tomhudson's Journal: Eclipse IDE - do people actually use it for c/c++ coding????

I decided to give Eclipse another try today. Downloaded the latest version (3.2.2 after all the updates) and the packages necessary for c/c++ coding.

I cannot believe how painfully s - l - l - o - o - o - w - w - w - w - w it is, for what little additional functionality it appears to bring to the party if you're doing c ...

I also tried out jedit (liked the edit buffers "a la emacs" thingee, and it was easy to add the ctags plugin, but I absolutely HATED the funky scrollbars that just refused to scroll properly no matter how I changed them in "preferences").

Strange, but vim + ctags still comes out much better from a usability standpoint (and so does Kate if you absolutely need a gui - its also nice to use if you stretch it across 2 monitors - have one monitor just for editing, the other for the dialogs. I'll try out the kate ctags blugin tomorrow).

ddd, on the other hand, is totally awesome. Being able to step backwards, even in a multi-threaded application (okay, it'll eventually crash if you do that too much, but STILL - back-stepping the instruction pointer and seeing it actually work "as advertised" - double plus goodness).

That and valgrind. Throw in the boost libraries and you're all set.

SlickEdit

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I also tried out jedit (liked the edit buffers "a la emacs" thingee, and it was easy to add the ctags plugin, but I absolutely HATED the funky scrollbars that just refused to scroll properly no matter how I changed them in "preferences").

Try SlickEdit... I was showing a guy at work and he was blown away that I could grab the scrollbar's thumb and drag it from the top of a 1.8GB file all the way down to the bottom, with the program randomly accessing the appropriate scrollbar position instantaneously with zero delay. And it has edit buffers... that's what reminded me of it. :)

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[tomhudson]

Its funny because edit buffers was the feature that turned off one of the other programmers - "too much like emacs!!!" He prefers nano.

"Nano." "vim." "Nano!" "vim!" "Nano!!" "vim!!!!!" "Nano!!!!!*@&@" "*#&#*vim!!!!!"

- everyone else wondering what the heck we're talking about - they use **gack** notepad.exe when they need a plain-text editor ... the philistines!

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Nano?

Anyone who doesn't use vim is just retarded.

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i use nano, you insensitive clod!
although i do use vim when necessary - namely vipw and visudo.
i can see it now: the "nano vs. ed" flamewars of 2009.

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I like SlickEdit but it doesn't handle python as good as Komodo, at least the version I evaluated. SE's vim keybinding worked so much better than Komodo, but in the end it came down to money.

If I was just doing straight C++ or even Java, I'd use it.

I do

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but I hate it.

It is PAINFULLY slow. Lately I've been trying out more stuff with xcode though (since I'm on OS X). I like it, but I havn't goten used to it yet.