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Journal DarkKnightRadick's Journal: What Tards 17

So I've metamoderated a few comments about how "I don't need religion to tell me that taking an innocent life is wrong". Well I'm very happy for you. Now go and don't get an abortion. As for you having a moral right to force that view on everyone else, I say fuck you and the rest of your Republican bullshit.

I don't like the idea of abortion either but I'm not going to make it illegal for two reason.

1) I don't want backdoor butchers to return that killed half as many women as it helped.
2) It's not my body and I do not have to live with that decision for the rest of my life.

So how can I live with myself? I try to make sure my friends are fully informed on the alternatives before they make a choice. I make it a point to make sure that the alternatives are really viable. That is all I can do. I refuse to put my personal beleifs into law and everyone else should be refuse to do that as well. Morality does not make for good law. You want a country run by morals move to Vatican City (yes, it is a recognized country with it's own standing army) which is run by the Pope who is supposed to be the most moral man in the world. Otherwise live your own life as you will and let others do the same. Stupid fuckers.

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  • So I've metamoderated a few comments about how "I don't need religion to tell me that taking an innocent life is wrong". Well I'm very happy for you. Now go and don't get an abortion. As for you having a moral right to force that view on everyone else, I say fuck you and the rest of your Republican bullshit.

    It is equally moral to say "you can't kill an infant after it is been born" as to say "you can't kill an infant before it has been born". On what moral basis do we disallow murder at all? There are

    • Except, of course, that my "moral" view is to mind your own fucking business if the decision doesn't involve you.

      Personally I'm against abortions after the middle of the second trimester but that doesn't mean I'm going to go out and bomb abortion clinics, protest or otherwise impede a families right to choose the right thing for themselves. They are the ones who have to live with the decision.

      Besides, there are 6 billion plus people on the planet already, do you really want to continue adding to that when
      • Except, of course, that my "moral" view is to mind your own fucking business if the decision doesn't involve you.

        So I should not want to make wife-beating illegal, even though it is "none of my business"? That is a pretty poor test to determine if society should intervene with laws to protect people.

        Personally I'm against abortions after the middle of the second trimester but that doesn't mean I'm going to go out and bomb abortion clinics, protest or otherwise impede a families right to choose the rig

        • Wife beating infringes on the right of those women to participate in "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". It's already against the law in my eyes.

          I haven't forgotten about the fetus, I just don't think it's actually capable of "being" until after the mid-point of the second-trimester, and even then, it's nothing more then a parasite.

          To an extent, yes. It is a good thing.
          • I haven't forgotten about the fetus, I just don't think it's actually capable of "being" until after the mid-point of the second-trimester, and even then, it's nothing more then a parasite.

            This claim has no basis science or anywhere else. A 14 week fetus has eyes, ears, functional organs, fingernails, and spontaneously moves around. It's pretty much the same as newborn baby, but a lot smaller. You are telling me that this fetus is not a person? Sorry, but both science and the millions of women whose

            • A dead bug also sponteanously moves around, is it alive?

              It's not alive until it can survive on it's own, that's why I say the mid-point of the second trimester.
              • A dead bug also sponteanously moves around, is it alive?

                A dead bug is not alive, nor is it a person. But if it had human DNA, a beating heart, and a working brain, I might think it were a human being.

                It's not alive until it can survive on it's own, that's why I say the mid-point of the second trimester.

                A newborn infant can't "survive on it's own", it would starve to death without a caregiver. The only different between a fetus and a newborn is that only the mother can directly care for a fetus, and

                • It seems odd to me you consider it homicide.

                  Again, I take the stance that it is none of our business. The only ones concerned in the matter are the doctor and the mother and the fetus.
                  • It seems odd to me you consider it homicide.

                    Yet you have given my no reason to distinguish first trimester abortions from late second trimester abortions (what I assume you would consider a homicide), other than some nebulous criteria that says the fetus, perhaps, has a chance to pull through with heroic effors of doctors and our best technology. Most illogical.

                    Again, I take the stance that it is none of our business. The only ones concerned in the matter are the doctor and the mother and the fetus.

                    • Yes, I would. The person who represents that fetus is the mother, the father and the doctor. If you cannot accept that, too freaking bad.
                    • Yes, I would. The person who represents that fetus is the mother, the father and the doctor. If you cannot accept that, too freaking bad.

                      It is interesting to see how your views have already changed. First, you say that a fetus is not a person or in any sense "alive". Now you say it deserves representation so that it's rights are protected. You further add the father to the decision making process. So can a father demand that the mother not get an abortion? This is what you seem to be implying. You

                    • Whatever. It's none of your fucking business nor mine. The whole damn point is moot.

                      Oh, and about criminals not having their rights violated? Did you know tht ex-cons are denied their second amendment rights and certain ex-cons are even forbidden from voting even after they are out of prison?

                      Sorry, I cannot find one damn good reason to continue bringing lives into this world when this world cannot support them all.

                      You call it subjugation and genocide, I call it necessary population control.

                      Yes the fathe
                    • Whatever. It's none of your fucking business nor mine. The whole damn point is moot.

                      Yet you cannot justify your opinion in any meaningful way, or tell me why it is "my business" if violence against children occurs in the home, but not in the womb.

                      Oh, and about criminals not having their rights violated? Did you know tht ex-cons are denied their second amendment rights and certain ex-cons are even forbidden from voting even after they are out of prison?

                      What is your point? That those who commit crime

                    • I did answer your question now fuck off.

                      You have not presented to me any meaningful reason why I should be compeletely against abortion and making it illegal. Do you want women to go to illegal abortion clinics where bicycle spokes are shoved up in them? Fuck you.

                      This whole species is built upon selfishness.

                      As for your India example, I find it funny they are exporting food despite their poor, homeless and hungry masses.
                    • I did answer your question now fuck off.

                      Actually, you didn't - if you were to accept that a fetus is a person and deserves 14th amendment protection, should unlimited, abortion-on-demand be legal?

                      You have not presented to me any meaningful reason why I should be compeletely against abortion and making it illegal. Do you want women to go to illegal abortion clinics where bicycle spokes are shoved up in them? Fuck you.

                      Two points, I never said the medical prodeduce called an abortion should be illegal

                    • A fetus is not a person.
                    • A fetus is not a person.
                      A human life, mere minutes before it is about to be born, is not a person?

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