Bill Dawg's Journal: why would I care

AC #1: "the idea of the whole planet dying is not bad at all, everthing has to die at some point"

AC #2: "True. We all die as individuals. Is it really any more tragic if we perish as a species?"

Logged-in Leftie: "You don't care if humanity dies?"

Leftie orthodoxy only passes for sensible if you don't think. Why would I care if the human race dies out?

Or if the earth is dying? I don't have kids, so as long as the planet holds together for my lifetime, what do I care after that? It won't matter to me when I'm dead.

People who've had kids, did so out of their own choice. I wasn't involved. I don't owe them anything. If they want try to "save the earth" for their kids, fine. But it's got nothing to do with me.

It's my duty to treat people well in this life, both my brothers in Christ as well as the lost. But I've no obligation to do anything for any future generations. Their even coming into existence is up to God, not me.

Au contraire

[BarbaraHudson]

It has something to do with you if you're opposing policies that those with kids want to see carried out. Even non-violent pacifists will go to every extreme to protect their kids. It's why we've survived as a species. Species that don't protect their progeny get #DarwinAward'ed pretty quickly. Besides, you may live longer than you thought, and have to live in the sh*t that you created for the next generation.

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[Bill Dawg]

Well I'm going to oppose those things that I think will fuck things up while I'm still alive. I'm not opposing them because I want to ruin it for future generations. I don't care about future generations, either way. I oppose shit because I think it'll affect me in my lifetime.

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[fustakrakich]

Well, too bad, there are people who don't want you fucking things up for them during their lifetime either. So, pffft!

It's my duty to treat people well in this life..

You definitely have a weird way of showing it...

What a crybaby!

Well...

[mcgrew]

That's fine if you only care about yourself. I have a friend (actually an ex-brother in law) who does have kids who shares your opinion.

Personally, I'd like to have the species continue, even though once the Earth dies a natural death by then (4 billion years from now), humans will be less like us than a bonobo.

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[Bill Dawg]

Personally, I'd like to have the species continue

Well, in keeping with the whole point of TFJE: Why?

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[Bill Dawg]

Well, let's see [merriam-webster.com]:

1
a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless

b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

Nope, I hold traditional values and believe in objective truth.

2
a : a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility

b capitalized : the program