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Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49142161) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System

Also forgot solaris in there. Yes, there are a lot of server operating systems, and windows does hold a sizable(double digits), minority share, but linux holds a majority share, and has a double digit presence in every market but desktop. Throw in FreeBSD, and the FOSS *NIX share for servers is somewhere around ~%80

I wouldn't count on it if you look at market value...

I asked for a citation, not speculation. Linux is a kernel, GNU is the userland, Ubuntu is a distribution. tweaking a few install settings and adding a few extra patches does not make it "might as well be a whole new kernel", and so does not enabling things not enabled by default. Also turning on features not turned on by default does not count either. Trust me I've compiled, tweaked and patched enough Linux kernels to know this. While I certainly agree super computer kernels are tweaked, the notion "they might as well not be Linux", does not hold water. You might as well say that every Gentoo user "might as well not be using linux", because they all have custom per-machine user compile time configured kernels, which is required as part of the installation.

If you want to have a semantics discussion go elsewhere, if you want to have an actual discussion I suggest you read the actual manuals for linux distributions that were "tuned" (according to your words) for super computer and high-node count clusters.

the wake-locks and power management for android has been mainlined in Linux proper since 3.4. tweaking compile time options is fucking easy, and doesn't change the fact its the exact same kernel, and exact same code. Combined with above comment, its fairly clear you don't have a damn clue what you're talking about. Perhaps you just pick up buzzwords from read computer news.

I suggest you compare the binaries and then return to me and dare to repeat said statement. I get it, you hate systemd, you fail to understand the concept that the same code can compile to very different binaries with a single pre-processor variable, and you don't like the fact that some people out there want productivity. Next you also claim that you don't need a configuration file to know which modules to load at boot. (I'm still staring at the /etc/modules file I have open in vi at the moment.) So I must apologize for having a hard time taking you serious. And lets not forget how you twisted my words into "you think I'm stalking you". You're a bad show man.

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49142063) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System

implying I'm stalking you because I've taken the time to respond to your arguments thoughtfully and patiently. great analogy, it holds water. You've likewise seem to have equal intrest in this conversation.

Where did I imply you stalk me? Quite frankly you're reading stuff I didn't even write.

Also, your correlation between binary driver support and in-app purchases made me chuckle and spill my tea. If you think the only "high performance" hardware that matters is a graphics card, than I fear you have much to learn. Also, your remark about Korean electronics manufacturers is more than a bit wrong. Or are we forgetting Samsung is one of the larger contributors to the linux kernel?

And its exactly THAT mentality about voting that makes sure nothing ever does change.

it doesn't actually. its quite apparent you haven't spent much time really using modern GNU/Linux.

Because /etc/modules and accompanying things really don't exist eh? *facepalm*

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 0) 755

by solidraven (#49104361) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System

I didn't think you got the memo that they are spying on you. I mean we can pretend the snowden leak didn't happen, or be coy about the extent, or the fact that bits and pieces of been leaked for years, many times appearing on slashdot. We can pretend that he hasn't been the victim of a massive character attack against him.

The fact that you think they take a huge interest in what an average person has to say scares me more than the fact that they bother to go over everything they can get their hands on. Also realize some (a.k.a. most) don't live in the US, and we actually think about who we vote on.

Guess what, the world is full of jerks. Studies conclude that rude people are more honest. I don't find Stallman paranoid one bit, most of his "paranoia" over the years has been proven justified.

I think the real issue is you simply don't like what he has to say.

Actually I do not like what he has to say, he instantly kills any possibility of cooperation with his behaviour. His "no binary drivers" thing pretty much stops proper hardware support in its tracks.

my reaction has been just the opposite, drivers for all but the most obscure devices simply load themselves with no interaction. Except the full performance video card drivers. Thats as easy as installing a package and restarting.

Assuming you'll get more than a black screen on reboot.

I've always had driver hell on windows. Half the devices don't show on install, god help you if the ethernet driver doesn't work, and you can't find the install disk. Then you get to the 50,000 diffrent versions of the driver, the buggy piece of shit that comes with windows, or is it driver on the manufactures website which is poorly translated from cantoneese, into mandarin, into russian, into english, that took you 3 hours of searching to find because the company either merged, went out of business, or obsoleted the driver.

Funny you should say that, it took me about 10 minutes to find and download the windows drivers for everything in my latest computer. It took me about 10 hours to get an acceptable performance out of my Intel WiFi chipset on Linux though. And I sort of gave up in the end and use a cable these days. So yes, if somebody who has written drivers for heavily customized embedded systems can't get it to work in a reasonable timespan, then there might be a minor issue with the drivers and operating system. ;)

Also, drivers don't have configuration files in linux, they are kernel modules, most of them come with the kernel and are located in /usr/lib/modules/, and linux/udev simply loads them when it detects them, occationally you need to modprobe them and list them in a plain text file in /etc/modules-load.d

Yes, because it totally doesn't store the parameters in a series of shell scripts that are executed at boot. *cough*

Anyways, point still stands. I'd rather have people like Stallman than people like you. There are many reasons to be concerned about privacy, and its been proven that closed modules like DRM, and various phone home utilies exist, track users, and many times leave personal data out in the open, or on company servers, where identity theft is one of the fastest growing, hardest to catch crimes there is right now. We have a hostile government that doesn't give a shit, because they use the same methods to spy on is, and it makes it easy.

We don't need people who don't take Freedom, openess, security and saftey seriously. We also don't need people who are quick to make political compromises to fit in with powerful people, at the expense of the general populace.

I should point out I stopped reading at "hostile government". Guess what, you determine who's in the government. Its your own damned fault, get your head out of your ass and do something about it in the voting booth next time.

We don't need "year of the Linux desktop". It does not benefit either GNU or Linux, we simply do not need it. It would be nice sure, but its simply not essential. More important is taking a stand and explaining to the rest of society why we do, rather than what.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49104345) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System

majority share, trend is going towards linux. All the big companies run linux webservers, exception of netflix for FreeBSD.

If I got a penny for everytime I run into windows systems... Even saw a few very very old netware servers recently. Anyway people make the incorrect assumption "servers" equals "web servers" sadly, and then indeed linux has the majority market share. But a lot of software used in an industrial setting simply does not work on Linux/BSD/..., or turn-key systems are bought which quite often run Windows. Or god-forbid: HP-UX, though that one is actually fairly nice if you have some time to sit down with it.

[citation please]

Yes, because things like Cray Linux with customized micro kernels don't exist... Its not because they say "oh hey it uses ... linux" in the top 500 list that it's a standard build. It'd be like claiming that China's latest super computer runs Ubuntu. It might be based on it, but you can be pretty damn sure it was optimized. You don't make a multi-million investment to then squander it away with inefficient resource usage.

nope actually. all the android kernel patches have been mainlined since 3.4. What you mean is that they don't run the GNU userland, but instead their own userland based on BIONIC C lib, and their own custom version of java. I trust you understand the diffrence between kernel and userspace. It becomes more aparant when you run custom roms.

Keep on dreaming. If you were to run a fully unoptimized kernel on a phone you'd drain the battery in less than 2 hours most likely. (Please note: I do not consider compiler conditionals the same code. because you could really just put two complete different versions in there and switch between them with conditional constructs) People seem to forget how big of a deal scheduling and power management is on mobile devices. The battery capacity hasn't increased that much over the past years, the power management on the other hand has made huge steps forward.

if you're using ubuntu or mint it does, simply slip the install disk and bam.

You wish.

Comment: Re:Hmm, maybe (Score 1) 213

by solidraven (#49101119) Attached to: Sony Offers a "Premium Sound" SD Card For a Premium Price
We should totally crash that market, I'm going to make a super conducting cable that needs a tank of liquid nitrogen, then I'm also going to sell a tank with better audio characteristics that are achieved by lining the outside with a shiny coating and putting a "Premium Sound" label on it.

Comment: Re:Hmm, maybe (Score 1) 213

by solidraven (#49101093) Attached to: Sony Offers a "Premium Sound" SD Card For a Premium Price
Yes, because you can totally hear that outside of audio range noise that comes with rapid digital communications.And don't start with "but sharp transitions", learn how to use a spectrum analyser and Fourier analyser. The later will most likely be useless since it won't go that high. And most switch-mode power supplies used in audio applications operate at fairly high frequencies these days. (Way outside of the audible range, think 50 - 900 kHz.) Get a damned book and learn something about EMI/EMC before you go and spread around audiophile crap.

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49076725) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System
Stop going on a crusade against binary drivers then. Not a single manufacturer will show their internal hardware architecture and throw it online without being absolutely sure a competitor won't be able to use it in their reverse engineering attempts.And if you have the driver code you can usually already start figuring things out, so yes its a major issue.

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49076645) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System
Funny you should say that, I've talked to somebody who plays a substantial part in the Debian Linux project recently and he didn't seem to hate systemd at all, in fact he said something along the lines of "finally that damned script mess is on its way out". So before you say "Debian developers" I'd love to hear some names...

Comment: Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755

by solidraven (#49062277) Attached to: Removing Libsystemd0 From a Live-running Debian System
Then you got lucky, statistically speaking Linux has a very crappy track record. And I've installed Linux on a lot of different hardware over the years. Always there is one thing that hangs up unless you buy specific hardware and have some luck finding configuration files of somebody else.

Weird eh, worst case scenario I download the driver from the manufacturer website and install it. And that generally does the trick on Windows, no configuration and digging through files required. Though I suppose this is something which could actually be fixed by systemd.

Saying Windows 8 sucks fell out of fashion ages ago, especially since 8.1 came around.

Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.