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Star Trek: New Voyages, Downloadable Video 349

tm2b writes "What if you could make new episodes of the original Star Trek, with the same characters, worse acting (believe it or not), better special effects, and lower resolution? It seems that some fans secured the Roddenberry family's support for doing just that. They call it Star Trek: New Voyages and they've completed one full episode and and working on another to be released in August. They plan to pick up with the fourth year of the "five year mission," and the first episode can be downloaded in zipped WMV format. It's worth checking out if you can ignore acting that actually makes you yearn for the quality of the original cast. Personally, I love seeing what they can do rendering the old ST tech with modern CGI."
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Star Trek: New Voyages, Downloadable Video

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  • Torrent? (Score:3, Funny)

    by The Iconoclast ( 24795 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:20PM (#9474306)
    Does anyone want to set up a .torrent file?
    • Re:Torrent? (Score:3, Insightful)

      Or better yet, anyone got an MPEG or other decent format?
  • WMV (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:20PM (#9474309)
    Zipped WMV Format? Is this some sort of Romulan Empire technology I'm not familiar with? Boy, let me rush right over and download that! :P
    • The trailer at any rate works fine for me that way (using Knoppix-based Debian install). Xine complains that my processor isn't fast enough*, but that seems to me a family matter and nothing the authorities have any right to pass comment upon.

      timothy

      *And they mean the one on my desk, a VIA Epia-M 900. Probably right, too, but the trailer played acceptably for me ...
  • by YetAnotherName ( 168064 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:21PM (#9474314) Homepage
    Worse than Shatner?

    Oh.....come.....on.....I.....find that......hard....to.....believe!
    • Kirk: Captains log.....Stardate 38436.2....We are lost.....Floating near an unknown quadrant of the galaxy....
      Uhura calls out: No we're not...Thats Uranus!
      Kirk: Ahhh come on! Surely....that joke is..... wearing a little thin!
      Spock: I believe that is illogical captain, seeing as you are not wearing any pants

      Yep, I miss the old Star Trek series.....

    • by Anonymous Coward
      For those that haven't seen it yet and fail to believe the possibility of worse acting, watch Starship Exeter [mac.com]. I kid you not, it's frightening and full of that classic star trek alien/android 'i don't get that joke' humour that makes you sooo angry.
      • Re:*WORSE* acting??? (Score:4, Informative)

        by Surazal ( 729 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @07:28PM (#9475018) Homepage Journal
        Starship Exeter [mac.com] is not as bad as Hidden Frontier [hiddenfrontier.org].

        Starship Exeter: Done old-school style, and the actors are not that horrible to watch. I even feel nostolgic just watching it, pining for the good old days.

        Hidden Frontier: Done with schnazzy new graphics, but the actors want to make you scream. I mean, apparently, Star Fleet's Weight-Loss Program just isn't as effective in TNG time or something. This show proves that very large people who can barely fit into obviously home-tailored uniforms still hs the ability to make me nauseous.

        I'll have to check out the new episodes I haven't yet seen on Starship Exeter (last I checked before today they just had the first one completed and the next was still months away from production).

        And for this new one, well, sheessh, it's just something else to kill yet more time with this evening. ;^)
  • by Limburgher ( 523006 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:22PM (#9474316) Homepage Journal
    Star Trek Fan Fiction Fan Fiction?

    WARNING:Approaching Nerd Factor 9. . .

    Seriously, though, I salute their courage and hard work. This can't have been simple to put together.

    • Re:What's next? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by RLiegh ( 247921 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:26PM (#9474341) Homepage Journal
      It does look like they've put an unimaginable amount of thought, time and effort into this; it's just a damned shame that they couldn't have gotten people who can actually act for it.

      They decided that going for the visual resemblence of TOS cast was more important than hiring (or recruiting, I'm sure tons of people would volunteer) people who actually can act to play the parts.

      Personally, I'd rather see someone who looks nothing like shatner but is able to act play the part of kirk than watch a shatner-alike ham it up.
      • "Personally, I'd rather see someone who looks nothing like shatner but is able to act play the part of kirk than watch a shatner-alike ham it up."

        The problem with that is people that can do that have a talent they can make money with.
      • Re:What's next? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Epistax ( 544591 )
        Seeing all the things Shatner is in right now I'd bet he'd be willing to do it himself for minimum wage... That still doesn't solve your basic complaint though.
      • They decided that going for the visual resemblence of TOS cast was more important than hiring (or recruiting, I'm sure tons of people would volunteer) people who actually can act to play the parts.

        After visiting their site, and reading their FAQ (while slooowly downloading the trailer..) I read this direct quote...

        How will the characters be portrayed?

        The original Star Trek characters are so well known that the task of recasting the parts seems impossible. We are not casting people who look or act like

    • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:56PM (#9474491)
      WARNING:Approaching Nerd Factor 9. . .

      Cap'n, I canna giv' ye Nerd Factor 9. The lassie weel only go 11 and up.

      KFG
  • Hidden Frontier (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:25PM (#9474329)
    Another great fan made Star Trek is Hidden Frontier [hiddenfrontier.org]
  • by dotslashconfig ( 784719 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:25PM (#9474331)
    Make the Star Trek name absolute mud? Honestly, it has all been downhill since TNG...

    Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people. We stay stationary, people... that's our job - to be dull!"

    Star Trek Voyager: "To boldly promote the worst captain ever! Yeah, Janeway - you go, girl. Magically know stuff that no one else does. Cool, baby!!!"

    Star Trek Enterprise: "To boldly go and fuck up the entire timeline."

    Give it up, already... this is just getting pathetic. Leave us with the good stuff and get rid of this marketing money-driven drivel.
    • I agree to a point. TNG was the peak of Trek. I loved that series and the best Trek movie was TNG...."First Contact".

      DS9 was ok...the second season with the Dominion was probably the best, but they lost their way with the series.

      Never got into Voyager and I haven't seen one episode of Enterprise.
      • DS9 is less hoaky than TNG, but then TNG got less hoaky after Rodenberry died, so that is probably the reason.

        DS9 also had a better lead off than TNG, he first 3 seasons were god where the first 3 seasons of TNG were cheap sets, bad music, and weird camera shots.

        Voyager just took the PCness of TNG to an entirly new level and it pissed me off.

        Enterprise lost its way in he first season, and no that the 3rd season is over, I actually like what I saw. there might actually be a movie to come out of it like th
        • Actually, I thought the second season of TNG was pretty good, though I stand alone there. They had some of the best episodes...like when they first meet the Borg via Q. Then "Measure of a Man" about Data. Also the one about Prof. Moriarty was pretty good as I'm also a Sherlock Holmes fan.

          But I do agree, it got better after Rodenberry no longer had any control over it.

          But the crowning episodes in my mind was "The Inner Light" and "The Defector".

          Ok, I'm really showing my geek-ness now.
          • by Chris Mattern ( 191822 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @07:37PM (#9475072)
            > when they first meet the Borg via Q.

            Yeah, that was good. The best episode of the second season, IMHO. Q is always fun, and there's always good chemistry between Patrick Stewart and John de Lancie.

            > Then "Measure of a Man" about Data.

            I'm sorry. This really could have been a great episode, done right. But the "legal regulations" for Data's arbitration board were so utterly contrived, so completely ludicrous, that they made no sense whatsoever. Legal proceedings are at least putatively designed to dispense justice, not to cause Cdr. William Riker and the rest of the Enterpise crew the maximum amount of angst possible. They totally destroyed my suspension of disbelief (and I can usually take a lot in the direction). It just didn't work.

            > Also the one about Prof. Moriarty was pretty good as I'm also a Sherlock Holmes fan.

            Meh. I'm a Holmes fan myself, but I didn't care for it much. Possibly because I'm allergic to holodeck episodes.

            > But the crowning episodes in my mind was "The Inner Light" and "The Defector".

            "The Defector" was pretty good, and "The Inner Light" was one of the finest pieces of SF ever produced for television. But neither is second season, so they can't be used to argue the quality of the second season.

            Chris Mattern
      • I'll probably get slammed for it, but I quite liked Voyager. I quite liked the characters and although it was pretty high-and-mighty on the morals at times, the idea of the ship being totally on it's own was pretty nice.

        I hated DS9. I saw it as a blatent B5 ripoff, so I never bothered to watch more than the occasional episode when nothing else good was on TV.

        Never watched much of Enterprise.

        N.
    • by hikerhat ( 678157 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:56PM (#9474493)
      Hmm. I thought Voyager was pretty good. But then, unlike most slashdotters, I'm not afraid of women.
    • by jhoger ( 519683 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:14PM (#9474577) Homepage
      TNG was great. It concentrated mostly on ethics and morality stuff.

      DS9 was much more interesting to me. Because they stay in place, there is a chance for political tensions to develop. Makes things a lot more interesting being able to fully explore relationships between ST cultures. In many ways it was the best trek for my tastes.

      Voyager sucked. Cheese factor over the top even for trek.

      Enterprise: let me explain this to you since you seem to find it so hard to understand: with time travel involved which is THE BASIS OF THE SERIES, you can't really have a fucked up timeline. There will be changes to it, but in the end I'm sure the timeline will be pretty much as we'd expect at the end of the show. Some things may happen earlier/later, but in general it will all work out. You and the other 5 guys that spout this on Slashdot every day are simply wrong.

      I'm tired of you folks saying they should pack it in. You're wrong, there are plenty of us that still enjoy trek. If you can find any way to produce sci fi that doesn't cost money and require marketing, lay it out there for us. With your limited imagination though, I doubt you could come up with much.

      • by aardvarkjoe ( 156801 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:19PM (#9474608)
        With your limited imagination though, I doubt you could come up with much.

        You're defending Enterprise, and then turn around and accuse somebody of "lack of imagination"?
        • Enterprise is by no means perfect and I won't try to defend it in general. I'd say I enjoy it more than Voyager but less than TOS, TNG, and DS9. But I have to say the end of this last season did get a lot more interesting. And there have been plenty of episodes that I really liked.

          I wouldn't say it lacks imagination. In any event, whether Enterprise does or does not lack imagination or whether I am willing to defend it doesn't have much impact on whether the cretin I was accusing of no imagination has any.

      • time travel involved which is THE BASIS OF THE SERIES

        I admit that I stopped watching Enterprise in the middle of the first season, but since when was time travel the BASIS of it? The BASIS was how Earth got started toward becoming the Federation. That they chose to make a time-travel plot come up a lot doesn't make it the basis for the show.

    • "Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people. We stay stationary, people... that's our job - to be dull!"

      I was about to write a 3 paragraph rant about how you're wrong about DS9. But I stopped for a moment and thought "why take it seriously?"

      Well this is a bit of a dilemma. Am I a nerd for initially wanting to write that pointless rebuttal, or did I escape being a nerd by thinking "eh it's just a show, so what?"
    • by Jeff DeMaagd ( 2015 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:39PM (#9474728) Homepage Journal
      I thought DS9 was the best of all. With the previous series, they rarely had to deal with deep-seated hatred between two races. It also had a long plot-arc, something that was practially verboten in OS, and in TNG until 4th season.

      Most of all, I liked DS9 because it didn't try to paint Starfleeters as such perfect, moral people, and didn't try to paint an idea that all problems can be solved in a week (or two). And I was tired of all the moral pontificating that TNG had, it was a better show when they were OFF the Enterprise, like on the homeworlds of other races.

      Being on a station didn't seem to stop them from going places, they still had runabouts, went to numerous Gamma quadrant planets, and later, they did eventually get the Defiant.
      • DS9 is first rate! (Score:2, Insightful)

        by mariox19 ( 632969 )

        DS9 had the most human stories of all, and is in many ways the most original of all the shows following TOS. The scripts were terrific: well written and thought provoking; and the acting was most of the time really quite good.

        I'm with you -- it's the best of all.

    • While I agree that the quality of Star Trek has been pretty bad (which is a shame because it's a workable universe in which to place good stories, but they rarely ever did), DS9 was actually the best of the group (such as it was), because it had a continuing plot. By setting it on a space station, they could have things that happen in one episode affect the next episode. There was fallout from the decisions the crew made. (And the actors were generally better, in my opinion, on DS9, although I don't know
    • You got it wrong ...

      ST:TOS: To boldly go where no man has gone before ...
      ST:TNG To boldly go where no one has gone before (PC version)
      ST:DS9: To boldly stay in one place
      ST:VOY To boldly go and get completely lost

      And that's from before Enterprise, so I don't know where Enterprise would fit in. Perhaps `To bodly go and mess up the time-space continum?' :)

    • Like Next Generation is any better..."To boldy go where no man has gone before, have it attack us, and then escape at the last minute by reversing the polarity of something!"
    • Make the Star Trek name absolute mud?

      "They" are not doing anything. Its a private, not for profit group that is doing this, not the Copyright holders. The copyright holders (Eugene Roddenberry, son of Gene) have come in toward the last, and given alot of leeway because he feels the project is exactly what his father would want. Additionally, many talented people from the movie industry have donated (or near donated) their time for the project. The producers are paying for the entire project out of the
    • Star Trek DS9: "To boldly go... no where. We're on a freaking space station people.

      Ironically, I thought DS9 actually did more exploring than later TNG. On DS9, they were always taking the runabouts through the wormhole and actually going where no one had gone before, whereas the typical plotline for a TNG episode was "We're on a routine mission delivering toilet paper to the outpost on Squeblakron 12" followed by either an omnipotent alien playing games with them, some systems malfunction which almost
    • Star Trek Enterprise: "To boldly go and fuck up the entire timeline."

      Haven't you been paying attention? According to Enterprise, history NEEDS a dumbass.

  • WMV (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Jesrad ( 716567 )
    WMV is a tool of the Devil.
    • Re:WMV (Score:5, Funny)

      by sql*kitten ( 1359 ) * on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:52PM (#9474471)
      WMV is a tool of the Devil.

      Really? Why? Or rather, why moreso than Quicktime?
      • For playback of files this size, XVID cuts the mustard on the quality/compression tradeoff just as well; only everyone gets to watch it. (even with lower spec hardware)

        I'll just cower in the corner know while I get flamed for even suggesting a FOSS codec 'cuts the mustard' :/
        • I was thinking a Theora+Vorbis encoding would be interesting to compare with (now that Theora I is finalized, it's safe to encode movies in it [theora.org]). But I don't have the video file from which the WMV was made, and transcoding won't show off Theora or Vorbis. Perhaps someone who made the movie will read this and make a Theora+Vorbis encoding (it would be even nicer if it were licensed under a Creative Commons [creativecommons.org] license and packaged with a copy of the applicable license so we know we can legally share it with our

    • "WMV is a tool of the Devil."

      +4 Insightful?! WMV == Bad no matter what? Eh?

      It can reach an audience in the 10's of millions without needing to install new software. It has a decent compression rate. It's free to author it. Etc etc etc. Tool of the devil? Grow up.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    if you haven't downloaded it yet, better wait awhile. any other mirrors out there?
  • by The Living Fractal ( 162153 ) <banantarr@hot m a i l.com> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:27PM (#9474350) Homepage
    Did they get Steven Segal as the captain, whose mission it is to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and BEAT THE CRAP out of their civilizations? (fade-in Segal beating the crap out of a green alien dude with his bare hands, then saying "Where the hell is that chick who jumped out of the cake?!")

    Ok, I admit it, I'm a troll.. I just can't help it. I like negative karma ;p
    • You thought you were trolling. Really, you just accurately described just about every episode of the original series. In fact, the only difference I see is that Shatner could make a fight believable. He could make me care. Segal makes me want to see what's playing on the radio.
  • Whew... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:29PM (#9474357)
    Capn' I don't think the mirrors will hold, even by rerouting auxillary power!

    Seriously, all mirrors were slower than death already while the post was in the Mysterious Future...
    • Yeah, yeah, yeah. BUT
      If we just reconfigure the main subtransroute matrix, we can increase output 10x on our main destabilizer conduit and get everybody connected.....
      Of course that will burn out our main deflector dish!
  • zip ? (Score:5, Funny)

    by selderrr ( 523988 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:32PM (#9474369) Journal
    what's the point in zipping a WMV file ??? I can't imagine getting more than 1% gain, probably even a negative compression effect...
    • Re:zip ? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by juuri ( 7678 )
      You get anywhere from 2-5% compression depending on codec used. When something is downloaded a couple thousand or even hundred thousand times that little amounts of savings can add up to a huge overall savings in total bandwidth.
    • Re:zip ? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Flamesplash ( 469287 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:53PM (#9474481) Homepage Journal
      Someone already said this, but I'll expound

      If you don't zip then people can stream it off your server, if they end up watching it multiple time then that's additional bandwidth off your server, if you zip it they have to DL it and are more likely to just remember they have it localy and rewatch it from there.

      zipping seemed stupid to me till I found this out.
      • Well, if they configured their web server they wouldn't have to screw around like that :)

        The need to tell their webserver to send .WMV files with a content type like 'application/octet-stream' instead of whatever video/* type they default to. This will tell the browser to download it as a file instead of streaming and displaying it. As far as I'm aware MSIE has been respecting content-types with every version after 4.0.

    • Re:zip ? (Score:4, Informative)

      by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:36PM (#9474705) Homepage Journal
      "what's the point in zipping a WMV file ???"

      Probably to fix some stupidness with Microsoft's Media Player. Let's say you link to a .WMV file that's 100 megabytes. When you click on it, WMP fires up and sits there and does NOTHING until the whole 100 meg file is down. It appears to be frozen, and you have NFI how much you have left to XFER. If you try to start another media file that WMP monopolizes, it just kills the transfer as opposed to opening a new window. If you put it in ZIP format, you know how long it'll take to get, and you don't have WMP sitting around in limbo. Pretty lame, huh?
  • by Jugalator ( 259273 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:42PM (#9474433) Journal
    I went to Mirror 1. The page loaded quickly, as did the main page. I got confused. This was Star Trek and on Slashdot. I initiated the download. I got 0.1 KB / sec.

    *phew*

    The world hadn't gone crazy after all.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    But can they ever match the horror that is Turk Trek? http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=art icle&articleid=22646
  • Ob. quotes (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:45PM (#9474440)

    Scotty, beam me down a zipped WMV file!
    Sir, I just doanna 'ave the power!

    Bones, what the hell happend to those mirrors?
    They're dead, Jim.
    Can't you bring them back up?
    Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor not a .torrent!

  • http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter Starship Exeter This one is done with a different ship in the The Original Series universe. Makes the change of the crew actors a bit more plausible.
  • by Syre ( 234917 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:51PM (#9474469)
    • by Syre ( 234917 )
      Yeah, for some reason /. replaced the | with 7C and got rid of the //.

      Here are the links (copy paste to your browser and they will trigger the d/l if you have the app installed and configured properly).

      ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages Teaser.zip|16636412|5efe45b60842aaa3f4f7538ed5b1e 0 90|
      ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_1.zip|21745192|c6d53b71f5a2af3a4b13af8d2dee534 6|
      ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_2.zip|20632051|03eaa80b912ed09dd08931ba9923c4a 1|
      ed2k://|file|Star Trek New Voyages act_3
      • Here are the links (copy paste to your browser and they will trigger the d/l if you have the app installed and configured properly).

        After removing the spaces Slash inserted into them of course. :-) The forum code is a bitch sometimes, but at least you didn't stumble upon the lameness filter. ;-)
  • by njdj ( 458173 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:55PM (#9474490)
    worse acting (believe it or not),

    Trashing Shatner's and Nimoy's acting shows you're really sophisticated, one of the in-crowd. Like EVERYbody agrees they can't act, right?


    Stop being a mindless sheep. There is nothing wrong with Nimoy's acting, and little to complain about in Shatner's. They're not Alec Guinness, but their performances in the original Startrek were perfectly adequate.

    • Shatner was making a living as a stage and television actor long before he did Trek. You don't get callbacks for Shakespeare if you suck. With ST:TOS he wasn't exactly getting Shakespeare-quality scripts to work with...
      • Re:Thank you... (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Dun Malg ( 230075 )
        Shatner was making a living as a stage and television actor long before he did Trek. You don't get callbacks for Shakespeare if you suck. With ST:TOS he wasn't exactly getting Shakespeare-quality scripts to work with...

        I think the only problem with Shatner's acting was that he couldn't seem to turn down his "stage presence". On TV he always looked like he was doing live theater and exaggerrating every word and movement "so the people in the back of the theater could [see|hear] it". Either he never realize

        • Yes, but this has become a Star Trek thing. Shatner, Shakespearrean actor who filled the screen with his presence. Patrick Stewart, Skaespearrean actor who filled the screen with his stern brogue and cue-ball head. Avery Brooks, I dunno if he's Shakespearrean but he's a real over the top actor who stole the show in every scene he was in...shit, do you not remember the tension in the DS9 pilot when Sisco met Picard? I thought there was going to be some kind of explosion due to an overload of intense acti
    • What he meant was any fan of Trek will be an amazing actor, better even then Shatner, Nimoy, Stewart and Frakes all rolled into one.
    • I don't think the problem was his acting... I think it was his director's directing. The director(s?) couldn't possibly let him play Kirk the way he did, unless that was how they wanted things to come out.
    • by sql*kitten ( 1359 ) * on Saturday June 19, 2004 @07:40PM (#9475088)
      There is nothing wrong with Nimoy's acting

      I saw an interview with him once where he said that whenever the camera stopped rolling, he would spontaneously burst into laughter or start crying. Maintaining Spock's emotionless facade took a lot of effort for him, he couldn't keep it up for long. Hell they had to write a "Data goes crazy" episode every now and again, I reckon that was just to keep Brent Spiner sane.
  • by Bob(TM) ( 104510 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @05:56PM (#9474496)
    The beginning of our fourth mission year brought a new challenge ... perhaps beyond our capabilities. Upon entry into Cyberian space, the efficiency of the Enterprise warp engines was reduced to nearly 1% of their rated capacity. Working together, Science Office Spock and Chief Engineer Scott have determined the physics of the region of space we currently occupy is somehow different from normal space - rapid movement, at least in the conventional sense, is impossible. Originally observed and reported by a member of the Engineering staff, the phenomena has been unofficially named for him.

    Recommend commendation for Ensign Sleesh Doot for identification and communication of this phenomena. Let us all hope we are all able to make it out to be able to see he actually gets it.
  • by AndyChrist ( 161262 ) <andy_christ@yah[ ]com ['oo.' in gap]> on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:06PM (#9474550) Homepage
    What if you could make new episodes of the original Star Trek, with the same characters, worse acting (believe it or not), better special effects, and lower resolution?

    You would never, ever breed.

    You might forget for a while having been beaten up for your lunch money as a kid.

    You get to wear for a little while, clothes more fashionable than anything else you ever wear. (Them ST uniforms is sharp!)

    Or THIS [somethingawful.com] could happen

  • by ClausCCC ( 733333 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:16PM (#9474586)
    The next time someone posts a link to a video instead of each and everyone trying to get the files and slashdotting the server in the process we do the following: Everyone flips a coin 10 times. The lucky guys (1 in 1024) whose coin flips all come up head actually go and download the files. Whose who got the files seed a .torrent. No Slashdotting => happy slashdot crowd!
    • Bookmark the site, set up a counter to remind me to visit again in N days, then download after the slashdot croud has thinned out. I could tell you my formula for incrementing the delay counter, but then it would become worthless.
  • Congratulations! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by master_p ( 608214 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:18PM (#9474599)
    Although their work is not up to the quality of Paramount's production, I want to congratulate them for chasing and finally realizing their dream. Keep up the good work, guys! and don't be disappointed because of any negative comments out there!

    I think that only teams like them can offer something new and innovative...big companies are locked onto money chase. These guys can do anything, as long as they are doing it for hobby.
  • I haven't seen it yet, but reading their message board it sounds like there's a booboo. In the chess game Kirk and Spock may both be moving WHITE peices.

    Or maybe it's just Kirk pulling a Kobayashi Maru. [c2.com]

    -
  • by tm2b ( 42473 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @06:51PM (#9474774) Journal
    I've been thinking about this since stumbling across it (and downloading it before submitting it to Slashdot).

    What's really cool about this is that, as promised, the low price of quality digital video equipment and computer editing is really letting people chase their passions in this way, and the low cost distribution of the Internet is letting

    That's really cool. All the snide comments about Trek creativity that some readers would undoubtable make aside, perhaps the promise of a creative renaissance in video fiction can actually be fulfilled. It doesn't matter if 99% is crap, a higher volume means more great stuff being created and it just becomes a matter of finding the great stuff.

    May a thousand flowers bloom. Times a thousand.
  • by doconnor ( 134648 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @07:15PM (#9474913) Homepage
    For too long Star Trek [startrek.com], the most important series in Geek history, has had second class status to Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings and even The Matrix. Those series has their own topics [slashdot.org]. Star Trek deserves better. Join the others who have signed the petition [petitiononline.com] to give Star Trek a topic on Slashdot.
  • by LionKimbro ( 200000 ) on Saturday June 19, 2004 @09:53PM (#9475852) Homepage
    I watched it, I thought it was great!

    It felt authentic, in a way that everything after ST:TNG does not.

    It's true, it's rusty. But they seem really comitted, and I think they're going to master this system that they've created.

    I just have one major wish:

    I really wish the audio were redubbed. Do the shots just using the microphones on the set, and then perform a seperate dubbing session, so that the sounds are clear.

    Regardless of whether the audio is improved or not, I'm a dedicated fan now.

    I haven't watched a Sci-Fi TV show in about 7 years. But I'm excited about these shows! :)
  • Working Torrent... (Score:5, Informative)

    by The Blue Knight ( 86746 ) on Sunday June 20, 2004 @06:03AM (#9477317)
    ... is located here [dotorg.org]... At least until my tracker gets hosed.

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