I believe it is possible in 2199 for an advanced computer to simulate an existence like SimCity.
However, if everyone is a digital projection controlled by a computer program, then how is it the humans inside the matrix are capable of independent thought? Why isn't it like "Big Brother" in George Orwell's 1984, where the Thought Police were always watching for crimethink? Even if the computers' super-advanced AI engine could simulate thoughts *for* the human, and trick them into thinking they came up wit
...But if no one was allowed to think a "wrong" thought...there would be no law enforcement, but no one would care because they wouldn't need to be taught about obeying the rules because no one would ever think about breaking them (The Pre-Crime Division would take care of that);)
Wasn't that the premise of the original matrix (the one built prior to the trilogy)? It was a paradise, but the problem was that no one believed it and so massive amounts of people would wake from it. Hence the reason why the second matrix was built (going back to Agent Smith's description in the first movie).
I always thought the matrix was more a playground for individual minds to play in. If you set up an environment that is engineered to look like our world, place the minds in the system with some initial parameters (e.g. you are a programmer looking for work and like potato chips and coffee, etc) and then let those objects loose in the system, things should flow fairly smoothly. The matrix was more like a drug to keep the minds of their batteries happy basically, and the reason they chose this section of our history is that it was "the height of our civilization". But even Neo has a choice by the architect in the second movie.
I would say that control came by limiting choices. This comes from the societal structure that is put in place, something which most people are more than happy to live within. The few that refused to accept that were shown a different reality (i.e. unplugged from the matrix). However, the one wrench that Matrix:Reloaded tossed into the mix was Neo's ability to sense the machines on the other side. This would indicate that the true architects of the matrix built a buffer zone in which those minds that didn't believe the first matrix would wake up into the second thus saving them as a power source for a while longer and ensuring that every once and awhile you could flush those who would attempt to destroy your creation. By controlling the resistance you have complete control as Orwell showed us in 1984.
people are more than happy to live within. The few that refused to accept that were shown a different reality (i.e. unplugged from the matrix). However, the one wrench that Matrix:Reloaded tossed into the mix was Neo's ability to sense the machines on the other side. This would indicate that the true architects of the matrix built a buffer zone in which those minds that didn't believe the first matrix would wake up into the second thus saving them as a power source for a while longer and ensuring that
But what if there is no "buffer zone". Why isn't it possible that Neo has become so attuned to the Matrix that he is actually able to hack in without the help of computers and an operator? Once inside the Matrix he could certainly stop the sentinels as he could find a way through the security systems in place in the matrix.
I think that Neo's connection to the matrix is shared by Bane as well. That is why they are both in commas, and that is why they both do seemingly impossible things (Bane setting off an
I agree with you. We've already seen impossible things happen in "the real world" like Trinity bringing Neo back to life with a kiss in the first movie, and Neo bringing Trinity back to life in the second movie, and Smith putting himself in a human body. Why can't another impossible thing, like Neo controlling machines happen in the real world?
The Matrix obviously takes much from kung fu and anime movies. In those kinds of movies, when you're well trained and "enlightened" you can do all kinds of crazy
Actually, the architect pretty much tells Neo what's up. When Neo makes his choice, then 'exits' the matrix...he only exits the matrix in the matrix...he's still in the matrix! That's why he still has his powers. The architect mentions this with his speech about having to create a matrix where everyone has the choice, even on a subconcious level. That all comes back to the whole red pill/blue pill thing: everyone gets the same choice neo gets! If they choose blue, they go back to the matrix as is, if they c
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Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:5, Insightful)
However, if everyone is a digital projection controlled by a computer program, then how is it the humans inside the matrix are capable of independent thought? Why isn't it like "Big Brother" in George Orwell's 1984, where the Thought Police were always watching for crimethink? Even if the computers' super-advanced AI engine could simulate thoughts *for* the human, and trick them into thinking they came up wit
Re:Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:5, Interesting)
Wasn't that the premise of the original matrix (the one built prior to the trilogy)? It was a paradise, but the problem was that no one believed it and so massive amounts of people would wake from it. Hence the reason why the second matrix was built (going back to Agent Smith's description in the first movie).
I always thought the matrix was more a playground for individual minds to play in. If you set up an environment that is engineered to look like our world, place the minds in the system with some initial parameters (e.g. you are a programmer looking for work and like potato chips and coffee, etc) and then let those objects loose in the system, things should flow fairly smoothly. The matrix was more like a drug to keep the minds of their batteries happy basically, and the reason they chose this section of our history is that it was "the height of our civilization". But even Neo has a choice by the architect in the second movie.
I would say that control came by limiting choices. This comes from the societal structure that is put in place, something which most people are more than happy to live within. The few that refused to accept that were shown a different reality (i.e. unplugged from the matrix). However, the one wrench that Matrix:Reloaded tossed into the mix was Neo's ability to sense the machines on the other side. This would indicate that the true architects of the matrix built a buffer zone in which those minds that didn't believe the first matrix would wake up into the second thus saving them as a power source for a while longer and ensuring that every once and awhile you could flush those who would attempt to destroy your creation. By controlling the resistance you have complete control as Orwell showed us in 1984.
Re:Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:2, Insightful)
No, silly.. (Score:2)
Re:Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:1)
I think that Neo's connection to the matrix is shared by Bane as well. That is why they are both in commas, and that is why they both do seemingly impossible things (Bane setting off an
Re:Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:2)
The Matrix obviously takes much from kung fu and anime movies. In those kinds of movies, when you're well trained and "enlightened" you can do all kinds of crazy
Re:Can the Matrix simulate independent thought? (Score:2)