If you conside the aborted to be a human being, I'm pretty sure not being killed by your mother/doctor is a civil liberty.

Only on slashdot would posting a nobel-prize winning economists view on socialism be labeled as a troll and flamebait. All I can say is: read the book and see if its not persuasive.

In any case, I do think it would be pretty hard to argue that true laissez faire (and its implied individualism) capitalism leads to tyranny. I think if you read Isaiah Berlin's two concepts of liberty he also makes a very good philosophical argument for why "positive liberties" embodied by socialism will in fact lead to tyranny.

I think, though, it can be argued quite strongly that the end game to socialism is fascism. I think Hayek made that argument quite well in The Road to Serfdom.

I've got an internet plan with 30mbps down/4mbps up. However, turbo boost kicks in at the beginning of downloads giving around 100mbps. So.. for most short web page loads I'm getting 100mbps but for big downloads I get closer to 30mbps.. which to vote for..

Erm... I'm pretty sure RP has a much, much better mathematical background in economics than any of the other candidates. He has actually written books on it, is a member of the Mises institute, and has photos of Hayek, Mises, and Rothbard on his wall.

I'm not sure if I agree %100 on his monetary policies, but he's certainly learned about it. You might prefer Keynesian economics but its certainly not more based in mathematics.

This kind of police state activity is why I am currently so behind Ron Paul. Do I necessarily agree with his foreign policy? No. Do I necessarily agree with his monetary policy? No (although I do agree with substantial parts).

But this I do know, out of all the candidates for our next president he is the only one interested in preserving our liberty. As the primaries and subsequent elections come to your state remember that. Everything else is really pretty meaningless in comparison.

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Yeah. I noticed that too. I didn't think it was very representative.. for a number of reasons. Normally when use the phone in the car I'm stuck in traffic not dodging cones. If I do end up dodging cones I end up having to ask the person the other end to repeat after aforementioned cone dodging is done.

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Their manifesto reads like a laundry list of liberal platitudes.

Rather than advocating liberty by the likes of our founding fathers, Acton, Hayek, Paine, and others, they chant mindless Marxist quotes. This movement is creepy. They think they are fighting for "Freedom for the %99" but all they are doing advocating their own oppression. Their chants for "fairness" are nothing but hallow. They don't want fairness, they want a handout.

Read their manifesto. Covered up Inactive Ingredients? Are you kidding me? Education is a human right.. that no body should pay for? Undermined farmland through monopolization? Nonhuman animals?

And their solution to this.. is to give the government more power? Yeah. Great idea, there kids. They deny reality.

To meet any of their objectives means using force to coerce people to behave a way they other wise wouldn't (education mandates, different pay schemes, less free work laws, stronger privacy laws, etc) and if they are appeased it would only end up with even greater cronyism. They frame every problem entirely incorrectly.

The goal needs to be strip away power from government. That is the solution to cronyism. To give them more laws and regulation WILL just result in more cronyism and more "corporate and state" power.

In other news, the bottom %99 decide the top %1 should pay for their government services. This is the downfall of democracy.

I can only imagine the shock and awe when it only generates %1 of the revenue they expect as the flood of shell companies and offshore activity spikes.

Did you know that already the united state and north korea are the only two countries that take based on citizenship and not residency? Argh.

It seems like no one cares about freedom anymore.