Why would they need sophisticated software when there are so many denialist Libertarian types who seem to believe that dumping millions of years worth of sequestered CO2 into the atmosphere in the space of three centuries has absolutely no ill effects whatsoever? After all, these people show up on every single web forum anywhere to declare climatologists are frauds and AGW a global conspiracy of evil Communists out to destroy the economy...
While it is technically true that both sides have some non-zero amount of money, one side has enough of it to afford the worlds biggest PR firm along with 4 companies in the Fortune 10 (that would be 4 of the top 10 US companies by revenue...guess how many renewable energy companies are on that list). The other side does a lot of it's work with token research budgets. There is absolutely an underdog in this fight.
While it is technically true that both sides have some non-zero amount of money, one side has enough of it to afford the worlds biggest PR firm along with 4 companies in the Fortune 10 (that would be 4 of the top 10 US companies by revenue.
Oh, give me a frigging break. Yes, energy companies (not just oil) spent millions of dollars on research and campaigns contrary to global warming alarmism. Some estimates go as high as $40 and even $50 million.
But according to a recent GAO report [gao.gov], our own government spent $106 Billion dollars on "climate change" research, and that was by 2010, 4 years ago.
So this "oil companies are spending money" argument works against the climate alarmists. No matter how you cut it, the "other side" has outspent the
That's a silly question. Conspiracy theorists already think research they don't like is propaganda.
To a crackpot, there's no difference. They might be vaguely aware of NASA's multimillion dollar climate satellites, but they'll just say this is equivalent to the Heartland Institute's propaganda. After all, remember all those expensive scientific expeditions the Heartland Institute funds to place sensors in remote polar regions? Remember the fleet of thousands of robotic probes the Heartland Institute operate
It is against my policy to respond to the person who made this comment. Ever since I challenged his incorrect answer to a question of physics several years ago, he has been rude and insulting, jumping into conversations that did not involve him for the sole purpose of insulting and harassing me.
That is my statement. You may make your own judgment.
So you still haven't managed to write down a simple energy conservation equation [slashdot.org] around the heated source without wrongly "cancelling" terms? If you did, you'd quickly realize that electrical heating power depends on the cooler chamber wall temperature.
.. Ever since I challenged his incorrect answer to a question of physics several years ago, he has been rude and insulting..
Jane, you've been spreading civilization-paralyzing misinformation for years. In the process, you've repeatedly, baselessly and libelou
".. you were "hanging yourself", as the saying goes. Hoist by your own petard... You are busted... I'll be here watching and laughing all the way... It doesn't matter how you try to squirm and twist this. You have been owned. End of story... I repeat that you can twist and squirm all you want, but unless you can come up with a "khayman80 law" to replace the Stefan-Boltzmann law, this IS the answer, it is known, and it is unequivocal... Introduce all the complications, and prevarications and half-assed
".. If you ignore extrasolar energetic particles you're just being stupid... Based on other arguments with khayman80, to be honest I would not trust him to build a bridge over a creek, much less a spaceship. That's just the truth... Stop being a grandstanding asshole. I don't have to keep repeating my answers every time you demand them. That's called ASSHOLE behavior, asshole. You have already seen my calculations and my answers to all these questions. By bringing them up and demanding them AGAIN in a di
".. I don't get why you don't see that you're contradicting yourself. Or maybe you do, and you're just putting on some kind of show... you're just speaking gibberish, AND contradicting yourself again.. You're straw-manning again... You're just repeating the same BS straw-man arguments you made before... Why are you lying again.. That's stupid... That would be STUPID... I'm just sick and tired of your incessant lying about what went on before, and attempts to re-hash old arguments that you lost a long
".. None of the rest of your blathering matters. It is just constantly repeated hot air... That is just plain dishonest. Why do you feel you need to be dishonest about it? Is it because you can't win an honest argument?.. This is a COMPLETE distortion of what I was saying. You're just plain trolling again. In fact I don't think you've ever stopped. That's all you're doing here. You're deliberately distorting my comments to the point that I hardly recognize them... you dishonestly distorted the meaning o
"I'm amazed that you finally got so caught up in your own bullshit that you made a mistake quite THAT fundamental. Get stuffed, troll. For that and actually quite a pile of other reasons that have built up over time, I still don't believe you're a real physicist... Now you've gone so far off base, I can hardly do anything but laugh. This is such a hilarious pile of misinformation that besides just recording it for may later writeup, I'm throwing a copy in my joke pile. The "mainstream physicists" are the
"Ah, the muckraker troll rears his head again. Would you all like to see his dumbass failure at trying to school me in thermodynamics? All you have to do is follow his comments back a ways. A long ways.. because he kept making the same nonsense arguments, over, and over, and over again, even after he had been shown how wrong they were. I will invite everyone to my complete writeup (which, unlike his comments, won't take others out of context or distort their statements.. I promise a true accounting). This
Are they hiring you losers while still in high school these days? The bar for paid oil trolls sure is a low one--any stupid thing to prevent the discussion of the oil cartel's impunity. Do the world a favor and kill yourself.
Suggestions that people kill themselves are unproductive.
No, "unproductive" would be several paragraphs of useless text to fill screen space, as you've done. Save our collective unconscious from your fevered ego--kill yourself. your net sum contribution to society is at a negative.
No, seriously. Suggestions that people kill themselves are unproductive. Exactly what did I write to make you hate me so much that you've repeatedly told me to kill myself?
Your response is akin to someone who has just spent the last hour rolling in his own shit and flinging it at passers-by, standing up all at once and asking the surrounding crowd what's wrong. You're seriously so bad at this. Even your employer would be better off if you killed yourself.
Again, what did I write to make you hate me so much that you've suggested I kill myself three times?
Maybe you're confusing me with somebody else? For instance:
Are they hiring you losers while still in high school these days? The bar for paid oil trolls sure is a low one--any stupid thing to prevent the discussion of the oil cartel's impunity. Do the world a favor and kill yourself.
What did I write to make you accuse me of being a paid oil troll?
"Here comes Mr. Bill's dog."
-- Narrator, Saturday Night Live
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Why would they need sophisticated software when there are so many denialist Libertarian types who seem to believe that dumping millions of years worth of sequestered CO2 into the atmosphere in the space of three centuries has absolutely no ill effects whatsoever? After all, these people show up on every single web forum anywhere to declare climatologists are frauds and AGW a global conspiracy of evil Communists out to destroy the economy...
Oh wait
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Who would have thought these bots could get mod points?
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Don't kid yourself that it's big evil vs underdogs, there is money on BOTH sides of the argument.
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While it is technically true that both sides have some non-zero amount of money, one side has enough of it to afford the worlds biggest PR firm along with 4 companies in the Fortune 10 (that would be 4 of the top 10 US companies by revenue.
Oh, give me a frigging break. Yes, energy companies (not just oil) spent millions of dollars on research and campaigns contrary to global warming alarmism. Some estimates go as high as $40 and even $50 million.
But according to a recent GAO report [gao.gov], our own government spent $106 Billion dollars on "climate change" research, and that was by 2010, 4 years ago.
So this "oil companies are spending money" argument works against the climate alarmists. No matter how you cut it, the "other side" has outspent the
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That's a silly question. Conspiracy theorists already think research they don't like is propaganda.
To a crackpot, there's no difference. They might be vaguely aware of NASA's multimillion dollar climate satellites, but they'll just say this is equivalent to the Heartland Institute's propaganda. After all, remember all those expensive scientific expeditions the Heartland Institute funds to place sensors in remote polar regions? Remember the fleet of thousands of robotic probes the Heartland Institute operate
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Dear readers:
It is against my policy to respond to the person who made this comment. Ever since I challenged his incorrect answer to a question of physics several years ago, he has been rude and insulting, jumping into conversations that did not involve him for the sole purpose of insulting and harassing me.
That is my statement. You may make your own judgment.
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So you still haven't managed to write down a simple energy conservation equation [slashdot.org] around the heated source without wrongly "cancelling" terms? If you did, you'd quickly realize that electrical heating power depends on the cooler chamber wall temperature.
Jane, you've been spreading civilization-paralyzing misinformation for years. In the process, you've repeatedly, baselessly and libelou
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".. you were "hanging yourself", as the saying goes. Hoist by your own petard. .. You are busted. .. I'll be here watching and laughing all the way. .. It doesn't matter how you try to squirm and twist this. You have been owned. End of story. .. I repeat that you can twist and squirm all you want, but unless you can come up with a "khayman80 law" to replace the Stefan-Boltzmann law, this IS the answer, it is known, and it is unequivocal. .. Introduce all the complications, and prevarications and half-assed
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".. If you ignore extrasolar energetic particles you're just being stupid. .. Based on other arguments with khayman80, to be honest I would not trust him to build a bridge over a creek, much less a spaceship. That's just the truth. .. Stop being a grandstanding asshole. I don't have to keep repeating my answers every time you demand them. That's called ASSHOLE behavior, asshole. You have already seen my calculations and my answers to all these questions. By bringing them up and demanding them AGAIN in a di
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".. I don't get why you don't see that you're contradicting yourself. Or maybe you do, and you're just putting on some kind of show. .. you're just speaking gibberish, AND contradicting yourself again .. You're straw-manning again. .. You're just repeating the same BS straw-man arguments you made before. .. Why are you lying again.. That's stupid. .. That would be STUPID. .. I'm just sick and tired of your incessant lying about what went on before, and attempts to re-hash old arguments that you lost a long
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".. None of the rest of your blathering matters. It is just constantly repeated hot air. .. That is just plain dishonest. Why do you feel you need to be dishonest about it? Is it because you can't win an honest argument? .. This is a COMPLETE distortion of what I was saying. You're just plain trolling again. In fact I don't think you've ever stopped. That's all you're doing here. You're deliberately distorting my comments to the point that I hardly recognize them. .. you dishonestly distorted the meaning o
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"I'm amazed that you finally got so caught up in your own bullshit that you made a mistake quite THAT fundamental. Get stuffed, troll. For that and actually quite a pile of other reasons that have built up over time, I still don't believe you're a real physicist. .. Now you've gone so far off base, I can hardly do anything but laugh. This is such a hilarious pile of misinformation that besides just recording it for may later writeup, I'm throwing a copy in my joke pile. The "mainstream physicists" are the
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"Ah, the muckraker troll rears his head again. Would you all like to see his dumbass failure at trying to school me in thermodynamics? All you have to do is follow his comments back a ways. A long ways.. because he kept making the same nonsense arguments, over, and over, and over again, even after he had been shown how wrong they were. I will invite everyone to my complete writeup (which, unlike his comments, won't take others out of context or distort their statements.. I promise a true accounting). This
Can't troll worth a shit, so wall of text? (Score:1)
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Suggestions that people kill themselves are unproductive.
No, "unproductive" would be several paragraphs of useless text to fill screen space, as you've done. Save our collective unconscious from your fevered ego--kill yourself. your net sum contribution to society is at a negative.
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Again, what did I write to make you hate me so much that you've suggested I kill myself three times?
Maybe you're confusing me with somebody else? For instance:
What did I write to make you accuse me of being a paid oil troll?