Google is pretty big, they could have done this years ago, when they were approached by the NSA and whatever other acronym agencies to do this shit in the first place. AFAIC Google's image on this is horrendous, I don't see what they can do for me personally to ever trust the company not to provide gov't with information again. Maybe then can, but that would take something else, not words and assurances, a different approach to technology that would be verifiably secure from government snooping.

Nice doubleplusgoodspeak over there.

The government is the leech, or maybe your point is that it doesn't have enough money to run more NSA snooping programs and kill more brown people around the world?

At what point is the quantity of the evil becomes the actual quality of the evil and you admit that big government is a qualitative problem in itself?

In fact IRS is the government, without IRS government is almost non-existent (well, without IRS and the Fed government drops down to the size of pre-1913) and NSA is not there to fight terrorism, it's to spy on people FOR the IRS.

Both you and the Zimbabwe guy are mistaken but for different reasons. His heart is in the right place, but he just doesn't fully understands how the free market functions, you on the other hand are an evil bastard, who wants to use government violence to steal and create a large police state, because that's the end result of any type of collectivist redistribution.

If in Lima there are slums that government is not providing infrastructure for, that's because the government is unable to STEAL enough to buy votes this way. However like in all cases, when the people save enough money and build up the actual economy, and this problem of slums will be eventually reducing because private companies will be hiring more and more people, providing jobs and giving people opportunity either to move out of slums or have enough income so that other private companies would be able to serve those 'slums' economically, then the government will come to the private enterprise with GUNS and put them to the heads of private individuals BUILDING the economy and will steal their productive input.

The government will sell this to the people living in the 'slums' by promising 'free infrastructure' (on the backs of the people who will be actually BUILDING the economy).

So by the time government will be able to extract enough money out of people's pockets to buy votes with these infrastructure projects, private enterprise would have already BY DEFINITION create enough of an economy to do that exact thing, except do it in a non-violent manner, without money being stolen, without violence that you are a proponent of.

That's what XcepticZP doesn't fully understand when he talks about who "deserves" what. There is no such thing, there is only the question of the economy being big and successful enough to hire enough people to reduce poverty and grow infrastructure privately to solve the problems of poverty that LIFE creates, not 'rich people not paying enough taxes'.

But you, you are a monster. You are a fucking monster that this earth is full of. A person that would take a hard working individual and steal from him under the barrel of a government gun, the kind that eventually leads to destruction of all individual freedoms under the guise of 'fairness'.

There is nothing fair about your ideology, it's monstrous and it has played out so many times over the history of humans on this planet with such terrible consequences that not to see this and be a proponent of it at this point means you are a complete monster, with human blood sucking tentacles and all.

The light blue line on the graphs that on page 2 was marked as "Intel 520 Series (240GB)" on the following page was marked as "OCZ Vertex 3.20 (240GB)" and on the rest of the pages Intel was missing as well.

Was that an error in editing or what?

Yes, my point precisely. Ellison invests so that HE can make money.

In the process he builds infrastructure and makes other people more productive by investing his capital into all of these projects. ALL private enterprises can be compared to 'developing a plantation', that's what we all do when we build our businesses: we develop our plantations, so to speak.

Which is exactly how all infrastructure should be built, with private individuals working to make a buck 'developing plantations'. The economies are built around biggest private plantations that the most successful are able to develop.

BS., that productivity did not exist until Ellison created that productivity, created the very idea behind his products, sold them as a concept.

The people he hires are not on their own able to deliver any of the products that Ellison creates and sells.

Your comment makes as much sense as 'the house steals productivity of nails that are part of the structure'.

I suggest you read TFA (I know, I know, a taboo around here)

some of the more relevant parts to your comment:

- there is a crucial difference, eventually a business will run out of its own money.

The difference between an inefficient business and government is that government has captive audience that it forces to pay taxes and a business doesn't (unless it uses the unauthorized power that government stole from individuals when the mob voted for that type of power and the business has special privileges granted to it by government, which is the case with military contracts, utilities, education, health insurance now, etc.etc.)

When a business loses its money, it doesn't affect the larger economy, if you didn't buy from the business you are not affected. If you didn't invest in it, you are not losing anything.

The bond holders may lose, the stockholders may lose, customers may lose, but eventually that business will stop because it will run out of ITS OWN money. Government doesn't stop until it runs out of other people's money and that's how you get these economic disasters nowadays).

This is what drives prices down, prices for everything: freedom.

Freedom to try and freedom to fail, freedom to innovate, freedom to try and make your life better by providing an excellent product or services to a large subset of the population.

Freedom is what government takes away every day. Freedom is what various professional unions also try to take away, but they succeed when they get government on their side. Government protects the buggy and whip makers in every industry.

Relative freedom allows computers and electronics to fall in price or at least not to go up in price as the rest of the consumer products to with inflation going up (so in real terms the prices are still falling).

Freedom used provide Americans with best CHEAPEST health care in the world, where they paid very little money for routine things out of pocket and the rest they could insure against for 2 bucks a month. How was that a problem that needed to be 'solved' by government?

Freedom used to provide Americans arguably with best and cheapest education in the world as well, but then again, they had to pay for it out of pocket and if they did take loans, those were tiny compared to what happened once the government stuck its nose into that.

Medical care would be falling in price (in real terms, I am not talking about the inflation that gov't also causes because of destruction of real money by stealing people's freedoms to deal in real money) with more and more innovation coming on line.

Pills that replace costly surgeries, new types of treatments and diagnostics tools, computerisation... all of this makes things LESS expensive over time, not more expensive.

If government was in charge of building vide cards, well, first of all you wouldn't have any real innovation there, secondly prices would be constantly going up. Why? Because, they would tell you, those things provide you with more computing power.

Same with education. The technology makes education cheaper and more affordable, FREE MARKET DOES THAT, not government, not professional unions, not the whip and buggy makers.

Sure, this guy is complaining, but that's his problem, he IS the whip and buggy maker in the world of Ford and Lamborghini.

By the way, everybody is ignoring yet another problem with this entire NSA wiretapping thing: rogue government agents.

Even if the entire program itself wasn't a violation of the law, the Constitution (and it is), what it also does it provides a motive and an opportunity for government agents to commit crimes. These could be crimes related to stealing private information for the purposes of enriching oneself, it could be stalking of individuals (some love or sex interest for example) it could be just trolling for amusement.

You think nobody wants to approach a government official who has access to this much data and offer him a nice paycheck for providing details on this or that or other? Think again, it can be extremely lucrative just to get data on every 1/100000th person in a country, never mind getting private data on 1/1000th or 1/100th.

Securities fraud, stealing money from bank accounts, credit cards, just plain stealing stuff from homes, etc.etc. Not just millions, this can be a multi-billion dollar business.

- wrong, that's called building a successful business.

- wrong, the profit is the reward that the investors get for providing the public with clean water and a working sewer systems.

- USA used to have that before the mob broke it. It was cheap health care where people paid for most routine stuff out of pocket and 2 (two) dollars a month was one of the most popular health care insurance plans that provided catastrophic coverage. That's what provided cheap and sustainable health care without growing government in process, it actually was best in the world at the time before gov't cockroaches destroyed while the mob was cheering.

- right, most efficient way possible has nothing to do with government. Fact: efficiency is no priority for governments, only growing power is priority and you don't grow power to reducing costs, you grow power by growing the apparatus around you.

He didn't miss it, read his words carefully once more, he is all for it. He is all for it when it suits his purposes, he is just outraged that it can be also used against him.

He wants the governments to discriminate, he just doesn't like when it's HE who gets the short end of the stick.

You are an NSA or whatever other government agency cockroach, not even a shill, just an dark corner dwelling insect.

The reason people are outraged now is because finally it is NOT ME who says things like that but a guy who actually came out with enough evidence that "MAIN STREAM MEDIA" finally cannot wiggle their way out of this.

Now the MSM cockroaches have the same exact attitude as you, government cockroach: why the outrage now, we 'knew' about it?

Because, government cockroach, they can't pretend it's not real and dismiss it.

- you, and others like you are the problem.

You gave the government its power to abuse the law, the Constitution, you gave the government ability to go above and beyond what is authorized by the Constitution to the government when you stand for things like 'helping citizens'.

The only way a government can really help citizens is by providing EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER LAW, which is where equal opportunities come from, which is what allows for maximum individual freedom. It is individual freedom that grows the economy by giving people incentives and removing barriers that prevent them from trying to get rich by building a better, cheaper product.

People are served best not by any government with growing powers, people are served best by other people trying to figure out how to serve people in the most efficient way possible by doing what people are actually interested in.

You are the root cause that created this problem, never a solution to anything.

- bullshit. Catch 22 in action.

They can't disclose this legally or they will face massive government attack from all fronts, be it IRS or OSHA or EPA or SEC or whatever agency, or however many agencies for however long a stretch of time, maybe even personal threats are used.

You just can't know because in a Police State these things are all catch 22 based. You can't ask and you can say, you just have to do what you are told and if you don't, then you are fucked. That's part of what I am talking about when I speak of individual freedoms being destroyed by the mob that votes for bigger and bigger government on the premise that bigger government is a way for the mob to steal from a minority (businesses) to subsidise themselves, and it doesn't matter to the mob, how these things are done.

- sure sure, Google will not be hiding user information from government, but when it comes to their own money, it's well hidden from that very government.

- I was and am always suspicious of the way Mozilla handles self-signed certificates.

AFAIC CAs are the real threat when it comes to the man in the middle attacks. Can't CA provide NSA with another valid certificate, which will be placed into your machine silently because of CA, which creates a much simpler MITM attack than actually doing it the way all these people supposedly concerned about such attacks talk about, when it comes to self signed certs? I don't trust CAs at all, says who that NSA is not working with every one of them?

As a side note, Snowden's just may become what Mohamed Bouazizi was for Tunisia, but I wish him to stay alive. Whoever saying that he is a 'traitor' is a fucking snake tongued piece of shit. Giving away government secrets is not treason if it is government that is breaking the law.

Real treason is directed AT THE PEOPLE, not at any government. Government abusing its power to snoop on people is an illegal act of Treason against people and the Constitution, don't be fooled.