Karl Marx has already explained exactly where money is going to go... into the ash-heap of history.
We're already starting to see it. How much anger are you seeing over corporatism and capitalism in general? Everyone is fed up: THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK. Everyone knows it, but so many people are afraid to face it. They're afraid of what might replace it. "Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't".
But there is a better way! Do your research. Look at some of the alternative political parties.
The future is a moneyless society where everyone shares everything equally. We all do the jobs that we are best at, not the ones that you HAVE to do to "make a living". Everyone contributes to the public trust, and everyone shares in the public trust. No money needed!
There are so many people afraid right now, but I see that as a sign of hope. Finally everyone is seeing the absolute black soul of capitalism and are searching for something better. Soon we will be tearing down the walls of corporations, and the whole idea of "ownership" in general. Just like music and software shouldn't be owned, neither should physical resources, either. Everything should be publically owned. And no ownership means no need for money.
All of this was predicted over a hundred years ago. Read about it and learn.
Snicker... Marxists/communists/etc. are the last people on earth who should be telling people that their "system doesn't work". They can't even understand human nature.
The main thing people don't understand about "human nature" is that there's no such thing as human nature.
Humans have evolved to be flexible; in fact, human bodies and brains evolved in concert with human societies. That's why people can adapt to live in a highly socialist system, or a highly capitalist one, or any of a million other alternatives.
What you seem to be calling human nature is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Create an economic system that depends entirely on the pursuit of self-interest, and people will behave in self-interested ways. Create one where people work together, and they'll work together. Pretty obvious really.
Socialist systems have all sorts of problems, but exploitation by the selfish or lazy rather notably isn't one of them, precisely because that sort of behaviour isn't fostered. Capitalist systems have a whole other set of problems, many of which are related to selfish behaviour, because that's the basis of the whole system.
There's ample room for criticism of any system, but to think you can live immersed in one world and be able to reasonably comment on the people and workings in another is absurd. Go live in Sweden for a few years and your point of view might be worth listening to. You'll certainly have a better conception of "human nature".
Have to agree mostly but disagree that socialism does not experience problems with greed. Its more often from socialist governments whereas in US its from corporations AND the government.
Greed is not a problem for a corporation, since they are governed by laws that channel that greed into productive behavior. A greedy govt. is a problem, however, since they have the option of using force to get whatever they want. A socialist govt. is in charge of deciding who needs what, and how much of anything anyone should get. This is way too much power for a group to have that relies on force to dictate their terms. Capitalsim under a govt. that protects the rights of individuals is a better system since trade allows productive individuals the opportunity to obtain the things they want, rather than depending who they know in the govt. to get these things.
People need to work to live. Food, clothing and shelter don't appear out of thin air. This basic tenet dictates human nature. Even in modern society, the cost of these essential itens still accounts for the majority of the time spent by the average worker. Most people don't enjoy work, and would prefer to work less if they could do so and earn the same wage. Therefore, if a person does not get compensated for the worth of his work, but instead is given what society thinks he NEEDS, his incentive to do worthwhile work is diminished. Productivity suffers, and even the most basic necessities become scarce. In summary, although people have free will, they are bound necessities in order to survive. Since a person is an individual, he is governed by self-interest. You cannot remove that. IF he feels his work isn't benefitting him personally, he will invest his effort in other things more fulfilling for himself, which will not necessarily be productive to the society that he's being charged with supporting. Read Ayn Rand forn a more thorough, eloquent arguement.
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(one again putting on my flame-retardant suit)
Karl Marx has already explained exactly where money is going to go... into the ash-heap of history.
We're already starting to see it. How much anger are you seeing over corporatism and capitalism in general? Everyone is fed up: THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK. Everyone knows it, but so many people are afraid to face it. They're afraid of what might replace it. "Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't".
But there is a better way! Do your research. Look at some of the alternative political parties.
The future is a moneyless society where everyone shares everything equally. We all do the jobs that we are best at, not the ones that you HAVE to do to "make a living". Everyone contributes to the public trust, and everyone shares in the public trust. No money needed!
There are so many people afraid right now, but I see that as a sign of hope. Finally everyone is seeing the absolute black soul of capitalism and are searching for something better. Soon we will be tearing down the walls of corporations, and the whole idea of "ownership" in general. Just like music and software shouldn't be owned, neither should physical resources, either. Everything should be publically owned. And no ownership means no need for money.
All of this was predicted over a hundred years ago. Read about it and learn.
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Humans have evolved to be flexible; in fact, human bodies and brains evolved in concert with human societies. That's why people can adapt to live in a highly socialist system, or a highly capitalist one, or any of a million other alternatives.
What you seem to be calling human nature is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Create an economic system that depends entirely on the pursuit of self-interest, and people will behave in self-interested ways. Create one where people work together, and they'll work together. Pretty obvious really.
Socialist systems have all sorts of problems, but exploitation by the selfish or lazy rather notably isn't one of them, precisely because that sort of behaviour isn't fostered. Capitalist systems have a whole other set of problems, many of which are related to selfish behaviour, because that's the basis of the whole system.
There's ample room for criticism of any system, but to think you can live immersed in one world and be able to reasonably comment on the people and workings in another is absurd. Go live in Sweden for a few years and your point of view might be worth listening to. You'll certainly have a better conception of "human nature".
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