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Journal Cryofan's Journal: My posts being modded UP AND DOWN in same post (More detail)

Look at these posts that some moderators find interesting, insightful, etc, yet other moderators find to be a troll, a flamebait, etc.

Why the polarization?

Here are the posts (my wife is calling me to go!):

  Yippee! Another billionaire for us to adore! (Score:-1, Troll)
by Cryofan (194126) on Thursday September 02, @07:44PM (#10144671)
(http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 02, @08:16PM)
Fuck Mark Cuban and the dotcom crap he rode in on. Wasn't there a slashdot topic on how he claimed that larger file sizes were the cure for video "piracy"?

Fight for your Welfare State! [geocities.com])
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  Yes, USA is DEFINITELY 2nd rate in healthcare (Score:4, Insightful)
by Cryofan (194126) on Thursday September 02, @01:39PM (#10141013)
(http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 02, @08:16PM)
And you are right--we have a hard time admitting we are 2nd rate in anything. And there is a reason for that: we Americans have been subjected to decades of well-funded media propaganda, which has caused the vast majority of AMericans to suffer from this peculiar disease, which I cannot put a name to, but one symptom of it is the eternal calls to patriotism, and endless rhetoric about "the United States of America." We have manipulated for decades to think that America is so great, and thus we have given our consent to all sorts of foreign wars and foreign policy skullduggery.

This kind of manipulation still goes on here: most Americans are convinced America has the world's greatest medical case. Umm...no, it does not. Not for the average person.

And we do not have the world's greatest broadband. Here in Houston, the country's 5th largest city, you can get 1M down, 250K up for the grand sum of $32/month.

The reason why we have substandard broadband and substandard medical care is that our governmental structure was set up 200 years ago to reflect and maintain a SLAVE SOCIETY. They ran on slaves and indentured servants, and they built a Constitution to exploit the underclass. And they are still exploiting us.

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  decades of anti-govt, pro-corporate propaganda (Score:0, Flamebait)
by Cryofan (194126) on Wednesday September 01, @10:54AM (#10128364)
(http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 02, @08:16PM)
Yes, I agree; the public financed projects are what made America great. THat and the high, progressive tax rates we had up until about 25 years ago. Lately we have just been coasting.

THe reason why we are headed downhill is because of the propaganda bought by the rich and the corporations for the last 30 years, propaganda which denigrated public service, government projects, and which glamourized corporations and the corporate sector.

Fight for your Welfare State! [geocities.com])
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decades of anti-govt, pro-corporate propaganda by Cryofan
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  free broadband access will make USA more liberal (Score:4, Interesting)
by Cryofan (194126) on Wednesday September 01, @10:48AM (#10128287)
(http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 02, @08:16PM)
Free broadband access means 70% of AMericans could watch video from any source at all. People could download video off of p2p networks, meaning that the high barrier to entry for getting a TV show or movie out to an audience would be changed to a lower barrier to entry. You would still have to have cameras (but they are getting reall cheap now) and actors and production sets. But the distribution system (tv stations, cable tv systems, movie theaters etc) has always been the obstacle to be overcome.

But when anyone with a camera, free editing software, and some time and actors can make a movie, then upload it onto p2p, where it could be watched on free or very cheap p2p, that is going to mean that more leftist, liberal, progressive ideas are going to be propagated into American minds.

Right now, the mainstream media/Hollywood is liberal in the social sense (i.e., gay and minority rights, abortion, etc), but they are quite conservative in the economics /i? sense: meaning that leftist ideas about raising the tax rates on the rich to former levels (e.g., 60% or more), and ideas about welfare for any poor person, and universal health care, these ideas are shunted aside.

But free broadband would disrupt the media/entertainment distribution machine, thus allowing penetration for more liberal, leftist ideas.

I am all for it!

Fight for your Welfare State! [geocities.com])
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  "Economic" == science of screwing the serfs (Score:1, Flamebait)
by Cryofan (194126) on Friday August 27, @07:49PM (#10093048)
(http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 02, @08:16PM)
you wrote:
" No, her basic premise is sound economics.

Economics is nothing more than a science of how to fuck over the working citizen and benefit the investor. Anytime I hear someone talk about "economics", I know they are either callow and ignorant or an evil greedhead. Guess which one I think you are....

you also wrote:

What outsourcing really does is grow the economies of those other countries.

WHo cares? America is my business. I own it jointly with all my fellow citizens. They are my partners. I aint looking to fuck them over so I can unduly benefit myself and some foreigners. I call that treason....

The money going into those economies results in higher economic spending power among the outsourcees. They in turn buy more goods, which employs more people in their local economy. This causes economic growth... at the same time it provides the ability for people in these countries to start their own business, utilizing cheaper local professionals, to produce products and outcompete the American companies. That sounds scary... but the net gain is cheaper goods and services for US as well.

OK...that scenario MIGHT come true, at some point in the future, maybe 50 years or 100 years. But I and my fellow citizen-partners are gonna get mighty skinny waiting for your free-trade, lasseiz faire, cornucopia-religion, rapture-prophesy crap to come to fruition. I say fuck that, and put up steep trade barriers. You know, things CHANGE from time to time in this ol' world. What works OK at some time N, does necessarily work well at some time N+K. Reality is like that.

You wrote:
It's the concept of competitive advantage. The workers in India have a competitive advantage as they can do the IT jobs cheaper, and ostensibly at or near the same quality level. By allowing them to take that advantage they win (their economy grows), but they also begin producing products that out-compete the more expensive American products. This is the exact same cycle we saw with Japanese cars (which has come full circle with those companies opening up manufacturing plants in the United States).

Here is an analogy for you: I and a bunch of people own an office building together. Each of us owners uses one of the offices to ply our trade. I am a lawyer; Joe down the hall is a dentist, Mike is an accountant, etc.

Then we hire an office manager. This office manager finds out that the office building on the down the street is not doing so well. The lawyers, accountants, dentists working there do not have much business. They charge much less than we owners in our office building do, but the problem is that their location is not as "prime"as ours. So that office manager conspires with the owners of the other building: whenever someone comes in looking to hire a lawyer, get dental or accounting work, etc., he just sends them down the street. He gets a kickback.

When we catch onto what he is doing he just says basically what you have just said: "it will grow their economy, it will keep prices down, yadda yadda yadda...."

Now, what do you think of that office manager?

With regard to manufacturing and japan and the USA, you might wanna read this.... [pushhamburger.com]

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