I've heard the arguments for 'cashless societies' before.. mostly they circle around the real argument and come at it from the 'save the trees from being cut down for paper' or 'avoid losing your money!' aspect.. but the REAL issue here is whether people should have the right, and the ability (since those two don't always go together!) to conduct exchanges of value without said exchanges being recorded/observed/surveilled by the government or other outside parties. Even so-called 'digital cash' plans are not 'true' cash in that respect - many of such plans I've seen include 'fingerprinting' or 'user identification' which make them more like debit cards for all intents and purposes - except that, unlike a debit card, they also have the added disadvantage of not having corroboration of their value elsewhere, so if you lose it, you're still screwed (unless the person finding it is nice enough to check the user ID and return it to you). They totally skip over the privacy and anonymity of true 'cash'. And don't get started on how digital cash with 'user fingerprinting' will be safer than good old dumb folding money (or, horrors, gold) - if you don't have a user identification system check every time a transaction is completed, then there will be no way to check whether 'stolen' money is being used in a purchase, and thus no way to get your stolen money back.. so, if you want privacy, you can't really have security, and vice versa.
Ah, but then of course there are the ideas like e-gold, which combine privacy (ie, encryption and anonymous digital IDs) with security (ie, no one but that user can use the money).. like a Swiss bank account.. except, of course, the gov's are doing all they can to shut them down, under the guise of 'preventing terrorism' (but I think their real complaint is 'we can't get at the money for taxes')..
I agree. We should be very careful how much power we allow governments to have over us. Imagine the power of controlling a cashless society where every purchase is tracked and stored in a database. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to realize that this should be avoided for the same reason we try to keep governments from maintaining a list of every firearm every person owns (which has been abused countless times by governments).
Even if you're not worried about increased government control/surveillance, worry about the irresistable lure of banks and/or governments to tax/charge every transaction. At first it would be free, but gradually increased (taxes/service fees always go up so easily, but even the smallest decreases are very hard fought).
Anyways, I'm disappointed from the/. posts I've seen on this subject so far. Usually, posters are leery of ideas that would infringe on privacy/freedoms, but for some reason are a little too naive on this issue.
*chuckles*.. well, of course, most/. posters have dual allegiances: free will and technology. When a technology comes along that appears to have a lot of useful potential - but which can be used to deprive people of their rights - they have trouble deciding which to support. Often the approach is simply "let the technology develop and deal with problems as they occur" - however, it doesn't take a genius to see that the problems will be *built in* - unless we make the topic of anonymous electronic cash a public issue, it's more than likely that e-cash will be as easy to track as credit cards are today.
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'Cashless society'?.. more like 'privacy-less' (Score:1)
Ah, but then of course there are the ideas like e-gold, which combine privacy (ie, encryption and anonymous digital IDs) with security (ie, no one but that user can use the money).. like a Swiss bank account.. except, of course, the gov's are doing all they can to shut them down, under the guise of 'preventing terrorism' (but I think their real complaint is 'we can't get at the money for taxes')..
Re:'Cashless society'?.. more like 'privacy-less' (Score:1)
Re:'Cashless society'?.. more like 'privacy-less' (Score:1)