Journal Profane MuthaFucka's Journal: Final answer 23
The winnar of the last question was insanecarbonbasedlif (623558) for the question of what a racist is. The answer insight-fully disconnected a racist from mere actions; linking a racist to a relationship with a racist system.
A racist is a person who supports or enables a racist system
There's an interesting consequence of this definition. You don't have to be prejudiced or bigoted to be a racist. All you have to do to be a racist is to participate in a racist system, benefit from it, and do nothing to stop it.
Now all you bitches who were complaining about my other definitions, which were relatively uncontroversial, REALLY have something to bitch about.
You said it, A/C (Score:2)
Romans 3:23 "All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God".
Whether by omission or commission, we're all in this together. Thanks, PMF.
Now, what sort of Christ do you propose to help us overcome our existential estrangement?
Without some sort of ontological process underway, some teleological point to existence, then why not pursue a hedonism?
This is a serious question. Why not turn the whole thing up to a nihilistic 11?
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What are you talking about?
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Can all of you numerous anonymous cowards stop cluttering my journal? I'm waiting for the AC who thinks he knows about fascism to make an appearance.
But since you asked, in a democracy there is an implicit sharing of responsibility for the shape of society. If the society is racist, then all have at least some responsibility for it. The guilt is universal, but the title of racist only goes to those who support or enable a racist system.
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First you rag on my ass about my fetish for definitions. Now you're bitching because I'm too vague.
Define that shit for me, and let's see if we can figure it out.
And have we been introduced? I don't seem to have met you before.
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Welcome to my journal. I can see you're brand new here. Sit back, read a while, a contribute something if you like. Welcome!
While you're at it, can you tell me what your thoughts are about those words. Get the ball rolling! Glad to have you here.
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Hi, nice of you to join us. But your first post here doesn't seem to make sense. Try again?
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HILJ is who? Stan is who? And who said that we were all racists?
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I'm sorry, we haven't been introduced. I'm Profane Muthafucka, pleased to meet you.
Clarification (Score:1)
All you have to do to be a racist is to participate in a racist system, benefit from it, and do nothing to stop it.
Of course, all these words are definable to more and more exact terms, but the one in particular that I care about is the word "benefit". I suppose if you consider emotional responses as benefits, the statement is true as stands, but I seem to remember a great number of racists that engaged in racism not to their own benefit, but only to the harm of the victims. As I said, if the emotional exercise and resultant rush of hatred (or even the subtler smug feeling of superiority) is considered a benefi
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I seem to remember a great number of racists that engaged in racism not to their own benefit,
The actual definition is a supporter or enabler of a racist system. So someone who does racist things (supports the racist system) even if it doesn't benefit them is still a racist.
The part you responded to was not intended to be the definition of racism I put forward. I could have worded it better.
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An aside (Score:1)
Actions based on personal taste and preferences are quite different from ideological actions. Racism is problematic due to ideology, not personal preferential choice. Otherwise we start
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Two points:
What about the racism that is not ideological?
And is the Harrison Bergeron scenario particularly appropriate here? The point is not to make people feel better about themselves, the point is to correct injustice.
The corrections in Harrison Bergeron weren't examples of injustice.
The injustice of racism is not that people are born black, the injustice is that black people do not have the same opportunities to participate in the life and benefits of our society.
So, I am not persuaded.
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What about the racism that is not ideological?
I struggle to find any examples of racism that are not ideological. I've always assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that all racism had at at its roots at least the ideology of "We are intrinsically better than them". Often there are a great number of other ideologies attached as well, but this (in my experience) is the core doctrine, and held to most dogmatically by the racist.
And is the Harrison Bergeron scenario particularly appropriate here? The point is not to make people feel better about themselves, the point is to correct injustice.
My point was that if we start trying to prevent people from exercising personal preference, this is the flip side to the Harrison Berger
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There are a number of stark differences between black and white in the USA, none of which required any decisions, or ideology to cause.
Look at differences in income, life expectancy, educational achievement, age of first marriage, family stability, substance abuse, violent crime victim status, executions, home ownership, and on and on.
Black people are a lot worse off than white people, and most have never seen segregation or anything like it in person. Yet, differences along racial lines persist.
Just consid
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even without a huge ideological force behind it
That is the point on which we disagree, I guess. I think there are a huge number of people who refuse to admit that they are even racist at all but are comfortable in their (let's coin a term) crypto-racism. These people feel free to dismiss anyone of a certain look and/or background without considering the individual. They (and this I have confronted with some people directly) will deny that they are even being a little racists. They claim instead that "everybody generalizes", and that they "give everyone