So when did they first exist?
It's irrelevant to any point I made. Most of the rest of your comment is irrelevant too.
But your summary was based on flawed premises. You should have tried harder to be more accurate.
There is no flawed premise. Ireland gets it's laws from English law not roman laws. Nothing it flawed, as I already said, what I gave was not a comprehensive history of marriage. It's even in the first post. You gain nothing by trying to inject what I left out as I left it out on purpose. BTW, what is it you think you are going to gain by arguing what was never said?
But it did try to change things to suit its needs. Why does the Church get to dictate what it wants?
Because at one point in time, the church had the power to do so. It's fucking history, you can find books about it. I suggest you pick on up.
You didn't limit your comments specifically to Ireland, the UK or the US, you should have started with that caveat, but no, you'd still be wrong in your summary if you didn't note how the Church attempted to subsume existing marriage practices.
You do not need to limit anything as long as it is within the context of the article and GP post. FFS are you that daft that you cannot take that into consideration?
You mean right after Ireland was forcibly conquered by English forces?
Yep, and that would make it the history that is important because it actually happened and is what is influencing modern day Ireland. Wow, for a minute there I though you were a complete imbecile but evidently, you do get it. You just don't want anyone to know it.
As role models go, I'd pass on that.
I'm not sure anyone asked you to make it a role model. If you think I did, I'm sorry your English is so screwed that you got that impression. The history is the history, it is just what is. You do not need to worship it, look up to it, just know about it and decide if you want to repeat it or not.