Blog Torrent Beta Released 125
chatooya writes "Downhill Battle has released the first public preview of Blog Torrent a "simplified" BitTorrent package that they developed because, "Making it easy to blog large video files means that people can share their home movies the same way they share their photos or writings." Features include: integrated torrent creation and upload, simple non-MySQL installation, and an RSS feed for every tracker. Currently Windows only on the client side, but Mac and Linux versions are in the works."
sounds like a cool idea but (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd love to see it take off but I'm yet to be convinced.
Simon.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:5, Funny)
Just wait till Natalie Portman or Jenifer Lopez start video-P2P-blogging and you'll see the readership increase quite a bit.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:4, Funny)
Damn...
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:2)
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:5, Insightful)
Plus it lets the blog owner use their home connection bandwidth instead of their blog/server bandwidth...
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:1)
Actually that is one of the few real problems that I've noticed with bit torrent. People share while downloading the torrent but then once they have it they stop sharing. The result is that for really big torrents you often end up downloading like 90% of the torrent and then you are screwed because there is no one sharing the last part of it.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:4, Interesting)
Sure, you can let torrents seed for a while, and I frequently do. But a 3 or 4GB torrent has to seed for days before even coming close to a 1:1 ratio.
I wish residential connections weren't so assymetrical. BitTorrent would be amazing if everyone had 3000/1000 or even 1500/1500 connections.
-Z
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:4, Interesting)
A good compromise would be for the cable companies to uncap inter-customer connections, and keep the cap on for anything that goes to the Internet. Probably too expensive tho.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:1)
Well, those of us who actually walk the walk do.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:1)
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:5, Informative)
It does work. With this in place the effect of running BitTorrent (or whatever) in the background is tiny.
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:3, Interesting)
What I think would be useful would be a super easy way to seed a bunch of torrents at once, and throttle the bandwidth on them, so you could provide a tiny trickle to many different torrents and
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:2, Funny)
Look, blogs (weblogs) suck ass. Their only use is to stroke the egos of a bunch of narcissistic losers ("A webpage about me! YAAAAAAAY! Let's tell the entire world about me, because they care. I'm such a wonderful person, let me give you 100000 reasons why! And then I can tell you about my day!").
Blogs fuck up Google. I get 100 irrelevant hits from blogs, and about 10 relevant hits. They just increase the noise to signal ratio. It's like spam, just make it stop!
And now, you want to ruin Bit
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:2)
The last person to say "He thinks that this will, somehow, ruin X?" was the same guy who thought that giving USENET access to AOL users was a good idea. Technology in the hands of the masses (yes, I know I sound somewhat elitist) is not necessarily a good thing. Further proof? The kids in the back of the movie theatre who shine their laser pointers during the movie.
Granted, Bit Torrent is a tad more difficult to mess up (they need a tracker, and unpopular files tend to die), but I can see t
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:3, Insightful)
On the other point, I guess I haven't had to search for torrents before. If it's something that the server operators would benefit from having a torrent, it
Re:sounds like a cool idea but (Score:1)
I don't know... (Score:1)
Well I guess that depends on the type of "home movie" **cough** doesn't it...
How can this work on a small scale? (Score:5, Insightful)
Any retorts?
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:5, Informative)
pretty simple
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:2, Informative)
This idea is flawed.
That really depends... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:2, Informative)
Unless of course you always film yourself alone.
The idea is not flawed.
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:5, Insightful)
But without p2p, you would have to upload the whole file to a server, tell your friends and family where the file can be downloaded. Which means that you would have server space with very generous bandwidth limits, etc, etc.
With a torrent, you create the torrent, register it with a tracker, and post on your blog or in an email, and you never have to think about it, nor would you have to wait for the upload to finish first before telling your friends & family.
This rocks.
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:1)
Never have to think about it? Right, like people would seed that more than a week or so...
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:2)
blogger as the only seeder.. (Score:1)
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:5, Insightful)
For instance, this link has been making the rounds last week:
http://img40.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img40=feuerfreim
You could easily find that link on a thousand LiveJournals. It's not quite slashdotting, but files often get locked out because they're shared on bandwidth limited servers.
So don't think home movies. Think shared movies. Not the MPAA DivX kind, but more like weebls stuff or mpeg clips of turkeys attacking George Bush's crotch or something... The kind of thing that's embedded in a page.
Killakid (Score:2)
My stupid video at Killakid.com [killakid.com] got posted on a couple hundred blogs somehow. Next thing I know I pushed 60GB of traffic through my site in 2 days.
Re:Killakid (Score:1)
Be sure to give us an update in 2 days.
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:2)
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:1)
Before Torrent: Little traffic means nothing to worry about. Lots of traffic (link from some big site) means the movie has to go.
Using Torrent: Little traffic still means nothing to worry about. Lots of traffic makes the problem even smaller, as you suddenly and automatically have thousands of mirrors.
Re:How can this work on a small scale? (Score:1)
Is it really easy enough? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Is it really easy enough? (Score:2)
Re:Is it really easy enough? (Score:2)
Re:Is it really easy enough? (Score:2)
Re:Is it really easy enough? (Score:1)
I think this previous post [slashdot.org] covers our thinking on the subject pretty well.
When it comes to really large files, uploading them from a home computer to a webserver is no picnic. Most people don't have more than 500MB on their web hosting account. And uploading really large files in a web form is really flakey--there's no status bar, etc. Also, if your original file is on a home computer with a cable modem, just getting the file uploaded could take a couple days. In the
New P2P app (Score:2, Informative)
I could check it myself, but (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I could check it myself, but (Score:2)
Mycroft
Re:New P2P app (Score:1, Funny)
Re:New P2P app (Score:1)
Re:New P2P app (Score:1)
Application? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Application? (Score:2)
Re:Application? (Score:3, Funny)
Remind me to avoid the blogs you visit... I'm not into Snuff films...
Oh, you meant... ah. I see now.
Re:Application? (Score:1)
Remember VCR? DVDs? internet?
just what i was looking for (Score:5, Funny)
Why is this a "blog"? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why is this a "blog"? (Score:2, Interesting)
Misuse of a misuse of a misuse of a made-up name. One of my family member is here behind me, looking at this
Re:Why is this a "blog"? (Score:2, Informative)
User mindset (Score:3, Funny)
An admirable work, congratulations to them. Though doesn't this sort of encourage users to think that it's right to download and run small executables in order to get to bigger files? We should probably be teaching users to be a bit more discerning about what they click 'Open' on.
I'm nitpicking, of course
Re:User mindset (Score:4, Informative)
We definitely thought about that, and other people have raised that concern. But here's how we view it:
First, the only person who gets an executable to download is a first time user. Once Blogtorrent is installed, the tracker detects that and just serves you up regular torrent files (or blogtorrent files for uploaders). So we aren't creating any habits here.
And considering the first time user, they fall into one of two camps. Either they're an experienced user who understands what's bad about running an executable from an untrusted website, or they're not.
If the former, they'll be happy to install Blogtorrent if the tracker is running on a site they trust, while if it's on "war3z d00d's p2p moviez page" they probably won't. And they won't have to. It will be enough to check out Blogtorrent.com and download it there.
And if the latter is true (our user doesn't know what's bad about running executables from shady sites) then their computer is probably already a petri dish of virii trojans, adware, and virii, or it will get that way soon. And the majority of such users would have a hard enough time wrapping their heads around how Bittorrent works that they'd just give up without the executable installer.
Deciding to *not* give these users an executable installer just means deciding (on their behalf) that they should continue their life in adware purgatory, but without that video clip or album they wanted. We wouldn't really be protecting anybody by not providing this feature.
And I know Bittorrent is pretty easy to install, but trust us, we've talked to so many people who have tried *so* hard to get it and failed miserably. With the executable, anybody who wants a file will end up getting it. And next time they're covered.
Running EXE files (Score:2, Informative)
In other news... (Score:2, Funny)
Incorporate into /. (Score:2, Interesting)
Perhaps this could help alleviate the slashdot effect?
Not much use (Score:2)
Blogtorrent probably won't be much use for most people as Bittorrent is not so good when there's only a handful of downloaders. Most people's blogs just aren't that interesting. It would be handy for
Re:Not much use (Score:2)
actually, I think there is even a bookmaklet to do this automatically. *googles* Yep, here it is:
Coral Cache Bookmarklet [ostermiller.org]
THTTP (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:THTTP (Score:2)
Re:THTTP (Score:2)
Re:THTTP (Score:2)
Re:THTTP (Score:2)
I click and receive a website in under a second in many cases (10Mbit feed at home). BitTorrent takes over a second just to figure out what peers are out there, not including beginning a download.
There are smart ways to spread copies of small amounts of data around for faster access; BitTorrent isn't one of them.
Re:THTTP (Score:2)
BT swarms are optmized for large amounts of static content... they are terrible for small amounts of dynamic data (ie, websites).
Different variant could really help (Score:2)
Basically, set up the browsers to share the cached data.
A typical transaction life cycle would be to send an HTTP request to a server, but instead of getting back the actual document content, your browser gets back a short list of the last n clients to ask for the document. Your browser then requests the do
LOL (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:LOL (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:LOL (Score:2, Informative)
Holmes
Downhill Battle [doownhillbattle.org]
Ideal for podcasting (Score:2, Interesting)
Bit Torrent? Goodbye .edu! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Bit Torrent? Goodbye .edu! (Score:2)
Amateur Porn (Score:3, Funny)
Oh yeah, naked people.
Re:Amateur Porn (Score:1)
If you build it, you can bet it will be used for porn. This new tool is certainly no exception to the rule.
Evolution... (Score:4, Funny)
Then came blogs about peoples cats...
Now we have videos about peoples cats...
And still, NOONE CARES! Seriously.
Re:Evolution... (Score:3, Insightful)
Blogs are no different from what you have up ("I like shakespeare, I'm a geek, here's stull I think is funny..."). The ONLY difference is that bloggers use software.
Basically, if you have a webpage with info about you, you can't say squat about weblogs.
Re:Evolution... (Score:2)
Re:Evolution... (Score:1)
>look like this, then I'm all for evolution.
Those "girls" are BUTT UGLY. And I mean ugly in "I wouldnt fok that one if I was blind" way.
Seriously, what is wrong witth you ? Are you from England, Australia or Utah or something ?
I be that this is your favourite one
http://www.littlegrayguy.com/lgg/images/page052/fr ont/rebecca_052f.jpg [littlegrayguy.com]
or this one
http://www.littlegrayguy.com/lgg/images/page003/fr ont/Img_7749f.jpg [littlegrayguy.com]
or this
http://www.littlegr [littlegrayguy.com]
Re:Evolution... (Score:1)
Re:Evolution... (Score:2)
Not true. My cat has his own blog [bonius.com], and 2 of my readers (ok, so it's just my mom and my sister) are constantly emailing me for updates/pictures, etc.
That the purpose (for me anyhow) of the blog. It's for friends/family who are wondering "Gee, I wonder what Bone is up to?" to have a place to get that question answered.
How they are called? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:How they are called? (Score:1)
Of course, you could also go with bitlog, torog, blorrent,
Re:How they are called? (Score:1)
Yep, there's one word to describe them all, crap.
RegardselFarto
Screws up already installed clients (Score:1, Informative)
Oh yeah, and I love your site, downhillbattle? You want to spread awareness
Re:Screws up already installed clients (Score:4, Informative)
If you'd bothered to actually take a look at the 'BlogTorrent' thing (I hate the name, by the way, but what can you do?), you'd see that it *DOES* include separately hosting the
Re:Screws up already installed clients (Score:1)
I wasn't trolling, that was my experience with the client. I was just 'demoing' it out and found out it was worthless. I'm not terribly interested in checking out the "full" version to "publish" them, especially because their website says this is pretty much the same as the downloaders version (see the section on the front page entitled "Why use Blog Torrent on your blog or website?").
Why not just learn from blizzard and use a technique like the blizzard downloader [worldofwarcraft.com], an all in one stand-alone exe which d
Re:Screws up already installed clients (Score:2)
Anyway, I do agree with you that it would be nice if they did something like the Blizzard Downloader that just downloads that one file and that's it, but I don't think that's what they're aiming for. It looks like they'
Blog! (Score:1)
Blog blog blog blog!
I suspect it won't be all that long before we start to see this term misapplied in non-computer related stories, instead of just computer-related stories. Can't you just imagine it?
On a more relevant note, it's a good idea in theory, but I doubt that I'd want to share much of my precious capped bandwidth to distribute the video of some boz
woohoo! (Score:1)
But does anyone really think that getting users to download and run random binaries off the internet is a good thing? How are people supposed to be able to differentiate the "good" foo.torrent.exe offering (say) porn from the "bad" dialer.exe which also offers porn?
And why did the project think that having users install new software from a different web-site every time they feel like watching a video was a better solution than creating a clear and fool-proof BT client which only needs to be downloaded o
Future (Score:1)
Really, come one, we're going to have a technology that allows HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of video feeds, with the ability to easily search for streams playing (using RSS), with the ability to handle popular feeds to scale up (albeit, we'll see how it works, but I think it'll happen).
We've all moaned about the lack of quality on TV, and although it'll start poor quality, it'll get better! This is a Tivo for us all!
Re:Future (Score:2)
Server resources? (Score:1)
Anyone know?
Not automatically seeding? (Score:1)
The BlogTorrent itself is not seeding.
So I have to keep my local machine running.
BT developers, please consider BT to store the file on the server and seed it automatically.
Yes of course, then you have to have lots of webspace and others might swamp your precious space, but then you can blog and turn your local machine off.
Make it optional...
-silence
Arg!.. People dont get it (Score:1)
They thought 'this blog thing would be useful for posting songs' (musos not being the geekyest of types)
But hosting would cost too much. so they thought 'bittorret would share the load' bit it was complex and time-consuming (musos not being the geekyest of types)
So they thought 'we could combine the two - lets call it blogTorrent'
It was slasdotted and people cried 'Vapourware' so they released something and people complain about 'bu
You're an ass (Score:1, Informative)
stop trying to use slashdot to drive traffic to your shitty blog
that is all
PS: i hope you get colon cancer
That wasn't Roland (Score:2)