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Comment: Re:Persecution of Christians (Score 1) 362

by veliath (#41529989) Attached to: Stanford-NYU Report: Drone Attacks Illegal, Counterproductive

Americans are not permitted to think themselves better than anyone. As a matter of fact, Americans are always worse.

Americans can certainly think themselves better. But it is hopelessly naive to think the American government is any better, human-rights wise, than the governments of the places they are invading/bombing.

Pakistan was an Islamic nation to begin with in 1947. Zia-Al-Huq with the tacit and monetary support of the Saudi and American governments dragged the country, its foreign policy and its strategic direction into a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam along the lines of the Wahhabists in the late 1970s. This is obvious in how they chose who they armed in Afghanistan, how they created the Taliban from the orphans of the war there, the slow seepage of Saudi style cloistering of women behind high walls and burqas.

So the Pakistani people are paying twice for American government policy decisions. Once for being saddled with the fundamentalism imported from Saudi Arabia in the 1970s and very much alive to this day. And again by fiery barely discriminate death from the skies and the chaos of a decade of hostilities as the American government tries to clean up Blowback.


Comment: Re:The real problem... (Score 1) 1131

My question was really regarding Christian rule vs Islamic rule. Did say the Caliphate or the Ottomans have the equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition? Essentially where the clergy controlled what could and could not be done/said and had an elaborate mechanism of repression in place?

With my limited knowledge it seems to me Christians essentially rebalanced the balance of power in their religion because their clergy was just too powerful and repressive.

Comment: Re:The real problem... (Score 1) 1131

Is that Islam has not undergone a process analogous to the Enlightenment.

Question: Wasn't the Enlightenment essentially a rebellion of the Christian laity against their clergy, primarily because Christianity was so stifling. Has Islam ever been that stifling except in small pockets, much of them quite recently?

Comment: Re:Gotta love... (Score 1) 1131

...those peace loving muslims, eh?

One Muslim group makes a threat and suddenly an entire religious following is tarred?

Would you want Christians/Americans/Europeans judged by their most intolerant's utterances?

Seriously, what the fuck is with these people? Isn't it time to move into the 21st century with the rest of us?

I suppose when you people decide to move, these people have to move as well.

Promising costs nothing, it's the delivering that kills you.