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Comment Re:I don't like this at all (Score 1) 176

The story I read earlier this morning quoted someone or other as saying that customers currently in a contract won't see a change until the contract is up. If they renew, it will be at the new price.

That's wrong, because nobody with an unlimited plan has a contract any more...they are all month-to-month, as their contracts have expired.

If you had an unlimited plan and wanted to do something that forced you into a contract (subsidized phone, etc.), then you were told that you had to sign up for a new plan. For a while now, Verizon doesn't have an phone subsidies, so people with unlimited who stuck it out this long now had no incentive to switch off the plan...they would pay full price for any new device. So, Verizon is raising their rates to try to convince them to switch. It's not very nice, but it is unfortunately legal.

Except for the millions of people who've been upgrading their phones every 18-24 months and reupping their contract end date while keeping their original pricing plan and data allotment.

Comment Re:I don't like this at all (Score 1) 176

>All things get more expensive over time... It called inflation.

Data should be getting cheaper, not more expensive. Infrastructure costs big money upfront, less money when the investment's been recoup'd.

Also, gasoline used to be $4/gallon. Now it's cheaper. Your whole statement is just wrong.

YOU are the idiot.

Umm. Didn't gasoline also used to NOT be $4/gallon? I'm not all that old, but remember it being 89 cents a gallon. Also, there are a few external influences that affect gas prices.

Comment Re:I don't like this at all (Score 1) 176

Because Verizon got rid of unlimited data plans, and then coaxed people into staying with Verizon by assuring them they'd be grandfathered in on their current plans - only to jack the prices way up later.

It's a breach of trust and it rightly should send people fleeing to other carriers.

So you are grandfathered. Forever. They can never raise rates? Ever? I don't see why that has to be true. Consider the last four years a parting gift from Verizon then... but seriously... people raise rates all the time. Some do it in the middle of a contract (Satellite TV I'm looking at you).

Comment Re:So it's not unlimited, then... (Score 1) 346

All the buffets I know of advertise all you can EAT, and you don't need to sign anything (unless you pay by check or credit) because you agree to that contract once you pay and start eating. Stuffing food in your pockets is therefore a violation of that contract. Using T-Mobile's unlimited data on the other hand is NOT a violation of contract, because each party has a different idea of what is fair and reasonable which was not clearly established in the written contract. So your analogy doesn't hold.

You're also missing the actual customer base they're going after. It's people employing workarounds to get around tether caps. T-Mobile unlimited plans specifically have limited tethering, in various small denominations of gigabytes per month. IE: Unlimited phone usage, limited tethering usage of non-phone devices. So in this case, it is pretty well established in the paperwork you signed. For example, I get unlimited data and 5gb tethering on my "contract".

Whether or not they can detect people bypassing tethering restrictions by using third party software is another story altogether. But I suspect there are ways.

Comment Re:So it's not unlimited, then... (Score 1) 346

Suppose I need non-stop max cellular bandwidth for a scientific application, and I'm willing to pay my fair share of the cellular network cost for it, then what is the name of the cellular plan that I need to purchase?

I have totally different rules on my company provided mobile hotspot device then I did when I owned one for personal use. I'd start by talking to a business rep and looking into business plans. I work out of a home office, and use consumer Internet but business mobile. If I needed terabytes of connectivity for the broadband side, I'd probably be on a business plan there as well.

Comment Re:So it's not unlimited, then... (Score 2) 346

Nope. The contract doesn't forbid tethering. They charge extra (about $5 or $10 depending which unlimited plan you are starting from) for tethering. They are taking about the vague 'don't abuse / use to much your unlimited data' clauses in the contracts. Of course, these are the same people that will insist you must pay extra for rhapsody service if you want pandora radio to work, even though your contract & current plan already explicitly states music services are included and don't count towards any bandwidth/usage requirements.

We aren't paying for Rhapsody and get unlimited streaming music on T-Mobile. And I don't think you "pay" for Rhapsody anyway. It's just bundled in at their highest "unlimited" tier.

I also didn't read the fine print on said unlimited data, but intrinsically understood that there were going to be some fair limits. And incidentally, I think curtailing 3,000 out of millions of subscribers, and especially anyone using terabytes of data (that's more than my home broadband allows me to use) is included in what I assume to be a fair limit.

You don't sign an agreement to eat in a buffet, but there's an understanding that if you start stuffing chicken wings in your pockets you might be thrown out.

Comment Re:Free WiFi is a trap, news at 11! (Score 1) 187

But I pay for AT&T service and as part of that service they claim access to free wi-fi hotspots of theirs. I think this means that I PAY for these hotspots. So having advertisements in a paid service is obscene (well, more obscene than general purpose advertising). They don't need this side income from their paying customers.

Yeah. Like their ad-free U-verse service. Oh no... wait. Look, advertising isn't the problem. A pre-roll add, or whatever wouldn't be offensive (just annoying). But injecting code into other people's sites. Yeah... not good.

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