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Journal dedazo's Journal: This must be stopped 6

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This is a perfect example of why gun-control laws in Europe are so excellent and should be adopted by the US.

Oh wait....

(not to belittle deaths, obviously. It's a tragedy when innocent people are killed like this, regardless of method or motive)

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  • Please explain what random stabings have to do with gun control. A better example of the effectiveness of European gun control might be the 80 million Euro jewelry heist in France this year [timesonline.co.uk]. While the robbers had guns, nobody else did and no shots were fired.

    I don't know about you, but I would consider 80M worth of jewelry to be a pretty small loss in comparison to somebody not coming home from work.

    • The difference of opinion may boil down to the weightings one places on "somebody not coming home from work", for different somebodies. To me eighty million euros is worth a lot more than those robbers coming home from their "work".

      And I guess also on what is considered to be the goal of society in such encounters. Some evidently are content with "no shots fired". But others would rather see loss of property and innocent life deterred or cut short.

      • The difference of opinion may boil down to the weightings one places on "somebody not coming home from work", for different somebodies. To me eighty million euros is worth a lot more than those robbers coming home from their "work".

        Perhaps I was ambiguous. I meant to refer to the shopkeepers coming home from work. Had someone inside the shop tried to play hero by drawing a gun, they could well have been shot themselves. I have no pity for whatever becomes of the robbers, but being as the shopkeepers themselves were not killed I consider the 80M Euros an acceptable loss.

        • Had someone inside the shop tried to play hero by drawing a gun, they could well have been shot themselves.

          And they also could've been shot not drawing a gun. People get shot and stabbed and beaten in robberies and other crimes for no reason at all. We call them senseless acts of violence and it happens all the time. It's fallacious thinking to assume that bad guys are reasonable and rational and if you just give them their way then everything will be all hunky dory. Let's face it, if you're committing a (v

          • if you're committing a (violent) crime like armed robbery, reason is not playing a factor

            You seem to be inclined to feel that armed robbery begins with murder as an intended outcome. I am not aware of anything that supports that idea. If a criminal (or criminal-to-be) is set out to pull off a robbery, why would they want to complicate the matter with additional offenses committed in the same act?

            Armed thugs and sicko slashers are the last people on earth one should be projecting such attributes on.

            There is no evidence that I am aware of to support placing the people involved in the jewelry theft that I mentioned as being in either of those groups.

            • ...why would they want to complicate the matter with additional offenses committed in the same act?

              You're begging the question. Criminals (or at least non- white-collar ones/mastermind swindlers) are typically stupid. And often out of their minds due to rage, desperation, drugs, depression or worse mental illness, maybe others. That's why they all-too-often end up complicating matters.

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