When the Department of Homeland Security shows up with a "Patriot Act" unsigned warrant, and says "you cannot report this", do you think that Amazon will keep the data easily displayed? Or will even inform other personnel of where the records are kept? They are large enough to have a bureaucracy that is aware that they don't wish to be subpoenaed, or make the records easily found precisely to avoid having to share a record of cooperation. This is what AT&T did, for years, with Room 641A tapping their fi
When the Department of Homeland Security shows up with a "Patriot Act" unsigned warrant
In what context is DHS getting involved here? The thread is about state and local law enforcement. Who have a completely different set of powers from the Feds.
If DHS says "Gimme the videos" in a National Security Letter [wikipedia.org], you (Amazon) pretty much have to comply. Or you (Amazon executives) end up in a room with a light shining in your eyes, answering a lot of questions. The AT&T Room 641A incident is an example of this. A Federal agency steps up and says "Plug this thing in for me." You (AT&T) plug i
> But Amazon, or the local police departments aren't going to 'deep six' any records of their transactions.
I'm sad to say I've seen companies hide records of law enforcement or government requests for information. The Patriot Act requests are an example of transactions that are concealed. If the other departments aren't informed, and the records are not carefully handled, the person handling a subpoena later dos know where or how to _find_ the records of the transaction, if any were kept. And requests fr
Amazon is in the business of selling goods that are (generally) delivered to your door, usually the front door. In some neighborhoods, this is not a problem. 99% of the packages are actually collected by the intended recipient. In other neighborhoods, a lot of packages go missing. While folks that install Ring may still lose their packages, they may be able to discover who took them and maybe, just maybe, the cops will do something about it. Now, if you have the skills (and the money) you can DYI a security
When the Department of Homeland Security shows up with a "Patriot Act" unsigned warrant, and says "you cannot report this", do you think that Amazon will keep the data easily displayed? Or will even inform other personnel of where the records are kept? They are large enough to have a bureaucracy that is aware that they don't wish to be subpoenaed, or make the records easily found precisely to avoid having to share a record of cooperation. This is what AT&T did, for years, with Room 641A tapping their fi
When the Department of Homeland Security shows up with a "Patriot Act" unsigned warrant
In what context is DHS getting involved here? The thread is about state and local law enforcement. Who have a completely different set of powers from the Feds.
If DHS says "Gimme the videos" in a National Security Letter [wikipedia.org], you (Amazon) pretty much have to comply. Or you (Amazon executives) end up in a room with a light shining in your eyes, answering a lot of questions. The AT&T Room 641A incident is an example of this. A Federal agency steps up and says "Plug this thing in for me." You (AT&T) plug i
> But Amazon, or the local police departments aren't going to 'deep six' any records of their transactions.
I'm sad to say I've seen companies hide records of law enforcement or government requests for information. The Patriot Act requests are an example of transactions that are concealed. If the other departments aren't informed, and the records are not carefully handled, the person handling a subpoena later dos know where or how to _find_ the records of the transaction, if any were kept. And requests fr
Amazon is in the business of selling goods that are (generally) delivered to your door, usually the front door. In some neighborhoods, this is not a problem. 99% of the packages are actually collected by the intended recipient. In other neighborhoods, a lot of packages go missing. While folks that install Ring may still lose their packages, they may be able to discover who took them and maybe, just maybe, the cops will do something about it. Now, if you have the skills (and the money) you can DYI a security
$31 off is a good deal.
Only an idiot would think having to pay less for a corporation to spy on them is a good deal.