I assume you meant "kernel," but no: my intent was to provide the homophone "colonel" since it is a military rank and the accepted pronunciations of the two words are pretty much identical.
I assume you meant "kernel," but no: my intent was to provide the homophone "colonel" since it is a military rank and the accepted pronunciations of the two words are pretty much identical.
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. Lone Star: What does that make us? Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.
"General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."
He can be seen here [starwars.com] engaged in heated battle with Earthworm Jim.
"General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."
One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture,
One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture, what do we have?
A droid, in the shape and likliness of a human, holding two lightsabers. I mean honestly!
Oops! You didn't study the picture closely enough. Gen. Grievous is clearly wielding not two but THREE lightsabers. Let's all raise our voices to congratulate Mr. Lucas for striking off in this radical new direction.
I was referring to what is actually going to be in the movie, not the concept art.
Looks like Lucas wanted an interesting-looking character, saw the concept and stripped it of both interest and innovation.
Well because he's not really a droid. He's more of a cyborg I guess. And not knowing any spoilers I'd be willing to bet he's a fallen Jedi or maybe even Darth Sidious' mentor who was crippled a la vader and brought back with cybernetics to still fight.
Your retort is more insightful than you know...the Clone Wars shorts for Cartoon Network were directed by none other than PPG creator Genndy Tartakovski. Grievous is in it. He totally wails on some Jedi in a 3-on-1 battle. It's actually good stuff but I'm waiting to get the whole 20 5-minute episodes run together as one.
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- Will be in a midnight line out of habit with tempered optimism in my heart...
You're sort of close, but PPG wasn't created by Genndy Tartakovski, it was created by Craig McCracken [tvtome.com]. Genndy created Dexter's Laboratory [tvtome.com], which McCracken also worked on however. Personally, I find that Grievous is more closely related to Samurai Jack [tvtome.com] anyway, another Tartakovski show.
The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended
It's interesting that Peter Jackson took the opposite approach with LotR, even down to slapping lumps of clay onto model of the Orc Captian(?) in RotK.
Hey, thanks a bunch, smart-arse! I happened to be chewing a mouthful of peanuts when I read that. Now my monitor's gonna need a thorough cleaning tomorrow, after the hang-over wears off! (I didn't even need to hit the link.) Nurse! Nurse!...
General Grievous is the "ultimate" battle droid. The pic you posted was from the last episode of the Clone Wars cartoon on Cartoon network...just before Grievous wipes out Ki-a-Munid...jedi master.
From Star Wars books you know Lord Vader keeps droid lighsaber fighers for "practice"...several models newer than Grievous. [see the opening of Shadows of the Empire...happens to be lucasfilm cannon:(] Also, from the news articles on SW the intent of Lord Vader is to one-up Grievous by being both robot and J
Why 'General Grievous?'? Because General Electric was already taken!
It's actually because it's as much as he deserved. He isn't that dangerous, so they can't call him "General Deadly" or something. They call him "General Grievous" because he just kind of makes you...sad.
Death War Famine Plague Grievous Bodily Harm Cruelty To Animals Things Not Working Properly Even After You've Given Them A Good Thumping but secretly No Alcohol Lager and, last but not least... Really Cool People
So, we have General Grievous....
Will we see Captain Cruelty? Maybe Lt. Things (alias Lt. Lager)?
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interrèd with their bones.
So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious.
If it were so, it was a Grievous fault,
And grievously hath Caesar answered it.
-- Wm. Shakespeare, Julius Caesar [gutenberg.org], Act III, Scene ii.
Given that this is a story of the fall of the Republic and the Rise of the Empire, Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium.
Come on, everyone-- ripping off Shakespeare is a noble literary tradition !
Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium
I must haved ducked... English geeks are the worst kind of geeks.
Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium
I must haved ducked...
Perhaps not. "Some fellows need to be hit with a brick. Some fellows you need to hit with a big brick." Martya Koudekelda in Lois McMaster Bujold's "Memory" [amazon.com].
English geeks are the worst kind of geeks.
"All I know is what I read in science fiction." It might count for less in that I remember the speech mainly from Sparky's bathtub scene in John Varley's "The Golden Globe." [amazon.com] Now
Um, you are joking right? Since someone modded this 'insightful', it's hard to tell.
Why is 'grievous' capitalized in your quote? It's not a name, it's an adjective, 'grievous' means 'regretful'.
A single common (albeit not as common in modern english) word hardly qualifies as a 'reference' by any stretch of the imagination. And hardly as an unsubtle one.
But if we were to assume it is a reference to the Bard, what makes you think it's a reference to Julius Ceasar?
Half. I think it may well be intended to be an allusion by Lucas; I don't think it's intended to be taken as an overly profound one. Ask me again after the movie comes out, when evidence will exist as to whether it's more than a literary Rorschach blot.
Why is 'grievous' capitalized in your quote?
Emphasis, nothing more. Slashdot is full of folk who need a big brick [slashdot.org]. =)
It's a quite common word.
Moderately common in the Bard's work, yes-- poetic forms like iambic pentameter te
We have Darth Tyrenus, Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, General Grievous... what's next, Darth Meanie? Darth Badguy? I'm still convinced that Count Dooku is named as such just because it was as close to 'Count Poopie' that Lucas could get without being TOO obvious.
Wow, another movie, another villain. Notice how the first Star Wars movies actually had a consistent cast? Yes, Moff Tarkin buys the farm in the first movie, but the rest of the baddies are in it from the start - Vader, Palpatine, and Jabba.
Meanwhile, Palpatine swaps out a new flunky we've never heard of before each movie who is the villain for the flick.
As stupid as his name was (and as confusing as his role was), I was hoping Dooku would return as the villain in Ep3, just to avoid the "look, here's a
What's more, if you're going to have three seperate villans, the sensible order to have them in is the robot first, then the sinister count who is behind the robot, and then finally an actual honest-to-goodness Dark Lord of the Sith, leaving a vacancy for Annie when the heros finally beat him.
Having a padawan take out a Dark Lord at the beginning doesn't really build the Sith up that much.
I think you might be focusing on the wrong continuing cast. It's not necessarily the villains who are or should be continuous.
All six movies do have a continuous cast: Vader (Anakin), the Emperor, Yoda and Obi Wan. The rest of the characters are really just a supporting cast for the main character.
And the main character isn't always who you'd think it is. All 6 movies are really a biography of Vader, just told from different and varying points of view. Quite interesting idea, actually.
You forget, the movies also have threepio and artoo. Really, the original trilogy is told as much from their perspective as anyone else's. Its sad that Lucas lost that somewhat in the prequels, turning them into bizarre sideplots more than the audience's eyes.
You'll laugh, but in portughese, Count Dooku sounds like "Count Of Asshole".
Believe it or not, they had to rename him to Count Dookan (in the subtitles) for the Brazillian audience.
I know he sounds wierd, but if you have seen the last of the 20 cartoon episodes aired on Cartoon Network, he is pretty cool and kicks some serious butt.:D
I mean what's going to come in the next movies, some pilot named Skywalker, a hottie named Oola, fat guy named Porkins, a race of Squids called Calamari, a musician named Droopy McCool, some three eyed guy named Ree-Yees.
Right, because that's so much more arch than, say, a villain named "Darth Vader" (dark-death-invader; "Vader" is also a form of "father"), a mercenary outsider named "Solo," or heroic pilots named "Skywalker"...
There may well be all sorts of things wrong with Revenge of the Sith, but the name "General Grievous" hardly qualifies as one of them, I think; it really is pretty much in keeping with long-established Star Wars traditions.
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Um. Huh. I guess this thread has been exhausted now hasn't it?
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I like your sig... thats good stuff!
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Yes, and his brother is Private Parts. He has a sister as well, Major Payne.
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Or his nephew Colon Panic, sponsored in the 2004 Olympics by Taco Bell.
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He's still mad that you bit his finger.
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With all the goatse posts it's no wonder.
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But who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk ?
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Lone Star: What does that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.
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And his thugs Sergent Bodily and Captain Harm.
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"General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."
He can be seen here [starwars.com] engaged in heated battle with Earthworm Jim.
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One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture,
Wrong! (Score:5, Funny)
A droid, in the shape and likliness of a human, holding two lightsabers. I mean honestly!
Oops! You didn't study the picture closely enough. Gen. Grievous is clearly wielding not two but THREE lightsabers. Let's all raise our voices to congratulate Mr. Lucas for striking off in this radical new direction.
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Who will be killed off by the second reel.
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GTRacer
- Will be in a midnight line out of habit with tempered optimism in my heart...
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It's interesting that Peter Jackson took the opposite approach with LotR, even down to slapping lumps of clay onto model of the Orc Captian(?) in RotK.
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From Star Wars books you know Lord Vader keeps droid lighsaber fighers for "practice"...several models newer than Grievous. [see the opening of Shadows of the Empire...happens to be lucasfilm cannon:(] Also, from the news articles on SW the intent of Lord Vader is to one-up Grievous by being both robot and J
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*sigh*
Why 'General Grievous?'? Because General Electric was already taken!
rimshot
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It's actually because it's as much as he deserved. He isn't that dangerous, so they can't call him "General Deadly" or something. They call him "General Grievous" because he just kind of makes you...sad.
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I'll still see it though. *double sigh*
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Death
War
Famine
Plague
Grievous Bodily Harm
Cruelty To Animals
Things Not Working Properly Even After You've Given Them A Good Thumping but secretly No Alcohol Lager
and, last but not least
Really Cool People
So, we have General Grievous....
Will we see Captain Cruelty? Maybe Lt. Things (alias Lt. Lager)?
I would think the reference is blindingly obvious. (Score:4, Insightful)
Given that this is a story of the fall of the Republic and the Rise of the Empire, Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium.
Come on, everyone-- ripping off Shakespeare is a noble literary tradition !
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I must haved ducked... English geeks are the worst kind of geeks.
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I must haved ducked...
Perhaps not. "Some fellows need to be hit with a brick. Some fellows you need to hit with a big brick." Martya Koudekelda in Lois McMaster Bujold's "Memory" [amazon.com].
English geeks are the worst kind of geeks.
"All I know is what I read in science fiction." It might count for less in that I remember the speech mainly from Sparky's bathtub scene in John Varley's "The Golden Globe." [amazon.com] Now
Joking, right? (Score:2)
Why is 'grievous' capitalized in your quote? It's not a name, it's an adjective, 'grievous' means 'regretful'.
A single common (albeit not as common in modern english) word hardly qualifies as a 'reference' by any stretch of the imagination. And hardly as an unsubtle one.
But if we were to assume it is a reference to the Bard, what makes you think it's a reference to Julius Ceasar?
It could be "Richard II": Old John of Gaun
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Half. I think it may well be intended to be an allusion by Lucas; I don't think it's intended to be taken as an overly profound one. Ask me again after the movie comes out, when evidence will exist as to whether it's more than a literary Rorschach blot.
Why is 'grievous' capitalized in your quote?
Emphasis, nothing more. Slashdot is full of folk who need a big brick [slashdot.org]. =)
It's a quite common word.
Moderately common in the Bard's work, yes-- poetic forms like iambic pentameter te
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I'm still convinced that Count Dooku is named as such just because it was as close to 'Count Poopie' that Lucas could get without being TOO obvious.
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Moll.
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Meanwhile, Palpatine swaps out a new flunky we've never heard of before each movie who is the villain for the flick.
As stupid as his name was (and as confusing as his role was), I was hoping Dooku would return as the villain in Ep3, just to avoid the "look, here's a
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Having a padawan take out a Dark Lord at the beginning doesn't really build the Sith up that much.
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I think you might be focusing on the wrong continuing cast. It's not necessarily the villains who are or should be continuous.
All six movies do have a continuous cast: Vader (Anakin), the Emperor, Yoda and Obi Wan. The rest of the characters are really just a supporting cast for the main character.
And the main character isn't always who you'd think it is. All 6 movies are really a biography of Vader, just told from different and varying points of view. Quite interesting idea, actually.
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Btw... Does anyone else hear the name "Count Dooku" and think "Care Bears"?
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Believe it or not, they had to rename him to Count Dookan (in the subtitles) for the Brazillian audience.
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There may well be all sorts of things wrong with Revenge of the Sith, but the name "General Grievous" hardly qualifies as one of them, I think; it really is pretty much in keeping with long-established Star Wars traditions.