
I don't expect the quality to be good enough for snapshots or stuff like that but the wireless aspect of it causes me to think that this could be a really fine geek toy!
Like most wireless things, I am sure that it will have many weaknesses and drawbacks but for those uses that can compensate for them, wireless is a God-send.
Anyone take one apart yet? I'm wondering what else could be added to the signal.
Far more potential than a Furby.
Re:Do some homework! (Score:1)
Sure I've seen kiddie cameras...but one so cheap and for kids gives me a good idea on how to let kids go into some sort of cool production... laugh if you wish... but somewhat [even if the reso. is sorta just above BS
Re:I did (Score:1)
"Titanic was 3hr and 17min long. They could have lost 3hr and 17min from that."
X10 camera (Score:1)
Yes! (Score:1)
Truly, the best way to maintain our freedoms is to be vigilant. So on this front, we can see that the Japansese, in the form of Canon and Nikon, are the guardians of our rights.
KTB:Lover, Poet, Artiste, Aesthete, Programmer.
Re:$75 isn't that good a deal... (Score:1)
Sadly, it appears that
Re:free slashdot software (Score:1)
Re:YOUR SIG, MORON (Score:1)
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Re:Possible application of this "toy" (Score:1)
Re:Interference (Score:1)
Re:neighborcam (Score:2)
neighborcam (Score:2)
I figure one of these recording the view from *inside* my house (to maintain some semblance of legality) would be a nice deterrent. The window's not near a computer, so this wireless camera would be quite convenient. If they got off on the exposure... oy.
Re:X10 equipment (Score:2)
I'm setting up a B&W cam (from Marlin P Jones & Associates [mpja.com]) for the same purpose (baby cam). The nice thing is that CCD cameras are very infra-red sensitive unless they incorporate an IR filter. (You can test yours by observing how well it "sees" an IR remote's beam.) I've wired up two banks of IR LEDs as a light source (20 50-cent LED's in series/parallel). Baby can sleep in complete darkness while Big Brother (well, Big Mother and Big Father) watch.
Good cameras (from MPJA, SuperCircuits [supercircuits.com], and others) are cheap enough that there really is no reason to fool with toys like the camera mentioned in the base article. The X10 stuff is as cheap and is at least barely usable (with good lighting and short distances). But if you're half-way handy with electronics, you can do a lot better assembling a system yourself for just a bit more money.
I have one.. and it really isn't that good. (Score:2)
Me? I'd buy a better setup. Like I have in my remote controlled boat.. 3000feet on ham bands.
Re:Do some homework! (Score:2)
How much information do you expect them to be able to give you in the little blurbs that they use for news articles? Sure, it might've been nice to see an extended review, but that's not the main purpose of this place.
The beauty of
No offense to them, but the
Re:Possible application of this "toy" (Score:2)
The Trendmasters [trendmasters.com] unit is a simple battery-powered camera. It will find other low-resolution uses (I saw the TV ads, and the video looked like toy quality). I also notice that the link in the article has a picture with a flap open on the far side -- that is not an LCD monitor, as that is not mentioned in the Trendmasters description.
I agree... (Score:2)
My only consolation was to buy the cheapest camcorder I could find - it was GE 8mm camcorder, very, VERY basic (ie, manual zoom, seperate lensed viewfinder, no titling, no preview, no nothing). Price? $250.00 US - that was five years ago, and I haven't seen anything come close to it since (though there are some nice $300 rigs - I just don't use a video camera often enough to justify any of it).
Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
Yes and no... (Score:2)
Lego released their camera (as a Mindstorms add-on, and also as some kind of interactive movie making set) - unfortunately it is still tethered to the PC via a cable - it isn't wireless, thus limiting its true potential for experimentation.
This kid's camera isn't much cheaper than the X-10 thing. Plus, I wish that instead of using a 9-volt, they would use 6 AA batteries (for longer "on" time).
Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
The "flap"... (Score:2)
My first thought was that this camera was nothing more than a repackaged x-10 system (that, or the makers of the x-10 camera also sold the system to the makers of the toy cam)...
Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
Re:Advertising 101 (Score:2)
The guy in charge of X-10 had nothing to hide in an interview. He said it was effective, and it worked.
Tiny Camera (Score:2)
Re:Vide Capture Card + Lego Robot = Security Syste (Score:2)
I was sitting there watching them iterate through the images, and i had to yell "Is that my medula?"
The coolest thing I learned from EEGs is that you could attach all of the electrodes to your head and use them to power a calculator. Very cool stuff.
Possible application of this "toy" (Score:2)
Re:Tiny Camera (Score:2)
With an ATV transmitter, you can transmit video over a couple of miles, instead of the paltry 200' these consumer-market cameras allow.
-Vercingetorix
Re:Vide Capture Card + Lego Robot = Security Syste (Score:2)
One word: sigmoidscopy
Man I wish I could have seen the inside of my son when they did this to him. The camera they used to do this was ULTRA cool. The only neater thing was an EEG he had done. That was actually using a PC for recording the brain waves. And, it ran DOS! (I about fell over when I saw that).
Aiptek (Score:2)
Re:X10 equipment (Score:2)
Re:$75 isn't that good a deal... (Score:2)
If you're really on a tight budget and want such a gadget, get a real webcam from Logitech or Intel or Creative or such, and if you want to be able to use it away from the PC get something like the Creative webcam which can be untethered and used as a low-res digital camera, for about $129. Heck, HP offers a 1.3 megapixel digital camera for just $199. The only good use I can see for devices like this are for a low-res home surveillance security system, where higher priced components wouldn't be worth the extra cost.
Oddly enough, I have one... (Score:2)
the X10 one sucks (Score:2)
Re:Yes and no... (Score:2)
Plus, I wish that instead of using a 9-volt, they would use 6 AA batteries...
A few years ago I worked on a cheap robot made from a $5-$15 RC truck, an early greyscale CCD "pinhole" camera, and a Gemini Rabbit video transmitter (plus a SparcStation with a framegrabber to drive it).
The video transmitter expected 18 volts, so we tried pairs of 9 volt batteries (single-use and nicad). We could get about 5 minutes of transmission time with them. AA nicads gave us maybe half an hour of run-time (but weighed a ton).
9-volt batteries shouldn't be used for anything as power hungry as a transmitter.
Missing the Point (Score:2)
I think almost everyone is missing the point of this product. It's not targeted at the Lego-bot, home security, or bathroom-cam crowds. It's targeted at all those households with VCRs that don't want to pay $300+ for a video camera. Now for just $80 they can tape their kid's first steps or a Christmas message for Grandma.
I've wondered why nobody built something like this. It sure doesn't have to be wireless. Stick a cheap CCD camera and mono microphone on the end of a 50' cable and sell it for $50.
Power, Interference, Modifications (Score:2)
However, I bet there's an easy way to boost the transmitter output and probably violate several FCC rules in the process.
Cryptnotic
Word of warning (SPAM!!) about X10 (Score:2)
Sean
Re:Possible application of this "toy" (Score:2)
Although I note the the xcam2 costs about the same, and has twice the range. It would be interesting to actually compare the performance. I noticed that one of the other comments says that the reception is garbage with the kiddie video toy. While this is partly due to the receiver(?), this is not promising.
It has got me thinking though.
Time to revive the BassetCam. (Score:2)
One of the things I was trying to accomplish with this get-up was to take two cameras and mount them in doggie-eye-configuration, and them transmit two signals back to the computer, so the images could be massaged into one picture that would more correctly represent what the dog viewed. Has anyone tried two of these camera/transmitters near each other or otherwise tested for interference?
Looks neat (Score:2)
I'd mount it to a radio-controlled car... (Score:2)
"Titanic was 3hr and 17min long. They could have lost 3hr and 17min from that."
for that kind of money........... (Score:2)
The possibilities are endless.
People that park in front of your house for 3 mo. (Score:2)
Sometime last year there was this neighbor who insisted on leaving his junked cars parked in front of my house. Not just for a week but for allmost a full year!!! So naturally I got sick of it. I'd call the cops to come out and take care of it, they'd put a sticker on the car to move within 72 hours. They'd move the car for like a week, then park it right back in front of my house. Unfortunately there was a loophole here and unless I could prove that these jerks were being malicious about their parking habits I'd never be able to park in front of my house again.
The cops at this point were getting pretty sick of coming out to my house too.
So I went out and got a little X-10 cam, vid capture card and set it up on my windowsil. I set it to capture 1200 frames every 24 hours and let it sit there for about a month before I called the cops out again.
This time I had the cops bring the neighbor over to the house. He was one of those greasy inbred white trash types. He started yellin at me saying I was a lier blah blah blah right in front of the cops saying he moves those cars everyday. I opened up the AVI file of the time lapse, man I wish I could have gotten the look on his face when I started to play it. Sun goes up, car still there, sun goes down, car still there, moon comes up, car still there, moon goes down, car still there. The cops started muscling the guy saying they could charge him with falsifying information on a police report and they'd let him go if he promised to never park in front of my house again. Never had a problem since.
--toq
Shop S-Mart, not Wal-Mart (Score:2)
Basically, WalMart has huge market share, especially in music sales. They have so much, in fact, that they routinely force recording artists to alter lyrics or cover art in order to get the CD sold in Wal-Mart stores. While it is their right to choose what is sold and what is not, it runs counter to the entire notion of free speech when a CD is buried because its lyrics offend some Christian Wrong preachers with market power. So if you can, try to get your cool new cam somewhere else. And check around for better Wal-Mart stories; the link I included is probably far from the best, and their list of transgressions goes on and on.
And remember, shop smart... shop S-Mart!
$75 isn't that good a deal... (Score:2)
If you don't want to shell out money for a nice digital camera (My sony cybershot cost $999), there are better alternatives than buying a toy.
If I were Tyco... (Score:2)
I'm DYING to put this in a plane or heli, but the range is garbage. It was nice to discover that even though the antenna is a dish-looking thing, it doesn't act very directional. Works great at nearly all orientations. I'm a software guy; wish I knew how to amplify the signal. If anyone can boost the range on this puppy, let's hear how!!!!
Anyways, a big stinky poo on you to all readers who think this is a non
Re:Do some homework! (Score:3)
Slashdot has taken a dramatic downturn since it was "purchased". Having seen how this works from the inside I understand how it can happen. When a website is acquired there is a certain amount of traffic it is expected to drive to meet AD revenues (if thats the only source it has). This in itself is fair... the site was purchased to at the very least pay for itself and increase the mindshare of whoever owns it.
The problem is... the purchaser usually throws in weird conditions. Some slashdot conditions may have been, "a certain number of front page stories a day", "this many comments a week", or "this many less technical stories". I'm not saying this is the case here, but given some of the things we've seen over the past year its certainly plausible.
Then again its prolly just popularity, Slashdot is for all intents and purposes a BBS and just like any of the old dialup BBS's once they get to popular they lose their spark.
Samples... (Score:3)
So, anyone got some?
Interference (Score:3)
-- ShadyG
this camera... (Score:3)
I've got one of these (Score:3)
Picture quality blows....but what do you expect, it's $75.
There is a fixed lens which they say you can focus by taking off the front casing, though i haven't had any luck with their method.
The transmission is ok. I live in a house with a basement, the camera would work fine on the same floor as the receiver, though transmitting between floors is no good. It will go thorough walls with some interference. It will not transmit when put in the freezer with the door closed.
I do all kinds of video stuff, one of which is live mixing/projections at raves. I was really hoping the camera would work there as a wireless livecam, but the damned thing wouldn't transmit at all. I guess with all the interference of electronics the signal just couldn't be processed well. All I got was an indistinguishable b&w image.
As far as the neato factor goes, the cam is pretty good. If you are using it at home and don't mind the occasional hiccups in transmission and poor picture quality, then it's not a bad buy.
It is only $75, and it is a camera, though I was hoping for something like the old Fisher Price Pixelvision PXL2000 [jm3.net], it is no where near as cool.
--negspace
"can't depend on honest answers from dependent hands. won't accept an honest answer from an open hand." --jimmy eat world
Advertising 101 (Score:4)
I guess that's why simple, subtle ads have more or less been replaced by in-your-face ones.
On that note, check out the link in my sig.
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Vide Capture Card + Lego Robot = Security System (Score:4)
You want cameras? (Score:4)
http://www.quasarelectronics.com/cmos_cameras.htm [quasarelectronics.com]
http://www.mars-cam.com/frame/optical.html [mars-cam.com]
http://www.supercircuits.com/ [supercircuits.com]
cheers
mike
Any bet that... (Score:5)
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