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Comment: Re:Numerical calculus (Score 1) 159

by Ol Olsoc (#48951473) Attached to: Can Students Have Too Much Tech?

"Scientific computer models" ARE mathematical equations.

Yes, but to solve them it is more fruitful to learn programming rather than "mathematics" as is likely to be taught in schools. Which is what I was saying.

Way back in secondary school, whne I really sucked in math. Part of it was the teacher was the most uninspiring and boring person ever to teach, and I was just having trouble grasping. Which was weird, because most every other subject, I was way ahead of my classmates.

Then my electronics teacher had us learn how to use slide rules. It was as if a switch was thrown. Here on that hunk of plastic were numbers that connected the dots, that gave a fine mechanical representation of math in so many forms

My algebra and other math grades jumped. The teacher was still boring, but I could think about math in class rather than riding my motorcycle.

The sad part is, I was in the last class that learned this way. They started switching over to calculators the next year.

I still have a slide rule in the gaarage. The batteries in those things seem to last forever.

Comment: Re:This is not new. (Score 1) 159

by Ol Olsoc (#48951423) Attached to: Can Students Have Too Much Tech?

The kids who are interested will already know more than an intro class can teach them. It's the same as thinking of giving an course on how to win at FPS games - those who are interested already know how, and for the rest it's just a waste of time.

You could use that argument for all of the subject matter in school.

We could do most children a lot better by removing one study hall and replacing it with a how to handle money class.

But I suppose that would be like teaching them a trade, in an"Academics are superior" chauvinistic world

Comment: Re:This is not new. (Score 1) 159

by Ol Olsoc (#48951405) Attached to: Can Students Have Too Much Tech?

We should NOT be teaching programming in school, any more than we teach antenna design, television show production, lens grinding, or other trades. Especially when those who are interested are already learning it on their own.

Why not? The trades versus academic distinction is a morally bankkrupt system. I've seen way too many adults who never figured out what they really want to do in life.

In an age where they have "career days for elementary students that just have talking people saying "yeah, this is great", a little hands on experience might be a better way.

The American diminishment of "trades" is a real hot button topic with me, as I took a trade plus academic schedule, and saw just how much discrimination is held by the academics. Hell, the principle of my school tryied to talk me out of it and just take academic.

Discrimination which, by the way, is completely laughable. It's a strange world we live in when the Liberal arts major working at McDonald's - after all, how many careers are there in Philosophy or Women's studies - is held in higher esteem than the master machinist ( equivalent ot a masters in applied mathematics)

Comment: Re:This is not new. (Score 1) 159

by Ol Olsoc (#48951353) Attached to: Can Students Have Too Much Tech?

Except for very bright students, Then it is discovered that the teachers and dumbed down education hinders students more.

If you are on either side of the bell curve you need special education. Low IQ need more hand holding, High IQ need the teachers to get the hell out of the way.

THIS! I was bored out of my skull during High school, and for some weird reason, it was never "caught", or else just nothing was done about it. I'd read the class material as soon as I got it, knew it, and the rest of the school year was torture by boredom.

My failing was that being a teenager, I hadn't developed the drive quite yet. If the system didn't think I was woth a shit, well who was I to argue. Girls, games, and goofin' were the result. I was the perfect candidate for independent studies, and a computer would have been a godsend. Oddly, post secondary education - where so many successful high schoolers fail, was where I thrived.

Comment: DIrty (Score 1) 105

by Ol Olsoc (#48951283) Attached to: The NFL Wants You To Think These Things Are Illegal
Over the course of 10 years or so, starting out form a time when I was glued to the TV on Saturday, Sunday, Monday night and Thrusday night, I've come to the point that I just don't want to be involved in the filth.

Football is pretty sleazy. I don't doubt that the rapes, the assaults, the murders, the cheating and all have been going on for a long time, but now it's all out in the open, and I've switched ove to the NHL. And once you do that, football becomes pretty boring too. Before I gave up on the league, I had started reading during thefootball games for something to do.

So no, I won't be watching tonight. It's a sleazy sport, and the pace is simply glacial. And one of the teams in it appears to be serial cheaters too.

Comment: Re:Amiga (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48948569) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

If in the ideal world of the apple hater, I wonder what version of DOS we would be using on our Blackberry's?

AmigaDOS perhaps?

If only. My favorite machines, way ahead of their time. If Apple showed how to market computers, Commodore showed how not to market them. I made a lot of videos with my trusty old Amigas, from back in frame buffer animation days through multiple Video Toasters. Had an A500, and a A2000 at home, an A2000 and 3000 and 4000 at work.

Damn, those were good times.

Comment: Re:Create a $140 billion business out of nothing? (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48948073) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

Maybe some other OS with a BSD Unix kernel underneath. Which was not developed by Apple either.

McLaren didn't develop the car either. But I do like their Spider.

Regardless, Apple did a lot of innovation, that Microsoft, and even Linux ended up emulating.

And yes, Apple didn't invent the Graphical User Interface or mouse. You have your Sketchpad, your oN-Line System, your Xerox Star, heck, the early NORAD computer SAGE used a light pen, a harbinger of things to come.

But they sure did know what to do with them.

Comment: Re:What a piece of doodoo (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48946665) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

Here's what Apple learnt from John Sculley's time at Pepsi: If your competitor counts the number of bottles sold, while you count the revenue and profit, you let your competitor win in the sales of small bottles. Let them think they are winning while you rake in the money.

Someone needs to mod you up now dammit.

While fanbois love to have a Vietnam war style body count, isn't it supposed to be about profits?

Otherwise we'd be eating crap, because 50 million flies can't be wrong.

Comment: Re:Different markets... (Score 2) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48946629) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

Microsoft sell to people who want to use computers without learning how they work.

What? Isn't it the opposite? Apple Sells Computers to people who just want to do work and not spend hours figuring out how to use the OS. Example, I have spent countless hours showing people how to do the simplest of things on Windows 8.0 / 8.1.

I have no idea where he got that idea, because my experience was much more like yours. The PC was fragile, updates broke programs and reset options, people had to constantly re-learn things to do what they had already been doing (ribbon and 8/8.1) and other productivity killers that necessitated many PC support people.

But one thing. I use terminal in OSX a lot to do quite a bit of stuff. It can do a lot of cool stuff very quickly. You just have to look at OSX as the biggest Linux distro out there.

Comment: Re: Different markets... (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48946585) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

If anything, the industrial design aspect of Apple's products and even high price were side effects. The first was a nice to have, the second not so nice to have. But it didn't change a damn thing. It was always about the core user experience.

Yes. I've spent a lot of time futzing with my PC's a lot working with my Macs. There is a reason why companies have a lot of people keeping their PCs running. People who use PCs at work probably give a big boost to Apple for their home products.

The price. After watching two nerds nearly come to blows over a 5 cent difference in the price of a RAM stick some years ago, I find the whole thing rather silly. I get the impression that all slashdotters drive around in Toyota Corollas, or whatever else the cheapest car is at the moment.

This is not like the Apple costs 20 times what a comparable PC costs. This is a relatively small amount, and often when similar features are compared, the differential is darn small. No comparing an old EEPC netbook to a macbook plus thankyouvery much.

Comment: Re:Create a $140 billion business out of nothing? (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48946469) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

I think its pretty simple. Microsoft overlooked the entertainment part of the market, and stuck with the business/productivity focus almost exclusively. Microsoft remains dominant in business. Apple got it when it came to entertainment and social aspects, and has reaped the benefits of addressing that part of the market.

That's part of it. Several years back, the MS fans bragged about their choice of peripherals, add ons, cards that they could buy, while the measly Apples were stuck with a few.

Now that same argument is used to try to explain why the MS PC is not as well integrated as the Apple product.

In addition, Apple is a hardware company first, and they have a lot of software that is knitted for the OS. I have used Final Cut Studio just about forever, and even iMovie to do video work. I've also run Adobe Premiere on the PC end because some times I just had to use a MS PC. It's quickly obvious which is the superior program, and much of that superiority is based on that integration. And the workflow in the studio suites is just doggone nice.

So whereas Apple is used to hardware/software integration, these other guys are busy trying to write to handle a lot of different machines. And that appears to be a big advantage for Apple.

Comment: Re:Create a $140 billion business out of nothing? (Score 1) 394

by Ol Olsoc (#48946315) Attached to: How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft

Uh. They most certainly did NOT create the smartphone sector. And they sure as fuck didn't do it out of "nothing"

They certainly did give it a kick in the ass though.

But can we stop slobbing the Apple knob?

If in the ideal world of the apple hater, I wonder what version of DOS we would be using on our Blackberry's?

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