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There was just a story on /. based on an article from Harvard Business Review by Umair Haque, titled "Was Marx Right?". This is a point by point review of that article.

Immiseration. Marx claimed that capitalism would immiserate workers..... (America's median wage has been stagnant for roughly 40 years.) In macro terms, labor's share of income has plummeted, while the lion's share of growth has accrued to those at the very top.

Obviously the author is not paying attention to what happened 40-45 years ago, namely defaulting on the promise to pay real money for federal reserve notes, destruction of currency, inflation, growth of government based on destruction of currency, capital flight and creation of more monopolies, due to increase of gov't size and thus regulations, which leads to creation of super-incomes for those on the very top of the ladder, but destroys competition and subsequently destroys the economy. Of-course wages are stagnant in this depression, which is combined with inflation.

This has nothing to do with anything Marx was talking about.

Crisis. As workers were paid less and less, capitalism would be prone to chronic, perpetual crises of overproduction

- ?? :) OVERPRODUCTION? ::))))) IN USA?? :)))

OK, this is just ridiculous on its face. USA has 53 Billion/Month trade deficit. USA has overconsumption based on inflation and debt but it has no over-production at all. Once China stops subsidizing the US consumer, US consumer will stop consuming, as there will be nothing to consume.

for they wouldn't have the means to purchase or invest in enough goods to keep the economy humming.

- In 19 century USA, the production was growing immensely, while consumption was also growing even though there was actual deflation (contraction of money supply due to gold being money).

Stagnation. Here's Marx's most controversial " and most curious " prediction. That as economies stagnated, real rates of profit would fall.

- there is NOTHING controversial about this. This is true on its face value and if taken separately out of any context. As economy stagnates, profits must fall.

Of-course profits ARE falling, as all of the inflation is wiping out any real profits, and whatever profits are made by super-banks etc., that's all government propped up via further currency destruction.

Alienation. As workers were divorced from the output of their labor, Marx claimed, their sense of self-determination dwindled, alienating them from a sense of meaning, purpose, and fulfillment.

- it's called specialization, which eventually is replaced with automation. Free market capitalism solves this type of problem by automation, where people used to spend all the time doing the same manual or mental task over and over again, free market capitalism solves this by increased efficiency through investments into new types of tools, eventually automating all of the repetitive tasks away. As to feeling satisfaction with ones own work - this is best rewarded in capitalism and it's definitely shunned upon with unionized approach to work.

Unions do not like to reward performance, they reward seniority.

The other part of the problem is government making it increasingly difficult for anybody to start their own business that competes with established monopolies, that government creates, maintains, protects, bails out and stimulates and taxes for. Try and start your own business and see how that works out for you in this over-regulated, overtaxed market, which also will not let you have business credit due to the fact that gov't destroys value of money and savings and makes it impossible to get meaningful credit and all the money goes into government bonds - this is by design.

False consciousness. According to Marx, one of the most pernicious aspects of industrial age capitalism was that the proles wouldn't even know they were being exploited Ã" and might even celebrate the very factors behind their exploitation

- nobody exploits people in real free market.

People are only exploited in government regulated markets, which prevent any kind of real competition, and currency is destroyed, individuality is destroyed and group think is encouraged.

Commodity fetishism. A fetishized object is one which is more than a symbol: it's believed to have actually the power the symbol represents (like an idol, or a totem with magical properties). Marx claimed that under industrial age capitalism's rules, commodities became revered talismans, worshipped through transactional exchanges, imbued with mystical powers that give them inherent value " and obscuring the value of and in the very people who've worked labored over them in the first place.

- iPads.

I don't know what the point of this 'prediction' is. As markets give people more of what they want, people are happier that they can have these things? In free market prices fall, they don't go up and at the same time quality increases and rate of innovation and invention goes up. As prices fall, more and more people can afford anything, and this allows everybody to have basically all the same things as anybody else.

Free market is the great equalizer and distributor, because anybody can have the same stuff, because things are plentiful and cheap.


The answer to the author of this nonsense article is - NO. Marx was not right, he was not an economist, and neither is the author of this..... whatever it is.

Of-course once this comment was left in the story, it immediately was deemed to be a 'troll', which it is not, but /. moderators do not get tired of marking thing that they personally disagree with as 'troll'.

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Marx was wrong

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  • As I recently observed in a sociology class, Marx was not right about a single thing he ever said. The man was a hack, who tried to fit his own personal ideals into some narrative framework, ignoring the fact that none of his predictions had ever happened in the past and didn't even fit with the observed evidence of how societies and economies evolve (we went from communal tribes to more and more specializing and property ownership, there was no evidence to suggest that would revert back to subsistence trib

  • How many Marxists are out there I wonder? How many more will I have to reply to? [] It's tiring.

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