Journal Surak's Journal: EXPERIMENT: Incidence of indigos in hackerdom? 88
I was reading this little bit on Indigo Children and the hairs stood up on the back of my neck. I was like, dude, this is my story. As was the case when I read bio after bio of adult indigos. Many of their stories sounded way similar to mine.
So I noticed that they had a section on indigo adults. After reading this profile on an adult indigo, I was completely stunned. I fit this profile basically to a "T". But I was still (and am still) somewhat skeptical of this whole indigo thing. Although, OTOH, somehow I feel that I definitely am an indigo.
So I took the auracolors test at auracolors.com and was, I guess, not completely surprised that the my primary life color was indigo. In fact, I am, according to the test, a full 12-point indigo.
Now I noticed in the descriptions that many indigos are misdiagnosed as ADD or ADHD or Asperger's Syndrome (AS). This is also common in hackerdom. To quote esr from the Jargon File:
...hackers tend to believe they have good reason for skepticism about clinical explanations of the hacker personality. That being said, most would also concede that some hacker traits coincide with indicators for non-hyperactive ADD and AS
... It is probably true that boosters of both would find a rather higher rate of clinical ADD among hackers than the supposedly mainstream-normal 3-5% (AS is rarer at 0.4-0.5%).
Some of the indigo traits also seem to correspond to common hacker traits, IMHO, such as a strong dislike of broken systems (i.e., political, legal, health, etc.), a strong resistance to authority, fear of Big Brother, frustration with political systems such as voting, anger at rights being taken away, etc.
So a little experiment in the name of metaphysical science here: I'd like to see how many of you geeks (and even non-geeks
So here's what I'm looking for: what you are the results of your auracolors test, and do you feel from reading the descriptions that you might be (or your child might be) an indigo?
Well, (Score:2)
But I emphathise with the Indigo experience completely. Even the part where Angels talk. Doesn't make me feel special or anything though; long figured there
Re:Well, (Score:2)
Admittedly, this one's a bit of stretch for me. If I shave, and wear certain clothes, than I take on more of an androgynous appearance.
I do have a lot of female friends and homosexual guys often think I might be homosexual or bisexual. Female friends also often think I'm bisexual. I don't have a problem w
I'm a Yellow (Score:2)
Sorry, but I don't identify with indigo at all.
Just call me mellow yellow!
Red Warrior is ... Green [!content] (Score:1)
Re:Red Warrior is ... Green [!content] (Score:2)
Re:Red Warrior is ... Green [!content] (Score:1)
Oh, and Em needs food badly too.
yellow (Score:1)
but then My first thought when I read the title was the SGI Indigo2
Is that Tan or Beige? (Score:1)
I didn't score remarkably high in any one color. My highest score was for Environmental Tan, followed by Logical Tan. Quite low Indigo score, although a buddy of mine insists I have ADHD, if only because I am completely incapable of doing nothing as long as I'm awake.
Beige... I think I'll paint the ceiling Beige.... (Score:2)
Re:Beige... I think I'll paint the ceiling Beige.. (Score:1)
She's a Sagittarius, FWIW.
Aw.. that means trouble
kinda tan (Score:2, Informative)
Red 3
Orange 0
Magenta 1
Yellow 5
Logical Tan 7
Environmental Tan 4
Sensitive Tan 7
Abstract Tan 4
Green 3
Blue 5
Violet 5
Lavendar 2
Crystal 5
Indigo 4
Red Overlay 0
Maybe I'm just non-committal. I do tend to make a lot of savegames, just in case. Nah. Well...
Re:kinda tan (Score:2, Informative)
Re:kinda tan (Score:1)
Colour test thingy... (Score:2)
Re:Colour test thingy... (Score:2)
Re:Colour test thingy... (Score:2)
Prefer cooperative efforts, leadership positions, or working alone
ie, Prefer working with others (cooperative efforts) or working alone?
I don't think I'll be rushing out to throw my money at these guys. 8-/
How? (Score:2)
But then, all this aura colour nonsense is bollocks anyway, so it's not really relevant. I'm an INTJ, if you're
red-ish/tan-ish (Score:2)
#1 - RED: 7
#2 - ORANGE: 4
#3 - MAGENTA: 6
#4 - YELLOW: 7
#5 - Logical Tan: 8
#6 - Environmental Tan: 7
#7 - Sensitive Tan: 3
#8 - Abstract Tan: 9
#9 - GREEN: 3
#10 - BLUE: 3
#11 - VIOLET: 3
#12 - LAVENDER: 2
#13 - CRYSTAL: 0
#14 - INDIGO: 2
#15 - RED OVERLAY: 3
As you can see, I'm either something or I'm not
-Ab
X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
This indigo thing has nothing to do with a superiority/inferiority/X-Men complex thingie at all, really. This is all for legitimate research I'm doing in metaphysical studies.
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Err, aren't "legitimate research" and "metaphysics" diametrically opposed? I'd class metaphysics in the same moldy bin as parapsychology, ESP, UFOs, crop circles, cold fusion, and any soul in the Republican Party -- they're all hoaxes passed off on an uncritical public :)
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Socrates didn't think so. Neither did many of the other great thinkers and writers throughout time.
Besides, for you to say that implies that you don't know what metaphysics is.
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Many of the ancient Greeks said things that took a long time to discredit (heavy things fall more quickly than light things, the world is flat, etc.). That didn't make those assertions right though. The only verification that these assertions were or were not true came via rigorous testing -- an idea that most of the ancient Greeks seemed never to consider. Their loss.
Calling on ancient authority as "irrefutable" proof of a position is a classic logical fallacy, and in fact is a big part of why it took 200
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:1)
Not everything that isn't scientific is nonsense.
The easiest example of this is the ability of intelligent people to defy statistics.
Science is a body of knowledge that had been rigoursly tested and found to be very very close to reality. But that's all it is--there are things that science can't, and often shouldn't, touch.
'course, I also believe that the principle
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Then you misunderstand statistics. Statistics are a technique for summarizing, to a certain known degree of confidence, what is observed in a population. That confidence aspect is critical: statistics absolutely tolerates anomalies, always.
That's why statistics has confidence intervals and other fudge factors -- the most that can ever be said of any statistics based assertion is that we are "N percent confident that X pe
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:1)
Well, a significant portion of such matters is central to human thought. "Why does my life love me?" "Am I more than my genetics?" "Is there a God?" All questions that science isn't setup to answer, and shouldn't be looked to for anything more than a cynical, ag
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
To be fair, that *is* mainstream science's answer. That which is not proven and which is not disproven is unknown. The problem with science is that since it can't easily answer questions about that which is unknown, it chooses not to even try.
I didn't understand programming languages when I first starting learning to program. It took me
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Get one and a flashlight. Setup the radiometer and the flashlight so the vanes on the the radiometer turn very slowly. Point at the radiometer with your fingers, and you can *will* the radiometer to speed up or slow down. Try it. It works.
This is actual, measurable evidence of psychic ability. You can SEE this happen
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
I don't think that experiment proves you have psychic ability. The radiometer measures electromagnetic radiation (light waves, radio waves, etc), correct?
Well, your brain and nervous system transmit electrical (or at least charged particle) signals to each other, and modulation of electrical current will create electromagnetic waves. This is how a radio works, it modulates an electrical current on a wire (the antenna). Your will changing the speed of the thing is probably just you creating more powerful s
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
The problem with metaphysics is that it doesn't lend itself to such testing -- it's all subjective, unmeasurable, open to interpreation, and rarely if ever makes testable assertions.
The problem with people today is that they have too much faith in science. It's called the naive-realist
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Immanuel Kant's Prolegomena: to any future metaphysics provides a foundation for metaphysics which isn't in "violent opposition" to the scientific method. Read it through, you'll not find any "mystical shit". It's diametrically opposed to "mystical shit".
That said,
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
That said, I'm not-strongly any of the colours, I was mostly 1's and 5/6's with a couple 7's.
Which colors were 5/6/7s?
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:1)
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Doing a class on cybercrime this sem (taught by some lecturer from the #@$!$ ARTS fac... was hoping for some legal, and policy perspective, and I get this), and I keep hearing folks like Kevin Mitnick, and that school-kid who "improved" on the Blaster worm, being called as "computer geniuses". Pisses me off no end; I suppose it is a variant of that old "Be scared of those that are different" phenomenon.
I suppose this will reduce in the coming months, now the boom is out of the in
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:1)
Plus a lot of geeks do things like man a help-desk (or field calls in a similar manner), and being on that side of the service industry will turn you into an elitist pretty quick.
I mean, it's not like computers aren't something workers deal with every day, they should learn at least a little about them. I know how to change the oil on my car and diagnose basic problems, but I still defer to a mechanic.
It's very much a human thing and not a geek thing.
Re:X-men syndrome (Score:2)
Don't you think you are generalizing a bit? 95% of the people I socialize with are non-geeks. Whenever one of my coworkers apologizes for doing something wrong on the PC, I always tell them it's ok, if they were as good on a computer as I was, I'd be out of a job. For the most part, I agree with you though. Many geeks do have delusions of grandeur.
In the name of hacker science (Score:1)
Anyhow, I'm an 11 point "Sensitive Tan", and high on the other tans, and low on pretty much everything else.
And I *will* break your neck if you say I have a red overlay (Oh, I don't, by the way).
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:2)
So far most it seems that most hackers are high on the tan categories. Still, I'd like to see more responses.
Three out of -- I think -- 15 responses so far have high indigo factors, about 20%. Although 15 can hardly be considered a representative sampling. I'd like a bit more. Is 100 responses asking too much?
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:1)
It's a lot of questions, so I don't know how many people are going to be willing to spend the time. You might have to settle for a "wildly innaccurate" sampling. Maybe none of the indigos are pre-disposded to taking the test, and the Tans are overly disposed to test taking, skewing your results...
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:2)
However, thus far, the numbers are consistent with what Wendy Chapman of metagifted fame claims [metagifted.org] are the statstical norm, and maybe on the high side depending on the age range of the respondants, which I did not ask for.
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:1)
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:2)
I think tans lend themselves well to being engineering types, because they have to be methodical and detail-oriented, and good systems thinkers.
As for being a Vulcan, Dave, if you're reading this far -- two words, baby: pon far.
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:2)
And you're not kidding. Fair dinkum, right?
Oh, FWIW: I *did* score somewhere in the 6-8 range in at least two of the of the tans. (Don't have my results handy, I'll check which ones when I get home). So in that respect, I'm a fairly typical hacker.
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:2)
I scored 4 on Logical Tan, 5 on Sensitive tan and 6 on Abstract Tan. I have 8s on Blue and Violet.
Re:In the name of hacker science (Score:1)
Oh, good grief. (Score:2)
My results (Score:2)
Violet and Blue: 12
Green: 11
Indigo: 10
Logical tan: 9
Environmental tan: 8
Abstract and Sensitive tan: 7
Crystal: 5
Yellow, (i hate yellow with fervent passion) and "Red Overlay": 4
Red: 2
Orange and Magenta:1
So what do we get out of that? *sigh* that a lot of the questions overlap, and that i like to be in charge but don't always know what to do at a party.
oke, i'm taking my sceptical, cantankerous self back to the benches. But at least i went through with it, and
Re:My results (Score:2)
So that makes
Re:My results (Score:2)
Green (Score:2)
9 - Blue
9 - Violet
7 - Logical Tan
7 - Yellow
6 - Sensitive Tan
5 - Indigo
5 - Enviromental Tan (Does this make me a hippy?)
4 - Abstract Tan
4 - Crystal
3 - Lavendar
2 - Red
1 - Red Overlay (Cause I almost died when young)
0 - Orange
0 - Magenta
As for the Indigo child page... (Score:2)
Re:As for the Indigo child page... (Score:1)
If this were tv, then I would just skip it. But since this is relatively close to real life [online as opposed to in person], I like to hear the the details.
Re:As for the Indigo child page... (Score:2)
My Aura Colors: (Score:1)
Orange: 4
Magenta: 7
Yellow: 7
Logical Tan: 5
Environmental Tan: 8
Sensitive Tan: 6
Abstract Tan: 7
Green: 4
Blue: 5
Violet: 9
Lavender: 3
Crystal: 6
Indigo: 10
Red Overlay: 1
Re:My Aura Colors: (Score:1)
Re:My Aura Colors: (Score:2)
I dunno. I'm just learning about this myself. This experiment is one thing I'm doing in the process of learning.
You are number 5, out of the
I'm still somewhat skeptical of the whole indigo thing. But we
Re:My Aura Colors: (Score:1)
Well, if you have a questionaire, my emails public. Feel free to send one off and I'll answer it.
Re:My Aura Colors: (Score:2)
Questions I'm seeking answers to. I'm interesting in finding out how real (or not real) this indigo stuff is.
Re:My Aura Colors: (Score:1)
Bleh. (Score:2)
Let me state up front that about a third of the way through this test, I personally decided that it was useless; mainly because a) the way the questions are phrased, and b) the fact that it separates everything into discrete variables.
That having been said:
Red: 2
Orange: 3
Magenta: 4
Yellow: 4
Logical Tan: 6
Environmental Tan: 6
Sensitive Tan: 0
Abstract Tan: 3
Green: 5
Blue: 3
Violet: 3
Lavender: 1
Crystal: 2
Indigo: 3
Red Overlay: 2
FYI, I'm a hardcore INTP (and I tend to prefer the MB type testing as
I was not tricked by the swimsuit edition... (Score:1)
I only scored a two on the indigo section; I had 10 on logical tan and 9 on environmental tan. It would have been fairly easy to game the whole thing, though, if one wanted to.
It's worth noting that tests like this measure what you think of yourself, not what you are. For some, this is pretty close. For others, very far off.
tried to avoid it (Score:1)
But in the interest of creating more data:
logical tan: 8
environmental and abstract tan: 6 (note, the abstract tan seems to describe me best)
orange: 5
yellow: 4
violet: 3
indigo and red: 2
all others: 1
With a big fat '4' on the red overlay. Perhaps if my parents had abused me, it would be a 6:)
I want my 15 minutes back! (Score:2)
Orange 2
Magenta 3
Yellow 8
Log Tan 9
Env Tan 9
Sen Tan 6
Abs Tan 1
Green 9
Blue 3
Violet 6
Lavendar 1
Crystal 1
Indigo 1
Red OL 2
So I'm what; Burnt Sienna?
I'm a tan (Score:2)
Moving on down the list:
5 pt. Red
4 pt. Sensitive Tan, Green, and Indigo
2 pt. Orange, Violet, Red Overlay
1 pt. Magenta and Crystal
Tan (Score:1)
Environmental Tan - 7
The rest were 3's or less...
I would say this is all BS (Score:1)
orange 8
magenta 4
yellow 11
tan 8
env tan 11
sense tan 4
abstract tan 5
green 12
blue 4
violet 9
lavender 3
crystal 4
indigo 4
red overlay 3
this aura and healing powers bullshit reminds me of my crazy ex stempmom. she thought she could teleport and read minds.
nope (Score:2)
Yellow-Green (Score:2)
I got 8 points in both Yellow and Green -- what does that make me, Kiwi?
It's a weird combination, but the description is pretty spot on for me.
my scores (Score:2)
Green -11
Violet - 11
Yellow - 9
Blue - 8
Environmental Tan- 8
Colors, O, Colors (Score:2)
Yellow: 8
Violet: 7
Blue: 7
Crustal 5
Abstract Tan: 5
Indigo: 4
Green: 2
Environmental Tan: 2
Logical Tan: 2
Oarnge: 2
Sensitive Tan: 1
Magenta: 1
Red: 1
Lavender: 0
Red Overlay: 1
(Now i hope someone with far too much free time is going to compile all of these into a pretty graph, etc?)
I'm a Yellow (Score:1)
Red = 0
Orange = 2
Magenta = 4
YELLOW = 10
Logical Tan = 6
Environmental Tan = 5
Sensitive Tan = 3
Abstract Tan = 2
Green = 5
Blue = 3
Violet = 6
Lavender = 3
Crystal = 3
Indigo = 6
Red Overlay = 3
The Red Overlay thing kinda bugs me...makes me want go out and beat somebody up ;)
Mine came back black - is that bad? (Score:2)
Orange: 4
Magenta: 4
Yellow: 5
Logical: 10
Environ: 11
Sensitive: 4
Abstract: 3
Green: 3
Blue: 2
Violet: 6
Lavender: 5
Crystal: 3
Indigo: 4
Red Over: 1
Here are the results of the andr0medanian jury.. (Score:1)
Apparently, and frankly not really surprisingly, I am a full fledged 12 points Lavender type with a serious red overlay. Closely followed with environmental tan (11), logical tan (10) and blue (9).. then a range of colors that score 8, abstract at 7, crystal at 6, and green and red close the hatch at 5.
I must say that som questions were not allways put in the same way, and thus not allways answered in the same way. Still, I consider myself quite skilled in coding/hacking, but no indigo here, mate..
Violet Indigo with a little Crystal (Score:2)
To punish the great and evil Surak for convincing others to beg people into taking this test, I will add to the noise. ;-)
Red: 2, Orange: 2
Magenta: 3, Yellow: 2
Logical tan: 4, Environmental tan: 2
Sensitive tan: 2, Abstract tan: 2
Green: 4, Blue: 2
Violet: 7, Lavender: 4
Crystal: 5, Indigo: 7
Red overlay: 3
my results sucked. (Score:1)
orange: 4
magenta: 2
yellow: 5
logical tan: 10
environmental tan: 11
sensitive tan: 7
abstract tan: 6
green: 8
blue: 6
violet: 6
lavender: 3
crystal: 10
indigo: 4
red overlay: 2
I'm obviously an environmental tan, a logical tan, and a crystal. I'd have preferred if they had mixed the questions up, and scored them afterwards, making it less clear which traits went with which 'aura'.
My aunt believes that I have an aura, because she saw it when I came to visit her after her hysterectomy.
I believe somewhat that we a
All over the bloody place... (Score:2)
#2 - ORANGE : 1
#3 - MAGENTA: 3
#4 - YELLOW : 7
#5 - Logical Tan
#6 - Environmental Tan : 6
#7 - Sensitive Tan
#8 - Abstract Tan
#9 - GREEN: 9
#10 - BLUE : 2
#11 - VIOLET : 9
#12 - LAVENDER:0
#13 - CRYSTAL: 1
#14 - INDIGO : 1
#15 - RED OVERLAY : 1
Bah... Loved the 'I tend to take a long time to make a decision. (Take as long as you want to answer this question.)' one.
robi2106's results (Score:2)
Orange: 5
Magenta: 2
Yellow: 6
Logical Tan: 11
Env. Tan: 9
Sensitive Tan: 6
Abstract Tan: 1
Green: 5
Blue: 5
Violet: 5
Lavender: 2
Crystal: 7
Indigo: 1
Red Overlay: 2
Lessons learned: <strong bad>Holy Crap!</strong bad> That was a lot of questions! Was it just me or did several different sections have the same question? I swear the one about what kind of work environment you want was on there at least twice....
So from these results we know that Jason has no chance of being famous due to his inate a
Everything there is to know about Sloppy (Score:1)
logical tan 9
green 6
sensitive tan 5
crystal 5
violet 5
lavender 4
yellow 4
orange 3
abstract tan 2
indigo 2
red 2
blue 1
magenta 1
red overlay 0
Psuedoscientific bullshit (Score:1)
That said;
Red: 4 Orange: 4 Magenta (heh, the goth/raver color. . .
So I am an EnviroSensiAbstract-Tan-Green-Blue-Violet-Lavende r person with a red hue? *rolls eyes*
AND NOW FOR THE RANT
Also, these types of quanitiz
Logical tan (Score:2)
And I prefer a divining rod made of birch. You?
lavender with a red overlay (Score:2)
turns out that i'm lavender. i bloody hate that color, so i think i'll call this category black instead (because it means having a very hard life in this world). indigo is somewhere in the middle of the list, but then again, i'm not a hacker either. not that i'd believe in this indigo-hacker connection -- i'd connect it more w
Re:lavender with a red overlay (Score:2)
<fake rasta>Yay, groovy, me be lavender with a red overlay, Mon! That be an ugly color, Mon, so methinks me shoulda call datta black instead, sound much more bettah, speak much more bouta greef'n'sorrow methinks me having coming. Black have the blues lavender donnave. Me
me (Score:1)
orange 4
magenta 3
yellow 7
logical tan 8
environmental tan 6
sensitive tan 6
abstract tan 4
green 6
blue 8
violet 9
lavender 4
crystal 5
indigo 7
red overlay 1
whatever that means. people often percieve themselves differently than they are.
Damn it Jim! (Score:1)
I'm also 7's on Logical Tan, Environmental Tan, & Green. Indigo was but a 5.
No particular color (Score:2)
Good times... (Score:2)
Violet 10, Indigo/Yellow 9, Enviro. Tan 8, Crystal/Magenta/Log. Tan 7, Abst. Tan 5, Red/Orange/Sen. Tan 4, Green 3, Lav/Blue 0, and an ever so exciting Red Overlay of 1.
Do I get a cookie?
I'm anti-indigo (Score:1)
Violet and enrivonmental tan are next at 6.
Indigo was my absolute lowest score of all the colors, being a 2
Well, Red Overlay was a 1, but that doesn't count...