imroy's Journal: Ah fudge it

Damn it. John Howard has been re-elected as Australian Prime Minister. FUCK FUCK FUCK!

I watched the smug bastards' acceptance speach on TV with two of my younger brothers. We were hurling abuse at almost everything he said.

"I'm not your fellow Australian..."
"This nation stands on the threshold of great mediocrity..."
"The rest of the world sees us as a deputy to the US in the pacific..."
"United Nation? Is that like the UN?"
"We didn't vote for you, ya bastard!"
"You don't represent us!"
Lots of middle fingers and obscenities aimed at the screen.

An interesting part of his speach was when he brought up Afghanistan and their looming elections. This got a lot of abuse from us but I said to my brothers "no no no, the war in Afghanistan was at least justified. Now watch as he tries to link it to the war in Iraq, which was TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED...". But he didn't. He only mentioned activities "in other countries around thw world", almost as if he knew we were getting tired of the mess in Iraq.

New Zealand is looking better and better all the time!

Democrazy

[RAMMS+EIN]

I guess this is one of those times you wished everybody would just listen to you... How were the votes distributed?

Re:Democrazy

[imroy]

The coalition won with a larger majority, if that's what you mean. They even won a few more seats from Labor. There's more information at the ABC website [abc.net.au].

And it's not so much that I wished everybody would just listen to me. I just can't understand how people have voted the way they have. I feel so out of touch with the rest of the country. I know I'm Australian and always will be, but I just feel so out of place. In the country I was born and raised. It's sad.

Re:Democrazy

[Mike Hawk]

Have you at least considered the possibility that its you that might be wrong? I'm not saying you are the one that is wrong, but if you can't even understand how someone could possibly disagree with you, it might be time for some introspection.

Re:Democrazy

[imroy]

Wrong? Who said anything about being wrong?

Re:Democrazy

[Mike Hawk]

I did. Have you considered the possibility that you might just be wrong?

Maybe the word means something different there?
Wrong
Not in conformity with fact or truth; incorrect or erroneous. Or
Contrary to conscience, morality, or law; immoral or wicked. Also
Unacceptable or undesirable according to social convention.

Since you cannot understand the other side, have you considered the possibility its only you and/or your beliefs that exhibit one or more of those qualities, and the side you do not underst

Re:Democrazy

[imroy]

Ok. But wrong about what? Just what fact or truth did I bring up, about which I may be wrong? I find this whole right/wrong thing puzzling. I was talking about differing opinions and you bring this up.

Re:Democrazy

[Mike Hawk]

Its not about a specific fact or truth, but any fact or truth that you belief, or your belief system as a whole. Someone shouting at their TV, then complaining that they dont understand the other side even fundamentally, does not really strike me as an open-minded person. So I ask a third time, have you considered, by any definition or scope of the word wrong, that you are the one that is wrong?

I think the fact that you can't even fathom the question is enough of an answer for me.