Or is it really slashdotted that fast?
I wanted to find out where larry ellisson was. He was No2 at some point of time , but I think the DotCom bust took care of that.
Anyway is'nt it funny that US Tech industry is going downhill for the workers whil the Industry is making money for the "bosses" (and the investors) ?
If they keep making money like this and the middleclass keeps getting smaller (less manufacturing, less IT , design is doing well though) at this rate is USA headed for a crisis? Since the ric
So even through a massive recession, and firings and layoffs, the average salary is 5.296% higher than it was 3 years earlier. So, which industry is going downhill again?
In 1999, the median salary for a US Systems Administrator was $64,271. As of 2002, the average salary was $67,675 ($67,920 for males, and $64,946 for females).
You're forgetting about inflation [westegg.com]. Your income has gone down in real terms. An income of $64,271 in 1999 is equivalent to a salary of $68,671.92 in 2002. Conversely, a salary of $67,675 in 2002 is equivalent to earning $63,337.97 in 1999.
the median salary for a US Systems Administrator was $64,271. As of 2002, the average salary was $67,675 ($67,920 for males, and $64,946 for females).
That's nice, but according to the US Bureau Of Labor Statistics' CPI Inflation Calculator [bls.gov], in order for your $64,271 salary to be keep pace with inflation, you'd have to be making $69,401. Since you made less than that, you've effectively gotten a paycut.
(Note, the calculator doesn't accept values greater than $9999.99. I assume this is because, to the c
Considering I'm squeeking by at $47K I want to know where those Admin jobs are.
My last pay raise was 2%. Many of my fellow admin friends are unemployed. The others are clawing for new jobs because their work environment has gone to hell in a handbasket.
And don't forget. When you cease being a network admin and take a job at starbucks or helpdesk for city hall, you cease counting towards the "Admin" statistic.
If I have 10,000 people who are paid $30,000 a year, 1000 people who are paid $50,000 a year, and 100 people who are paid $70,000 a year, the median would be $50,000 a year. The average however, would be $32,162.
Which do you think is the best representation?
Using the median is valid in some cases, like housing costs where a few extremely valuable properties can skew the average housing cost. But I highly doubt system administrators have such variance in their compensation... something to think about.
As of 2002, the average salary was $67,675 ($67,920 for males, and $64,946 for females).
Interesting, from those figures we get 91.8% of system administrators are male. Yeah, I knew the male/female ratio was high, but I didn't expect it to be that high.
Huge amounts of jobs are gone, they raised a bit the salaries. Result, they saved loads of money on IT spending, normally stacking unreasonable amounts of work in the "privileged" few left behind.
And here you are, thanking them for the privilege.
Some people have vocation of masochists.
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The Link is bad? (Score:2)
I wanted to find out where larry ellisson was. He was No2 at some point of time , but I think the DotCom bust took care of that.
Anyway is'nt it funny that US Tech industry is going downhill for the workers whil the Industry is making money for the "bosses" (and the investors) ?
If they keep making money like this and the middleclass keeps getting smaller (less manufacturing, less IT , design is doing well though) at this rate is USA headed for a crisis? Since the ric
Re:The Link is bad? (Score:3, Informative)
I know it might trump your little party for the poor, helpless little people that make it all happen, but my salary has been steadily going up for the past 5 years, despite the tech bust. In 1999, the median salary for a US Systems Administrator was $64,271 [sage.org]. As of 2002, the average salary was $67,675 ($67,920 for males, and $64,946 for females) [sage.org].
So even through a massive recession, and firings and layoffs, the average salary is 5.296% higher than it was 3 years earlier. So, which industry is going downhill again?
Re:The Link is bad? (Score:1)
You're forgetting about inflation [westegg.com]. Your income has gone down in real terms. An income of $64,271 in 1999 is equivalent to a salary of $68,671.92 in 2002. Conversely, a salary of $67,675 in 2002 is equivalent to earning $63,337.97 in 1999.
You're name's "Matrix"?? You ARE stuck in 1999... (Score:2)
That's nice, but according to the US Bureau Of Labor Statistics' CPI Inflation Calculator [bls.gov], in order for your $64,271 salary to be keep pace with inflation, you'd have to be making $69,401. Since you made less than that, you've effectively gotten a paycut.
(Note, the calculator doesn't accept values greater than $9999.99. I assume this is because, to the c
Re:The Link is bad? (Score:2)
My last pay raise was 2%. Many of my fellow admin friends are unemployed. The others are clawing for new jobs because their work environment has gone to hell in a handbasket.
And don't forget. When you cease being a network admin and take a job at starbucks or helpdesk for city hall, you cease counting towards the "Admin" statistic.
Re:Is median really appropriate here? (Score:2)
Which do you think is the best representation?
Using the median is valid in some cases, like housing costs where a few extremely valuable properties can skew the average housing cost. But I highly doubt system administrators have such variance in their compensation... something to think about.
Re:The Link is bad? (Score:2)
Interesting, from those figures we get 91.8% of system administrators are male. Yeah, I knew the male/female ratio was high, but I didn't expect it to be that high.
What a retard. (Score:2)
And here you are, thanking them for the privilege.
Some people have vocation of masochists.