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Comment: It's all about the hierarchy of comments (Score 5, Insightful) 237

by tooyoung (#46164219) Attached to: Update on the March of Progress: How Slashdot's New Look Is Shaping Up
I use classic mode and perhaps have some setting that preserves some older layout. The thing that I like about the older layout is that I can get a real sense of the conversation that is taking place by seeing the hierarchy of comments. I may only be primarily reading +4 and +5 comments, but I can instantly see where they fit in the conversation. Perhaps someone posted a +5, was replied to for two levels, and then someone posted a +4. Showing the hierarchy allows me to instantly understand where the +4 was in relation to the +5, and if I wish, I can quickly open one of the intermediate parents in a new tab, allowing me to view its siblings as well.

This works well for how I read slashdot - I scan down the page for interesting comments, and then open some of the summarized lower level children in a new tab and read through them. If someone posted an interesting point, it is easy for me to view all of the replies.

Admittedly, I have not used the beta much, but I have not been able to figure out how to read in my style. Say that I am reading at the +4 comment level. I have no way of discerning if a particular child comment is replying to the +4/5 parent above it, or if there are several intermediate posts. I have no way to see all of the replies to a particular post.

My experience with classic mode is that I'm reading a conversation, and I have a choice of where I want to dig in further to the conversation. My experience with beta mode is that I'm just reading a bunch of random comments with no good understanding of their relation to each other.

Comment: Re:no, telcos 20+ years old don't get same conditi (Score 1) 163

Even if they provide equal or better, they've lost me. When you have absolute control and abuse your customers, why would they even entertain sticking with you when the playing field becomes level? You've already proven your customer service at that point.

Comment: Re:Maybe... (Score 1) 1121

by tooyoung (#43292865) Attached to: USPS Discriminates Against 'Atheist' Merchandise
So, to return to the GP's example, do you think that agnostics would say: "Invisible pink unicorns have not yet been proven to exist, therefore I will act under the working assumption that they do not exist."

I see this atheism/agnosticism argument all the time and it really just seems to come down to semantics. An atheist is comfortable saying that they don't believe in something, whereas an agnostic (for some reason only in the case of a god argument) has to be super literal and state that anything (living teapots on Saturn) could exist. Face it, you don't believe that invisible pink unicorns exist. You don't believe that there are living teapots on Saturn.

Comment: Re:More like... (Score 4, Insightful) 347

Agreed. If the submitter is looking only to do very basic web pages and not more complex web applications, then, yeah, they probably don't need any further education. Just create a portfolio of content and shop it around.

However, if the submitter is looking to do advanced web applications, possibly for a large company, and get paid over $75K, I would suggest a CS degree. As the parent states, web development goes well beyond HTML and CSS. An understanding of CS concepts is very important for creating a large interactive web application.

Also, are you willing to bank that web development will stay as it is for your entire career? Having a background in a wide range of CS concepts can be very helpful as the sands shift in the future.

Lastly, I'll comment that 80% of people who label themselves as web developers and proficient with JS and CSS only have the most basic understandings of the capabilities. Often, I see people who have taken courses in Java, and then saw that JS looks syntacticly similar on the surface. They code JS as if it is Java, resulting in extremely bloated and error prone code. My favorite statement from one such developer was "If only JavaScript had the concept of a hashtable, this would be so much easier to do".

There's a whole WORLD in a mud puddle! -- Doug Clifford