Journal shanen's Journal: What defines a troll? 36
I think this was a relevant comment for a discussion of censorship on Twitter, but slashdot's so-called lameness filter disagreed, so I'm putting it here. I think increasingly lame slashdot doth projectith too much.
If there were a "polite" dimension of moderation, then I think one of the most prominent features of trolls would be negative politeness. Large amounts of rudeness. Not the only defining characteristic of trolls, but I think it's an important one, and one of the MANY problems with trolls is how the use of a label as a dimension makes it hard to understand the problem. "Thought-provoking" is NOT the same as troll, though it may be accidentally true from time to time. "Disagrees with me" is also different from troll.
Having said that, I still think trolls should be free to speak, notwithstanding the different form of confusion mentioned in my sig. That right should NOT include the right to waste my time, however, and I should be free to ignore trolls, preferably before I have to read any of their tripe.
As noted before, I'd favor a three-part strategy to ignore them: (1) A kill filter for long-lived trolls, perhaps as an option on the Foe status of slashdot. (2) A maturity filter for fresh sock puppets. (3) A self-deterrence for insincerity. Negative sincerity is another characteristic of trolls, and it would be simple to implement by inverting (1) and (2). If a reply would be ignored, then the author of that reply should be encouraged to post elsewhere (perhaps at the top), but if the troll insists, then the reply should be given an insincerity warning: "Not a sincere dialog, and ostensible recipient will never see this reply."
Get help. You really do crave the attention (Score:1)
Anybody looking at your responses in your last few JEs would tell you the same thing. You are the very definition of petulance, and in this one, projection. Most unfortunate. Your hypersensitivity precludes tolerance of the tiniest difference of opinion, and that is the most nutritious troll food in existence, in fact, it even provokes regular people like us, it turns out you are the troll that is crying out, as this JE itself confirms. Your behavior goes above and beyond, as your next and all subsequent re
Trolls are insane, too. Cf 1673220 (Score:2)
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In reality a troll is just bored. (Score:2)
Most trolls are just bored. And will become rational if you treat them rationally.
A few do not. They can be noted by their slavish adherence to a given persona, usually a persona very different than their own life. These you can reply to ad nauseum.
Then there's the small subset like me: Actually mentally ill with an inability not to answer a direct question, and with a perverse sense of humor enough to pretend to be a sock puppet to somebody else for a while- at least until he crosses one of my autistic
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kind of like sitting in Sheldon's spot on Big Bang Theory
Had to google that...
I feel something similar, but fitting better in the part of Charlotte Corday, in "The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade". One of the best movies ever made.
Old boy is getting a lot of upmods for the JE. Might make the front page. Speaking of sockpuppets, I wonder if he "bused" them in.
Trolls are insane. Cf 1673220 and 638312 (Score:2)
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:-) Hello Mr. Pot. Allow me to introduce you to a couple of old friends [dvdclassicscorner.com]
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You had to google the best reference of autistic OCD on television today?
I think that's the only thing I could think of that is more high functioning autistic than Dr. Sheldon Cooper.
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Yeah, never saw the show (I'll explain some time). After reading up though, it made perfect sense. I'll try to catch an episode or two. Let me finish up on my "Boston Legal" marathon.
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WOW, that's a blast from the past, Boston Legal....another good show with a hidden pro-life message.
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Shatner's best... and he teams with Spader as well as he did with Nimoy.
Circle jerk of 1673220 and 638312 (Score:2)
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After looking through her history, I found where the poor soul started trolling [slashdot.org] at you, her first direct target (that I've checked so far). Notice all the previous journals were mostly empty, and almost all very trollish, going back to the very first JE almost 13 years ago, and one where she was even complaining that nobody would talk to her [slashdot.org]. Until she started acting like Trump himself recently, the JE's were a vacant lot of banality. If it wasn't for us she would be all alone. She can't attract anything el
Masterbation of 1673220 (Score:2)
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I think I'm ready, but not before posting this URL:
https://youtu.be/kb2S3RvC6gg [youtu.be]
Because that's what this has been, a Nigga Moment.
Watch 638312 jack off (Score:2)
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Yes it has been. I guess I get a bit sensitive about phonies when I bump into them. Maybe I do take them too seriously. I become obsessed in ripping off the mask, lest people start to believe their gag is for real. Is it really trolling to make the effort? Or is it anti-trolling?
Emotional masturbation of 1673220 (Score:2)
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ACK
Don't abuse your moderating/metamoderating privileges :-)
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:-) I like that you're exposing yourself in public now. Smart move. I'll leave you the last word out there. Let the whole world see your inner child (which you will repeat here in response to this post.. ZZZ). The ones that respond to you already have you pegged [deviantart.net]. Didn't take them long at all. Enjoy your fame, little "trall". From here it's fun to watch. Don't let the short bus run you down...
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Also trolls like to form mobs to bully and attack (Score:2)
'Nuff said, but please don't feed the trolls using my comments as bait or food.
What is this "lameness filter" that I have again encountered? Can't find any documentation, so I'll go on the theory that it relates to the use of the word that I replaced with "trall" below. The same word appears in its plural form above and in the subject, so it should be obvious.
Yes, that was the problem. Not sure what else triggers it, but too many uses of certain words under certain conditions is censored. Doesn't seem to be a simple count, however, because of the OP.
Kind of sad how little the tralls have changed over the years. Time for a funny little story?
Back in my young days I lived in a city that was a leading-edge hotbed of computer nerds. Probably the most prominent was the Godwin of the eponymous law, but that was around the time he was in law school and before he joined EFF and Wikipedia and other places of repute. (Some guys just can't keep a job, as the joke goes?) One of the prom
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LOL!
purposeful misspelling to circumvent a "filter" [slashdot.org]..
What is this "lameness filter" that I have again encountered? Can't find any documentation, so I'll go on the theory that it relates to the use of the word that I replaced with "trall" below. The same word appears in its plural form above and in the subject, so it should be obvious.
Now who could have possibly provoked that? Satan?
though I'm not sure how true a lawyer's friendship can be
Oh dear! Who's the broad brush "trall" again?
Your accusations are pure puerile projection, symptomatic of what exactly is unknown to the generation population (where you also have apparent difficulties), but it is most obvious. Look back and see who drew "first blood". So I'll leave this little pearl with the hope it will hasten your recovery from whatever it is that you are presently suffering (which your post here indicates you may have already seen als
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Z^5
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Determining the current number of Zs takes more time than a troll is worth.
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Must be worth a lot. You reply and project (and damn near plagiarize those you pretend to ignore [slashdot.org]) every time. You don't know how to simply turn away, and since you do ignore perfectly obvious instructions on how to deal with the issue, it's also perfectly obvious you're just playing a "traIl" game of your own. You are not fooling anybody, except for all the special snowflakes like yourself. However, like with Mr. Trump, there is a real danger that people will take you seriously, and they could bring on a wa
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ACK
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ACK
I don't expect you to reply directly to me. I'll see it in your next journal, or when you post somewhere else. That will be perfectly sufficient to know that you're listening. Your charade is a failure.
From a discussion of trolls on Twitter (Score:2)
So far this was the only post moderated "insightful" that wasn't an obvious troll (or sock puppet) mod. Seems to be about par for today's slashdot, but maybe I'll find another.. (Only two "funny" mods in such a target-rich environment. Slashdot has seriously broken its funny bone.)
[How is it possible to discuss the problematic topic when slashdot censors those discussions with the so-called lameness filter? Anyway, the rest of this post uses the substitute "trall" instead. Mindless censorship of any discuss
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Repetition doesn't make it any more interesting, or less banal. You have been given all the options you need to filter anybody you don't want to hear. What you cannot/shall not do is filter what can be posted outside your journal's safe space. So, instead of being a crybaby, try it, you just might gather the vast audience you're looking for. Read the FAQ [slashdot.org], or put a cork in it. Since you aren't taking advantage, I will assume you are playing a different game than what you post. Trying to censor the entire sit
Masterbation of 1673220 (Score:2)
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:-) So now we now what you are dreaming of.
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Z^10