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Journal damn_registrars's Journal: Fear one for the Gipper! 105

Last week when some of the House Democrats momentarily grew some things that were vaguely spine-like, I posed the question of what Speaker Paul Ryan was fearing. After all, in spite of the Democrats attempt to get a vote on the House floor, the GOP had a slam dunk on the matter as the bills had absolutely no chance whatsoever of passing.

It occurred to me some time later that I was not asking the correct question - or was not seeing the situation for what it was. I overlooked the fact that for some time now, the GOP thrives on fear itself, no matter how irrational. After all, many republicans for some time have gone out of their way to remind us of how very scary the middle name of our POTUS is.

Naturally, while they had no reason to fear these bills that were being called for voting, they had a need to stir up fear.

The only question that remains is will they be able to pull off an October surprise that stirs up enough fear to swing the election their way. As usual, the incompetence of the Democrats certainly is helping the case of the GOP, as the weakest possible candidate has the Democratic nomination locked in. The GOP just has to make sure they don't accidentally trigger a surprise before the end of July or they will find themselves running against a much stronger candidate.
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  • It's your democrats that are using Trump as the Halloween prop to scare everybody away from even thinking about a third party vote.

    • Considering most of that work consists of letting Trump just open his mouth, I don't think that's as big a deal as you think it is.
      • He's the hired clown for the birthday party. The man is a democrat.

        • He's the hired clown for the birthday party.

          The problem with this analysis is that it gives Trump zero agency. The man's an idiot, not an automaton.

          The man is a democrat.

          As even you have argued, this snippet of data is irrelevant.
          • The man is a democrat.

            As even you have argued, this snippet of data is irrelevant.

            That's not how that homey plays this game. With Fusta, things are relevant - or not - only when he says they are. It doesn't matter what he said before, he will tell you when something matters. In this case, it apparently matters.

          • "Agency"? What does that even mean? It's an act, for hire... He's part of Stern's whack pack.

            The man is a democrat.

            As even you have argued, this snippet of data is irrelevant.

            Regardless, that's the brand he trades.

            • "Agency"? What does that even mean?

              Fuck me, there's literally a summary definition above the results when you google the word. See what I mean about bad faith?

              Regardless, that's the brand he trades.

              LOL not even close. His brand is fabulous populism. The only people who think he's a stealth dem are you and the Cruz supporters.
              • Yes, I read all that. The ability to "act" or "decide".. so what? He has no more or less than anybody else. Your opinion (which is one more of the many I can chalk up as subjective) is derived from the wire services, and maybe watching his followers, not any kind of personal knowledge. "Bad faith"? I would say you're projecting a bit of your own.

                His brand is fabulous populism. The only people who think he's a stealth dem are you and the Cruz supporters.

                You're so right. I got a little wrapped in the soap op

                • He has no more or less than anybody else.

                  Not according to you.

                  Your opinion (which is one more of the many I can chalk up as subjective)

                  Are you referring to me calling him an idiot or something else? You weren't specific.

                  "Bad faith"? I would say you're projecting a bit of your own.

                  102
                  • Not according to you.

                    And I said that where? Does he not choose to put on the red nose?

                    102

                    :-) Ah, yes, If you say it first, it's like getting the center square, you can't lose. You are the swift little rabbit...

                    • According to you, he's a wind-up puppet playing his part to perfection in a grand kabuki drama. If this a gross mis-characterization of what you said, let me know.

                      You are the swift little rabbit...

                      There's no reward for being fast with that particular engram. You had it right the first time: persistence.
                    • Yes, you don't understand that he chooses to play that role? Everybody is their own agent. If you believe I said otherwise, then this should correct that perception

                      You had it right the first time: persistence.

                      Well, not really... Obtuse is more like it.

                    • Yes, you don't understand that he chooses to play that role?

                      Of course I understand this. I was making the point that calling him a "Hired Clown" is hyperbolic at best, and is part of a pattern of you "othering" people you don't understand or don't like. He can run his performance anyway he likes, but none of that matters under your implication, making him barely more than a cog in the machine.

                      Well, not really... Obtuse is more like it.

                      Christ son, you flip-flop and slither as good any politician
                    • I was making the point that calling him a "Hired Clown" is hyperbolic at best

                      Why? That is the act he is playing... Once again you are just being contrary.

                      Christ son, you flip-flop and slither as good any politician, you know that?

                      I was trying to be nice.

                    • Dude, don't use words if you don't fucking mean 'em. In just a few short posts your boy Trump morphed from organ grinder's monkey to loose cannon. Make up your fucking mind.
                    • Again you have a comprehension problem. Being the monkey is Trump's choice. If you don't have space in your dense skull for that, maybe you can find a more comfortable place. Now I have to figure you're just trolling.

                    • You seem to think you're saying that Trump likes to be a buffoon. What you actually said in your original comment was that Trump was playing at being a buffoon in order to enact someone else's agenda.

                      Now I have to figure you're just trolling. Flag as Inappropriate

                      103
                    • What you actually said in your original comment was that Trump was playing at being a buffoon in order to enact someone else's agenda.

                      Yeah, I said he is a hired clown, so what? He's getting paid! And besides, maybe he does like it and he might doing it for free, as a favor, or he likes Hillary and wants her to win. It is his choice. In fact, he wight even want to be president. He is his own agent. What the fuck do you know about the man? You just read the rags. Try going with the plausible. Quid pro quo is

                    • Yeah, I said he is a hired clown, so what?

                      Oh fuck me that's hilarious! Jesus, show a little humility and move the fuck on already. Oh, and get an editor while you're at it.

                      You just read the rags.

                      Another assumption that keeps biting you in the ass. I read and write more words in an hour than you will all day, chump. I'd ask you to keep up, but as I said, you're incapable.

                      Keep on grasping

                      104
                    • 104

                      :-)

                      Yes, maybe it is best if you move on.

                    • Hmm, I've completely discounted the fact that even you don't take yourself seriously. Silly me.

                      Yes, maybe it is best if you move on.

                      105
                    • 105

                      :-) Well, with your silly troll charade, I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously...

                    • :-) Well, with your silly troll charade

                      106

                      I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously...

                      You can stop replying to me anytime you want, but you seem to be unable to define yourself without someone else's shadow to provide cover, so here we are. Come get your 107.
                    • 108, 109, 110, 111....

                      :-) You really are a funny guy!

                    • :-) You really are a funny guy!

                      Somebody go fix fusta. He only seems to be able to express himself via passive-aggressive condescension.

                      108, 109, 110, 111....

                      Tut-tut. You haven't earned those yet, excitable puppy.
                    • passive-aggressive condescension

                      :-) You can mark this one 112 since that is all you have left to do.

                    • :-) You can mark this one 112

                      Wow, you've already forgotten the purpose of the numbers? Hint: Your last two pasts didn't merit one, so maybe you'll be able to puzzle it out.

                      since that is all you have left to do.

                      That's an illusion. You just really give me so little to work with when all you're essentially writing is "LOLZ!"
                    • You don't get it. I decide what I merit, not you. You're just another opinionated goof, and considering your wit and charm, not that different from Trump himself. You're not him, are you?

                    • You don't get it. I decide what I merit, not you

                      ROFLMAO! Another slashdot nerd thinks a conversation is a unilateral display of his e-peen! Thanks for the taxonomy tip.

                      You're just another opinionated goof

                      Now that's more like it! Now serving 107!
                    • Now see? you already lost count. And by the way. This is like any other drug, you can stop anytime.

                    • Now see? you already lost count.

                      Ooooh, talk about whiffing a shot! Coulda been averted if only your mouse's scroll wheel weren't broken. Oh the humanity!

                      This is like any other drug, you can stop anytime.

                      Since I've never expressed any desire to do so, why would you think making this argument would be worth your time?
                    • As you can see here [slashdot.org], I bumped into a couple of your compatriots this morning who take the same dim view of reality that you do, and pretty much react the same way when confronted with it. All the world's problems in one neat little package.

                      There, I mark that as number 1,000,033... Or to you, the square root of -1.

                    • Best non-sequitur post EVAR. You really do like shying away from answering direct questions, don't you?
                    • Good dodge! You really are the pro!

                    • Good dodge!

                      Was non-sequitur really that difficult for you to type? 108.

                      You really are the pro!

                      You keep saying these things you don't believe, that both of us know is untrue, in a chipper and upbeat manner. I wonder if there's a name for that?
                    • It wasn't a non-sequitor. It's just you dodging the subject. And your count is still off. It's up to 3 billion by now.

                      And what am I saying that I don't believe? Bring me into the loop here. Seems like you got cross threaded with somebody else.

                    • It wasn't a non-sequitor. It's just you dodging the subject.

                      109.

                      And your count is still off. It's up to 3 billion by now.

                      Heh. Even in your dreams, you're nowhere near that prolific.

                      Bring me into the loop here.

                      Oh NOW you want something clarified? Fuck dude, add slow to your stupid
                    • 109

                      I guess this will be your ongoing cop out for the rest of the season, eh? Cool by me... Very revealing.. And you didn't answer my question. Figures... Just plain old trolling. Such a child...

                    • I guess this will be your ongoing cop out for the rest of the season, eh?

                      Priceless! A chronicle of your sophomoric arguing style and near-perfect ability to slander everyone with your shortcomings becomes my copout. You earned this one, buddy:

                      110

                      And you didn't answer my question.

                      111! Look at you pretending to give a fuck about discourse!

                      Figures... Just plain old trolling. Such a child...

                      112! I'm...impressed, honestly I am. Zero fucking self-awareness.
                    • I'm talking with an automated response generator.

                    • ROFLMAO!!! The guy who writes, short, vague posts full of run-on sentences; who can't remember anything he or anyone else has previously posted; who slings around passive-aggressive gibberish asides whenever he encounters a compound sentence; who demands behaviour from others he's unwilling to do himself;

                      is giving ME shit about my writing? Go take some remedial English classes, you illiterate fucktard.
                    • Your responder is spitting gobbledygook. Please make the necessary repairs.

                      you illiterate fucktard.

                      :-) Most excellent! Give me that money shot!

                    • Twat doubles down on his subpar reading comprehension, news at 11.

                      :-) Most excellent! Give me that money shot!

                      ...he said, already bukkake'd beyond all recognition.
                    • Oh! Hit me harder with that supreme wit! Internet rage is the latest thing. Ah well, at least now we see the essence of your entire shtick. You could have saved yourself all that time and trouble, or maybe you just enjoy masturbating in public. Knock yourself out. *I like to watch* Here's another dime.

                    • Internet rage is the latest thing.

                      Heh, if you think that's rage, you must be more of a special snowflake than I thought.

                      Ah well, at least now we see the essence of your entire shtick.

                      This is what, the third or fourth time you've "figured me out". If your memory weren't spotty, you wouldn't have to embarrass yourself like this.

                      or maybe you just enjoy masturbating in public.

                      113!

                      Knock yourself out. *I like to watch* Here's another dime.

                      Ugh, more of that shitty cliche-ridden writing s
                    • Rocky Horror Picture Show. Audience participation is a staple. But maybe I overvalued your gag. Here's a penny for your thought.

                    • This explains a lot, although, I didn't think you were that old and crusty. Learn something new everyday.
                    • That's only worth half a penny's worth. Consider the other half a tip, and go buy some kid a piece of gum.

                    • Fuck me, gonna be Cheech and Chong bits next. Then I suppose some classic Carlin? What was it like getting to see Captain and Tenille on tour?
                    • Your machine is still broken. It has gone off the deep end. Maybe it needs more than a couple days rest. My printer would do that sometimes. Just prints weird glyphs, makes about as much sense as you do. Eh, it's your game (whichever it is), your rules.... I'm just playing along

                    • Once again, the irony of being Eliza'd by an idiot who can only regurgitate stale comedy bits.

                      I'm just playing along

                      We both know that's not true, don't we?
                    • Eh, believe what you want. I'm just enjoying the ride.

                      stale?

                      Wow, you just gave me another ten points on your little score card. I won't even bother saying it, don't have to. You got the jump shot, you get the gold star pinned on your forehead every time...

                      *Just... fascinating.. What'll he say next?*

                    • I'm just enjoying the ride.

                      For very elastic values of enjoy, apparently.
                    • And you just keep on going.... like the Duracell Bunny

                    • I guess that makes you the second-rate competitor slumped over in the corner then?

                      Maybe metaphors aren't your thing?
                    • I guess that makes you the second-rate competitor...

                      Have I ever claimed otherwise? And "competing"? Again, that's your department. But since you struck first, I already know the response to that. You are the *most ut*, the supreme being. I couldn't hope to even compare to your supremeness.. In fact, that shall be your title in the absence of the elders. But, your shtick? Even though you try with all your might, you're still just a dingleberry compared to the old timers, including Red. He gave an even better

                    • And "competing"? Again, that's your department.

                      Live by a shitty analogy, die by a shitty analogy Stop blaming others for the fact that you have the attention span of a goldfish.

                      But, your shtick?

                      I see you're still confused. You have a schtick. I know this because you do the same "heh-indeeedy" barebones commenting to everyone.

                      As for me? I just fucking hate you. It ain't more complicated than that.
                    • I just fucking hate you

                      Cool! Too hip! Means I struck oil!

                      I love you enough for the both of us.

                      So, to mooch off of Red:

                      Love and Kisses! mon cherie!

                    • oops:

                      barebones commenting

                      Ahhh, I get it... You prefer long winded wordy bullshit that sounds all philosophical and stuff. Gotta be serious when speaking with people who talk about nothing. Can't waste all that college money on the simple and the plausible. Word count... I shall try to work on that, but don't hold your breath. And don't worry, your supremeness will always stand tall amongst us midgets.

                      to everyone?

                      I doubt it, unless "everyone" is you and your little friend, which, yeah, you get what you merit

                    • Yeah, congrats, you got your UMADBRO trophy. Hope the taxes on tht hing kill ya.

                      I love you enough for the both of us.

                      You sure do like to lie as often as you claim others do.
                    • You prefer long winded wordy bullshit that sounds all philosophical and stuff.

                      No. I like content. You not only provide none, you create no space for yourself to create any in the first place. Why am I supposed to like it like that or think it's any good?

                      Gotta be serious when speaking with people who talk about nothing.

                      See now, I'm partial to your point. Verbiage can and certainly has been used to cover up a multitude of sins. But when you've got the vocab of a fourth grader and the middlebr
                    • What I say you just wave off. No point in getting serious with that kind of crap. Sorry if I just end up assuming your personality. It just happens with no effort on my part. You shouldn't be so upset with the reflection. It is yours after all. And with that, we all know the routine, make another mark on your little scorecard there and tell the world how super smart you are.

                    • Why would you think I'm lying about that? What would I possibly have against you? You're just another funny guy on a troll run. There's nothing wrong with that. You do what makes you happy. As the man once said, "Please, continue"...

                    • And with that, we all know the routine, make another mark on your little scorecard there and tell the world how super smart you are.

                      You'd think a concept like hate would be so obvious as to obviate this kind of clueless armchair psychology.
                    • Because you have to care to love. You've got to show commitment. And you ain't got neither.
                    • Hate? Where? I don't hate anybody...

                    • Ah, I see. "commitment" for what? Internet trolling? Sorry, even I can recognize a fad when I see one. You get respect when you show respect.

                    • "commitment" for what? Internet trolling?

                      Why so narrow a scope? You can't commit to anything. Stop selling yourself short.

                      You get respect when you show respect.

                      Which would explain why everyone you interact with here treats you like the fantasist shithead that you are.
                    • I am going die waiting for you to be able to offend me.

                      Hah! Not even close to my objective. Keep guessing, fool.

                      yep that's everybody... Ah, the miracle of confirmation bias...

                      Got a bigger dataset? Of course you don't.

                      See, it's your idiocy that drew me to you in the first place.

                      We both know that's also a lie. You love to spray your shit everywhere. Stop pretending I'm special to you.

                      But I always let you draw first blood, and you haven't failed me yet.

                      LOL, you couldn't even pap
                    • Obviously you don't

                      Sure I do. Unlike you, my scroll wheel ain't broke and my memory's not faulty. If you're coming all over some other website, shoot me a link so I can add it in.

                      constantly having to remind yourself of your supremeness

                      No, that's a comment on how you suck. You're the one bringing in the comparisons that aren't there in the first place.

                      It's all good fun.

                      Then why can't you take it without whining like a little bitch?

                      but you feel compelled... to do what exactly?

                      You'
                    • Loving it. Your obsession makes you an anthropologist but makes me a beancounter. Your little narcissistic world is so fucking fascinating
                    • Heh. You suck at human psychology. Then again, via your methods, I suppose you'll eventually stumble onto my levers. But not today.
                    • "I don't care but I'll still reply to you."

                      FTFY.
  • the weakest possible candidate has the Democratic nomination locked in

    Well, except for the "locked in" part.

    I get that picking Ms. Warren as her running mate will energize the base around Hillary *somewhat*, but I don't know if America is ready for the first woman president let alone both halves of the ticket being occupied by women. It wasn't stretching much to elect a Black man as prez (especially one of the "articulate" and "clean" ones), as skin color doesn't signify anything to anyone regarding leadership qualities, such as temperament. But gender does.

    But even if Hill

    • I get that picking Ms. Warren as her running mate

      I got twenty bucks says that's not happening.

      But gender does.

      I seriously have to ask: Do you understand you're essentially dismissing 160 million Americans based on something that has no legal, moral or scientific basis?

      I still can't fathom why the Dem Party wouldn't ditch her at the convention and make Bernie the nominee.

      It's quite simple. There's no evidence to support the idea that Bernie, a man who couldn't win a majority of his own p
      • I got twenty bucks says

        Who does your talking money say then? The only list of supposed likelies I've seen are a bunch of boring guys no one's ever heard of.

        essentially dismissing 160 million Americans

        Settle down, Beavis, no one is saying that anyone would count having female hormones as outright disqualification for the office. Just a non-insignificant consideration, to many, I think.

        There's no evidence to support

        You mean besides the polls before Hillary wrapped it up showing her and Trump in a dead heat but Sanders way ahead of Trump?

        • are a bunch of boring guys no one's ever heard of.

          You could not have summed up the qualifications to be VP any better. Only in this case, it's likely to be a boring latino male.

          Just a non-insignificant consideration, to many, I think.

          Oh sure, I agreed with that part earlier. Still don't make it right though. And the fact that this can still be a big topic of discussion on the right is hurting you with female voters.

          You mean besides the polls before Hillary wrapped it up showing her and Tru
          • latino

            I sure love you guys' definition of "diversity". You people think you can hire a whole newsroom of people who think identically, but look slightly different, and you've got "diversity". Oo, just imagine it, the first latino VP. I'm getting chills.

            Still don't make it right though.

            Only to you guys' fucked up sense of morality, where "fairness" trumps merit. It makes it right to me. I've worked with some women who act professional just like the men and contain themselves and just later stab you in the back like male American workers do.

            • In reality, people vote how they feel like it.

              The science really doesn't back that up. Those 'made up' lines, (developed by social and political scientists, not liberals) turn out to be fairly useful in projecting elections.

              For example, Trump has to improve on Romney's disastrous numbers with latinos and women in order to win an election in 2012. Add in 4 years of demographic drift and the fact that he's not even pretending to try and woo those votes means he's gone and handicapped himself with n
              • It's all irrelevant, because Trump cannot win. The convention is already shaping up to be a disaster, with people avoiding it so they won't get any splash-back. People are tired and fed up and just want it over. Can't say I blame them..

                Elizabeth Warren? Why not - two women shouldn't be any more of a big deal then two men.

                • Elizabeth Warren? Why not

                  I really suspect Warren doesn't want to be on a ticket with Hillary. Warren is one of the best-liked democrats in all of Washington, why would she want to be the pleasant side of a ticket with one of the least-liked politicians we've seen in a long time? It would dilute her brand, which is increasing in value regularly. I could see her being Secretary of the Interior, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Education, or maybe even Surgeon General. But as VP she would be taking a step out

              • It's sad that it's about "building a political coalition", rather than just "hey, vote for me if you like where I'm coming from".

                And I couldn't decipher if you were saying it's a red flag for HR being a man or a woman.

                • It's sad that it's about "building a political coalition", rather than just "hey, vote for me if you like where I'm coming from".

                  It's always been that way. Historically, single-issue parties have the shortest shelf life.

                  And I couldn't decipher if you were saying it's a red flag for HR being a man or a woman.

                  Apologies, that was stupid of me. I meant Human Resources there.
                  • Historically, single-issue parties have the shortest shelf life.

                    I meant along racial/gender/who you want to fuck/other lines that don't really mean things in common like e.g. "fiscal conservatism" and "save duh erf" do. I'm lamenting the forming of coalitions on essentially non-issues/non-intellectual things.

                    I meant Human Resources there.

                    Funny. It was just a simple question, sheesh.

            • In reality, people vote how they feel like it.

              That is true, but you're always going to bump into people who deny that all choices are personal. Extreme duress under physical threat can complicate matters, but that's not the situation here. What the science indicates but doesn't tell you is that people choose to follow whatever it is they find attractive, and the reasons, no matter what the claimed motivations, contradictions are, are strictly personal. Every other claim only amounts to, *The devil made me d

              • I sense you're trying to make a point here. Maybe just saying what it is might help.

                • I did, in the very first sentence. I don't know what game you are playing this time.

                  • So then WTF does "all choices are personal" mean?

                    • Because of all the idiots out there saying there is no choice on the ballots when they are right there in front of their fat noses. And believe it or not, I was agreeing with you, god forbid! Go hang out with CS. I'm sure you'll have a lot to talk about.

                      You really are kind of a maroon...

                    • So "all choices are personal" means "you can vote third party"?!?

                      This is a recurring problem with you. You have things in your head like A -> B -> C -> D -> E, but you state them as things like A -> D. Makes perfect sense to you because you've already been thinking about B and C (and E). Everyone else just thinks of you as Captain WTF, and hence rightly so.

                      TL;DR: We can't read your fucking mind.

                    • Oy! Never mind... You're like those damn news people who need to stretch a 30 second story into eight minutes of setup. Learn how to cut to the chase.

  • You just now figured that out? They've thrived on fear for decades. Look at Clinton vs Bush after a WTC bombing. Clinton sicced the FBI on the perpetrators and put them in prison. No fear mongering from him, but he did strongly warn Bush about that group. Bush ignored his warnings and all the data from FBI field offices and they brought the WTC down with airliners. Anger got us into Afghanistan, American's media and government fear mongering got us into Iraq.

    Also think of this: Since Ford, no Republican pre

    • I have noticed for a long time that the GOP thrived on fear. What I couldn't figure out was what they were fearing with these can't-pass gun proposals. I figured they had enough fear stirred up that they didn't need to add to it, but apparently someone there felt otherwise. Did they feel they needed to stir this pot up because they knew that their latest Benghazi report was going to again fail to justify calling for the extralegal executions of Hillary and Obama?

      Anger got us into Afghanistan

      I have admitted before and will admit aga

    • the GOP thrives on fear itself

      Ah, but fear of Trump will save the day. "Lesser Evil"®, right? Same shit, different day [mentalfloss.com]

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