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  • I completely disagree with Obama's policies as I've thus far heard them.
    Let's just make the return to the Carter presidency as painful as possible.
    At least Obama gives good speeches.
    • If we get Hillary, that's fine too. But the GOP must learn that if they screw America on foreign policy, economics, civil liberties, and trash our military, there are consequences. McCain might be a good man, but they put up Bush. They allowed Rove to swift boat McCain eight years ago, and Kerry four years ago. There must be a change. We cannot elect another Republican. (This is very difficult with a ferret crawling all over my desk.)

      We probably could do better than Obama. But he's what we got. A
      • Doubtless you'll disagree, but my opinion is that the Republican damage in the last 50 years has actually been less than that of the Democratic in terms of foreign policy, economics, civil liberties, and the military.
        My motive for saying this is rooted in
        http://philoofalexandria.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/locke-v-rousseau/ [wordpress.com]
        I come down heavily on the Locke side of the discussion. Why? The state never exceeds being a collection of individuals. All of these appeals to fine abstractions in the form of progr

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by ces ( 119879 )
          Well thing is the republican party of the last say 15 years or so is like a cancer upon the nation that needs to be excised.

          Bush and company are anathema to anyone who believes in the ideals espoused by Locke.

          Now I'm not sure Obama will do the necessary operation, but I feel he's the best shot we have this year.
          • In my opinion, the cancerous growth has been the general belief in government as a solution.
            Aspects of this are indeed present in the Republican policies, e.g. the TSA, but that is symptomatic of the broader trend to just punt all of the personal responsibility upstream.
            Obama will be handing out further velvet handcuffs in the form of some bogus universal health care "plan".
            Which is not to say that health care in the US does not, itself, need a trip to the doctor.
            However, empowering the Fed to handle ma
            • I would agree with your statement about the Republicans over the past fifty years, but not over the past twenty years. Basically, George Bush, Newt Gingrich and the Republican Revolution have been a complete and utter failure. There needs to be a response. The US people must make the Republican Party aware that they move so far away from the center, there will be a response. Whether the response is Obama or Clinton is irrelevant, as they have basically the same platform. Frankly, I liked Bill Clinton a

              • I liked Bill Clinton and he was good for me economically
                I submit that we overrate the good/bad effects of a POTUS on the economy.
                However, it would be interesting to know just how much effect the media has on the economy.
                I don't think it takes much Lexus/Nexis research to show form whom the media is in the tank.
                • They hated that guy. I wonder why. The economy was so good. Basically no unemployment. Strong foreign policy. A war won well and with allies.
                  • They hated him for being such a centrist. They hated his nominal liberalism, yet willingness to do explosive landscaping in the Balkans.
                    I admit he is a great, persuasive speaker, yet hold little regard for anyone in a leadership position anywhere whose personal deportment is of lower quality than his subordinates. As a military type, I expect personal character proportional to position in the chain of command. The fact that Clinton as POTUS was an elected official is no free pass with me.
                    • So did Clark win in the Balkans, did Clinton, did Albright, did Solana, or was it someone else?

                    • Re: (Score:2)

                      by Abm0raz ( 668337 ) *
                      They hated him for bombing white people. It's OK with the media of the last 60 years when we bomb brown people, but white and yellow are off limits. Yellow people were OK when they bombed us first, but otherwise, they're off limits, too.
                    • To quote Pontius Pilate, "What is truth?"
                      What point do you want to make?
                      They essentially ended Slobodan Milosevic's brutal aspirations. Let's go ahead and credit Clinton.
                      There is a larger historical point to be made regarding the interaction of Europe and Islam to be drawn from it, though not a positive one.
                      Here in the birthplace of WWI, the EU could not muster the sack to stop a butcher.
                      A good, brief read on the topic of Europe in general:
                      http://www.amazon.com/Decline-Fall-Europes-Motion-Suicide/dp/ [amazon.com]
                    • Milosevic was not a sympathetic character. Sticking up for him is like sticking up for Fidel Castro or Saddam Hussein.
                      Serious isolationists or pacifists would hate Clinton for bombing in the first place. I don't think choice of target added anything to the discontent with Clinton.
                    • I would agree with you, but if you recall, the GOP was rabidly against that war. They were truly hostile and actively worked to undermine Clinton's authority to wage a very limited campaign.
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