IE Sends Cake to Firefox 2 Team 362
GDI Lord writes "The Microsoft Internet Explorer Team sent the Firefox team a cake for the release of Firefox 2!
"P.S.: No, it was not poisoned" " That they know of anyway.
He has not acquired a fortune; the fortune has acquired him. -- Bion
The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:5, Funny)
Only to include a file in it for the developers at Redmond.
But the question is... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:But the question is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:4, Funny)
*g*
Re:The firefox team was gonna send a cake too... (Score:5, Funny)
itsatrap (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:itsatrap (Score:5, Funny)
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That they know of anyway. (Score:5, Funny)
Or something like that. It's early still.
The cake is a lie!!!!! (Score:3, Funny)
The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
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Yeah, I was really glad when Microsoft's hit man got busted [nwsource.com] and all those shootings came to an end.
Re:The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
> of it at everyone and screaming "I'll f***** destroy You!"
Re:EULA under the cake (Score:4, Funny)
By consuming this cake, you agree to the following terms in the cake end user license agreement (EULA)...
Re:The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Browser Wars (Score:5, Funny)
Would that make it a "civil" war?
What I want to know is... (Score:4, Funny)
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Probably they sent it as thanks because they could code something other then security holes/fixes.
Something like they did to Netscape? (Score:5, Interesting)
Talk about a much-improved quote.. (Score:2, Informative)
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Oh wait...
Pie? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Pie? (Score:5, Funny)
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An improvement from the IE/Netscape days (Score:4, Interesting)
You have to admit (Score:5, Insightful)
I have to say, often times we're prone to think that large organizations such as Microsoft are just a big, faceless entity. As a whole, this may or may not be true, but either way, they're only made up of people. The IE team only wants to ship the best software possible given their resources, as does Mozilla.
The best to both teams -- let the competition continue!
Re:You have to admit (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:You have to admit (Score:5, Interesting)
Good points, but look at it this way: the IE folks owe everything to Firefox. Really. The fact that their offices no longer smell of mothballs is a direct consequence of Firefox's rise. Microsoft was able to keep an open and evolving cross-platform development platform at bay (i.e., the web), but the fact that their strategic product wasn't a profitable product kept development in the dark ages until Firefox came along. IE will always improve (and indeed, will only improve) if it has this competition. As one of the co-creators of Firefox said recently:
IE people should be very glad there's a Firefox, and pray it has staying power. And should keep sending cakes to the Mozillers.
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Re:You have to admit (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem with Microsoft is not bad coders. I'm sure they have some, but I bet the percentage is no different from other companies. The problem is when upper management starts making coding decisions based on shareholders' concerns, or when marketing starts making standards decisions and passing them down to coders. One of the friends at MS said that pretty much all the coders he knows would much rather be working with accepted standards instead of hackneyed MS pseudo-standards.
Anyhow, I agree completely that this was a classy move. I would still have some marketing intern taste it before the whole team digs in (lest today be remembered as the day Firefox development froze forever at 2.0!), but I think most in-the-trenches coders would be happy to pat a rival on the back for something cool.
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It's the managers and designers who are deciding what things will look like and how functionality will work. The managers for Word will say "We need to have this integrated into I
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Re:You have to admit (Score:5, Insightful)
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The joys of Microsoft and the campaign to control all of computing.
The link (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The link (Score:4, Informative)
Yum, Cake (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yum, Cake (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Yum, Cake (Score:4, Funny)
The FireFox team decided to return the favor and make them a cake to congratulate them on their recent release of Internet Explorer 7. It is expected to be completed in about four years and have some of the same details in the icing that Opera's cake had already.
Re:Yum, Cake (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yum, Cake (Score:4, Funny)
The cake itself was pretty acid too.
Of course it wasn't poisoned (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Of course it wasn't poisoned (Score:5, Funny)
New cake; old ingredients (Score:5, Funny)
It takes time.. Give it another year or two (Score:5, Funny)
Cake, or a free trip to Australia? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Cake, or a free trip to Australia? (Score:5, Funny)
And she said... (Score:2, Funny)
Happy to have a job again! (Score:5, Insightful)
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I would do the same (Score:2, Interesting)
giving back (Score:5, Funny)
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*ducks*
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I was hoping Firefox 2.0 would bring change. (Score:2, Interesting)
That's not what I've found. The memory consumption issues of Firefox 1.5.x have still not been dealt with. The Firefox process I'm using right now has been running since yesterday afternoon. Using the Task Manager, I can see that Firefox is taking up 593 MB of RAM. I've heard that this ca
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I'm a big fat Firefox fanboy, and yes, it's still a memory hog. Now I do have extensions installed, and it's not so bad if I shut off Firefox occasionally, but then again, I find that shutting down my machine occasionally is good for my Windows box anyway. (Due to space issues, my Linux box is currently in the closet so haven't tested there yet.)
I loaded up IE 7 on this machine, checked out some sites that had been kludged to work in IE 6 and Firefox and Opera, etc. (standards, followed by kludge) and watc
Re:I was hoping Firefox 2.0 would bring change. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm always intrigued by these comments. There's barely a time at work when a Firefox window isn't open in the background, I have numerous extensions installed, and having over two dozen tabs open is not particularly unusual for me; however, Firefox has never even come close to using up that much RAM on any machine I've worked on, even when I have that amount of memory to spare. Even the huge pages the new Slashdot comment system produces doesn't raise my RAM usage very far over the 100M mark, and the majority of that is likely caching.
I wonder why Firefox seems to use up so much memory for some people, whilst others get away with relatively little. Did you have any plugins installed that might have been the cause of this problem?
Re:Leaky extensions (Score:3, Informative)
Thanks for the ideas (Score:2)
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What they didn't tell you... (Score:4, Funny)
Icing on the cake... (Score:5, Funny)
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"...to Opera."
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Secret Ingredients (Score:2, Funny)
However, it did contain the pubes of every person on the IE team. The Firefox team plans on retaliating by baking a cake using the dismembered appendages of family members of the IE team. You can thank South Park for that grisly idea.
Give Me A Break... (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe It's Just a Gift? (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe while us users squabble in our own browser war, the development teams actually don't care all that much. Maybe they truly are just glad of how everyone is advancing (as opposed to just trying to one-up each other). I'm not saying that everyone in both companies feel that way, but instead of reading stuff into this surprise present, maybe it was just a good gesture.
Overheard on IRC (Score:4, Funny)
Need more details (Score:5, Funny)
Was there a nice #FF0000 cherry on the top?
Re:Need more details (Score:5, Funny)
Satan's birthday party (Score:2, Funny)
To be a bit cryptic... (Score:2)
Microsoft lives out an episode of The Simpsons (Score:5, Funny)
Montgomery C. Gates: Look at them stuffing their faces, never knowing they're getting closer to the poisoned part of the cake... There IS poison in the cake, right?
Smithers Balmer: Uh, no sir, our lawyers said that's considered murder.
Montgomery C. Gates: Damn their oily hides!
Big Black E? (Score:5, Funny)
As for the ex-lax, bugs, pubes in the cake of course none of that is true. Those things would only be possible if someone at Microsoft actually made the cake, and that's not how MS does things. They knew they couldn't make a good cake so they just went out and bought a cake from someone who already knew how to make one and then stuck their logo on it and called it theirs.
And being the nerds they are... (Score:5, Funny)
And being the nerds they are, it was baked into the shape of Counselor Troi [ytmnd.com]. The Firefox nerds, now trendy Galactica fans, merely laughed at the nerds who were so out of it as to still love "Star Trek".
Non-slashdotted picture (Score:5, Informative)
A cake? (Score:5, Funny)
Shouldn't it have been cookies?
Ok, maybe they were afraid they don't accept cookies.
Not poisoned??? (Score:2)
Sounds like an hold highschool trick. (Score:2)
I recall stories of cheerleaders from my highschool making brownies with laxative mixed in and sending them to the cheerleaders of a rival school. Maybe this is a similar gesture? I would hope, at least, the cake was magical [wikipedia.org].
It's only right. . . (Score:3, Insightful)
Firefox team sends IE a cake: (Score:3, Funny)
CAKE OR DEATH! (Score:3, Funny)
We know the how the Firefox team answered that question.
When Microsoft runs out of cake, the Opera team will have to politely ask for the chicken.
Microsoft Strikes Again (Score:3, Insightful)
With Firefox just releasing their new version, it has eclipsed the launch of IE7. By sending a cake, which is sure to getting bloggers and slashdot to post, Microsoft directs the attention back on them. Also, it's good publicity. But we all know, no publicity is bad publicity.
SLASHDOTTERS YOU TOOK THE BAIT!
Perhaps this is common. (Score:5, Insightful)
I know that Terminix (a client of my company) congratulated Orkin (the evil competitor) on one of their recent anniversaries. It's a way of saying "We know what you're up against, and we know it kinda sucks. Hang in there."
My wife and I watched an episode of Dharma & Greg last night (TiVo, don't know the air date) where they're entering a dancing competition. Dharma's parents were against it claiming competition makes people mean and greedy. I see that a lot in society, and it doesn't have to be that way. Competition is to make us better individuals. Without competition we'd never progress to the next level. And because of that we should thank our competitors for putting up a good measure of excellence.
Even in sports like track and cross country where you can effectively compete against yourself, where's the push to keep getting a faster mile time, higher polevault, or longer long jump if you have nothing to compare it against? At the end of high school track meets I remember walking around and shaking the hands of everyone I competed with. If it weren't for them I wouldn't have been "in the top three" regularly. I'd have just been a dude running crappy lap times on the weekend.
Here's to competition! The evolver of our modern society. Thank your competitors, for they are what bring us a better life.
If I were the FF Team... (Score:5, Funny)
Class (Score:3, Interesting)
It's how the rest of the world works. Healthy businesses acknowledge competition and inspiration. Their workers even go out for drinks with rivals now and again. $giantcorporateentity != $employee and all that.
I'm not exactly heralding the coming of a kinder, gentler MS that consistently behaves like a grownup, but baby steps like this are the beginnings of a change in corporate culture and should be encouraged.
Props to the IE 7 team, you guys showed some serious class and also delivered a great upgrade (minus a few bizarre interface choices) recently.
Now who do I have to send a cake to to get my menus back in IE without hitting alt?
I kid!
(mostly)
Re:Obligatory comment (Score:5, Funny)
Nice cake...but what's with all the bugs?
Re:Obligatory comment (Score:5, Funny)